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Cancer (treatment) is (probably) a HOAX.

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posted on May, 20 2015 @ 03:40 AM
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Cancer is a HOAX. So as many other things. The search for the cure for cancer conducted by the so called mainstream scientific research is a scam. Cancer has always been curable by many methods. Chemotherapy is a legalize experimentation/use of hazardous chemicals/radiation on the human body. Most cancer patients die due to the effects of the therapy rather than from the cancer itself.
www.youtube.com...

I would like to hear expert/not so expert opinion from ATS members (sponsored or not) after watching the entire video of course (1.5 to 2x speed if in a hurry). But I expect forum slide or attacks.

Most people who spends really a lot of time on this site are most likely sponsored by "The Party" (1984 - George Orwell). Maybe "The Party" even created this site (if you know what I mean).

Who controls the present controls the past, who controls the past controls the future - 1984 (George Orwell). The story of this book is quite real really.

Don't spend too much time on this site, go find the truth yourself.
edit on 20-5-2015 by SkepticOverlord because: Modified the thread title because the thread author admitted it was a click-bait catch-phrase.




posted on May, 20 2015 @ 03:46 AM
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a reply to: 123123

One hour 48 minutes , a bit long don't you think to be demanding those who wish to reply to watch .



posted on May, 20 2015 @ 03:54 AM
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You needn't be so accusatory, I'm a long time member (2004) and when I read "The Party" I think Rave club.

Two hours is a long time but I understand the gist. Without googling on my IPad, from memory, there was this cancer doctors wife who got cancer. She didn't want to do chemo and chose not to against her husbands wishes. She moved to Mexico to receive holistic treatment and is now cancer free. The story was written by the doctor himself. Great read is you feel like looking it up, it was reported in a few mainstream articles a few years back.

Here you go:

ABC News
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posted on May, 20 2015 @ 03:56 AM
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a reply to: 123123

It's a bit short to claim cancer is a hoax.

First there is not one cancer but plenty of different kinds of cancer.

Secondly, if cancer is not real, what are the tumors that can be extracted from some cancer patient that never got any treatment?



Medicine never claimed chemotherapy or rays are the only way to treat cancer. Actually the human body is perfectly capable of repairing most cellular mutations. Most.
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posted on May, 20 2015 @ 03:57 AM
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a reply to: 123123

Lol, you must watch a 2 hour video before responding....

Most on this site are part of the "party"?

Cancer is real, my cousin survived it as a child, I physically saw the swelling in his lymph nodes.

Which is where he had it.

This form of cancer is highly lethal.

Reiley children's hospital in Indianapolis saved his life!!!



posted on May, 20 2015 @ 03:58 AM
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originally posted by: 123123
Most people who spends really a lot of time on this site are most likely sponsored by "The Party" (1984 - George Orwell). Maybe "The Party" even created this site (if you know what I mean).


You ask us to watch the video, then comment. Fine.

Then basically say "oh by the way I think a lot of you are shills".

Am I understanding this correctly?

On the topic of 1984. How do I know you aren't making this thread to lure us into a false sense of security and ultimately a big brother trap? Much like O'Brien does to Winston? (ok this last question was sarcasm)



posted on May, 20 2015 @ 04:01 AM
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Lol OP already left the thread without even responding.

Probably just some trolling and baiting. Especially since OP accuses the whole forum of being part of a conspiracy.


OP don't drink the kool aid please!



posted on May, 20 2015 @ 04:02 AM
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originally posted by: JUhrman
Lol OP already left the thread without even responding.

Probably just some trolling and baiting. Especially since OP accuses the whole forum of being part of a conspiracy.


OP don't drink the kool aid please!


Mybe he decided to watch it himself?



posted on May, 20 2015 @ 04:03 AM
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originally posted by: JUhrman
Lol OP already left the thread without even responding.

Probably just some trolling and baiting. Especially since OP accuses the whole forum of being part of a conspiracy.


OP don't drink the kool aid please!


Wait, I'm the only "party" member here?

