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overreacting much? ketsuko was basically praying for you right there and you spit in her face. you dont believe in her god or worship him. okay, fair enough. but thats no reason to take her positive intentions and good will and act as they are an insult because clearly thats not how she intended it.
maybe you should take a breather dear.
If this is not spirituality then what is?
Everybody has his own method of raising consciousness, finding their purpose and bettering themselves like, religion, science, arts, history, sex, intense living etc.
But everything that touches our ''soul'' , can be a spiritual thing.
I don't see the need to believe in a soul to believe in a God. God could exist without us having souls.
“No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day. It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me. No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father. Very truly I tell you, the one who believes has eternal life.
originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
*thinks up response*.....
You seem to be in a defensive/condescending and/or adversial mood. Am I reading your post correctly?
originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
Very, very possible that I am not.
Just thought I'd ask - to clarify.
You believe or you don't... and you only will believe if God has invited you to be among the believers.
originally posted by: pthena
I don't feel confident trying to use particle physics models. Simple biology is easier for me to use as a model.
Wow. I am having a difficult time with this part of your post because although warminindy and I often don't see eye to eye on various matters, I certainly have never seen him/her preaching hate. When we have exchanged views, s/he has always been very considerate and well-informed and responsive.
What am I missing here?
originally posted by: Thought Provoker
So what it boils down to is, if you want to believe that Jesus Christ died to save you from Hell, you're probably already saved, or you will be once you formally ask Jesus to include you in the after-party. If that doesn't work either, then for some reason that neither you nor I could guess at, you aren't considered worthy, and all your wishing that you did believe will come to naught. And if you want to believe that there is no God and no Jesus and no Hell at all, you'll take that belief to your grave... but not beyond it. Everyone will find out the real truth; eventually everyone will believe. But for some it will come too late to help them. If you're worthy, you'll be invited to believe. Otherwise not, and no amount of talking will make you believe. All those who end up believing will have eternal life, so God wants to make sure only worthy people gain that benefit. Everyone else goes down the shaft into the incinerator.
If you want to believe, if you can believe, you'd better inquire within your heart about it soon, because there's almost no time left. If you can't or don't want to believe, and never change from that non-belief, then... I hope you had a nice life, because the other 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of your eternal existence won't be nice at all. Sorry. But if you don't believe me, that statement shouldn't annoy you. Just say "Yeah, right!" and carry on. If it makes you feel hatred toward me, well... now you know why you aren't allowed to believe. Don't shoot the messenger.