That is bs!!!

They promised me punch and pie......

"I want my punch and pie"!!!!!!!



posted on May, 20 2015 @ 04:04 AM
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originally posted by: 123123
Most cancer patients die due to the effects of the therapy rather than from the cancer itself.


Then explain me why the company I work for develops cancer therapy with zero side effects? And how it can save children's life without them having to take any drug?

I'm really interesting in how this fits into your cancer conspiracy?



posted on May, 20 2015 @ 04:04 AM
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a reply to: 123123




But I expect forum slide or attacks.


Hmmm perhaps the dreams and predictions thread .



posted on May, 20 2015 @ 04:04 AM
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originally posted by: Rosinitiate

originally posted by: JUhrman
Lol OP already left the thread without even responding.

Probably just some trolling and baiting. Especially since OP accuses the whole forum of being part of a conspiracy.


OP don't drink the kool aid please!


Mybe he decided to watch it himself?


Lol!!!


I'm going back to drooling over the steak thread, have fun at the party!!



posted on May, 20 2015 @ 04:07 AM
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Cancer is very real, and I have no doubt it kills just by the way it works.

What I do doubt though is a majority of what "experts" claim are the causes.

Since the 1940's there has been a surge in cancer rates, oddly enough around the same time we began testing atomic weapons. If they admitted that was a big cause though, I would imagine it would lead to several large lawsuits.

Modern lifestyles probably don't help either.



posted on May, 20 2015 @ 04:10 AM
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originally posted by: woogleuk
Since the 1940's there has been a surge in cancer rates


Correlated to the increasing development of the chemical industry.

The cause of cancer is always a cellular mutation. The factors of cancer can thus be anything increasing the chance of mutation (chemicals, radiation, sun, smoke, ageing, psychological trauma?...). These are all factors, but the cause is always mutation of the DNA.



originally posted by: woogleuk
If they admitted that was a big cause though, I would imagine it would lead to several large lawsuits.


There are actually a few lawsuits when the factor and correlation has been proved. For example with asbestos or chemical industry accidents.

Regarding the nuclear tests it's doubtful it's a cause worldwide though. Radiation is a factor causing mutation, but we know the science behind it and can calculate the doses received by the population. You get infinitely more radiation from natural radioactivity, taking a plane or getting x-rays than because of nuclear tests. Unless you were next to them of course
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posted on May, 20 2015 @ 04:15 AM
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a reply to: 123123
I would not go as far as to say cancer is a hoax, but for sure, commercial medicine is one. I did not say modern medicine but commercial medicine.

I little question for you: How can you explain that ancient Inuits were practically cancer free?

A clue: No it was not pollution related.

Clue #2: Have something to do with my avatar picture.



posted on May, 20 2015 @ 04:16 AM
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Well, since the OP didn't tell you ... here it is: Quackery or IOW Burzynski has made some extraordinary claims without presenting extraordinary evidence ... or any evidence (actually). Sorry to burst the bubble.

The fact is cancer is some very scary shizzle.

People can literally get away with murder trying to cure it. Translation: Doctors violating their Hippocratic Oath aren't punished for harming their patients who are likely to die from an illness they're afflicted with.



posted on May, 20 2015 @ 04:20 AM
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was it really sarcasm? I think you may have a point. lol I didn't even think of that


And yeah, I agree that cancer cannot be a 'hoax' since there is physical proof and plenty of it. My mom has breast cancer and has just finished that horrible A/C chemo and is about to start radiation. And okay, chemo is OBVIOUSLY just poison. But the thing is, it's SO TOXIC that it KILLS THE CANCER CELLS that may have been left after treatment--cells that COULD HAVE OTHERWISE METASTASIZED.

I'm not saying chemo is the only way (and honestly i don't get the whole radiation thing because like so what it's a bunch of energy. as long as you let it filter in and then out of your body and don't just keep it all up in there then chances are you'll be okay--though i'm way more skeptical about that over chemo with regards to usefulness.) because I know for a fact THC can help cancer.

You know what else 'cures' cancer? Anorexia nervosa, apparently. Yeah get this: due to the timing with the weightloss etc, it looks like that disrupts the estrogen etc. and actually makes it so one is like very very very unlikely to get (breast) cancer. And that can go for other ones too--since tumors NEED food/calories to survive and thrive.

Honestly, I think cancer probably has a spiritual cure--while there are 'cures' for cancer there is no way to guarantee it will never come back. That, I believe, signals that cancer may just have roots in something spiritual--things Jesus said comes to mind.

But yeah, cancer exists. Just like colds, and the flu, and broken bones, and cavities.

Saying that cancer isn't real is like devaluing millions of peoples' REAL experiences with cancer. And yes--cancer has existed forever (though perhaps not in the quantity that we see, today). In fact, I recently read about some anthropologist or archaeologist finding mummies in Egypt that had had CANCER.

So unless your video talks about that and refutes all of what I just said (which like...I'm not saying anything foreign or surprising or new--and while much is absolute fact, obviously I included my personal opinion/theory as well (which needs not be debunked as it is simply my opinion that has literally no basis in fact and is just something I thought of when going 'what if?' lol)--so unless that long, dry-looking video is able to address all of what I brought up--along with the vast amount of points that I did not bring up--then I don't see why you'd think that I should waste my time.

And no, I'm not at a party,
(jk. Orwell was pretty good. I like Huxley as well) I'm at home in my bedroom and I'm 23 and a girl and I still live with my parents. So yeah. No. The likelihood of the 'Party' being a member who would comment here (not to mention, like...what would the point of being a member be when you have quantum computers and all of this is public anyway--AND not to mention: are you the one who filmed this movie? If not, I don't think you have anything to worry about. Because if that video maker is okay then you most certainly will be as well.) lol

it's good to be a conspiracy theorist--i too wear my tinfoil hat like a crown--but paranoia doesn't look good on anyone.

Not to mention (not to mention I've used that phrase like 10 times here already
) why does it matter if people agree with you or not? Nobody is going to attack you for your opinion--but I at least definitely think that you need to do more research or maybe talk to someone with cancer or something.

Based on your OP (without watching the video that you yourself did not make) you sound like you're jumping to conclusions and throwing *bleep* at the wall, seeing if it will stick.

Crude way of saying it but yeah hope it gets the point across.
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posted on May, 20 2015 @ 04:22 AM
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originally posted by: 123123
Cancer is a HOAX. So as many other things. The search for the cure for cancer conducted by the so called mainstream scientific research is a scam. Cancer has always been curable by many methods. Chemotherapy is a legalize experimentation/use of hazardous chemicals/radiation on the human body. Most cancer patients die due to the effects of the therapy rather than from the cancer itself
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I don't get what you mean. Cancer is a hoax, yet... the search for the cure for cancer conducted by the so called mainstream scientific research is a scam. Cancer has always been curable by many methods. Chemotherapy is a legalize experimentation/use of hazardous chemicals/radiation on the human body. Most cancer patients die due to the effects of the therapy rather than from the cancer itself

Do you mean the treatment for cancer is a hoax? Cancer is very real.

(Or do I need to watch the nearly 2 hour video to understand what you mean?)



posted on May, 20 2015 @ 04:23 AM
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a reply to: JUhrman

When I said nuclear testing, I also had industrial accidents like Windscale and Chernobyl in mind, my bad for not mentioning it.

After the Windscale fire in 1957 leukemia rates in Seascale and other surrounding areas went through the roof.

As for Chernobyl, they say that there are still traces of radiation up the fells here in Cumbria from that alone...how true that is though is another matter.

But I do agree that chemicals play a large part, especially those going in to our food and water.



posted on May, 20 2015 @ 04:24 AM
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originally posted by: rukia
honestly i don't get the whole radiation thing because like so what it's a bunch of energy.


Ionizing radiation destroys some of the cells in its path depending on their type. Some types of cancers respond well to radiation therapy, others not so much.



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