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originally posted by: ugmold
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: MarioOnTheFly
I think foreknowledge is an understatement…the only one that didn't know anything was up...was poor old Georgy boy.
The hell… he split town early that day, 'visiting' a classroom filled with little children. And there he sat, even as it was occurring.
And he has said publicly twice that he saw the 1st plane hit the North Tower (1st Tower hit) live on TV, nobody did and if they did they had to know it was going to happen.
Start at 27 seconds to avoid the suck up.
A new book by James Rickards, 'The Death of Money' (read: 'Death of Bankers'), opens with a timeline starting three days before the 9/11 attacks on the Twin Towers and describes them from a first-person account from inside the CIA, which was monitoring trading on airline stocks (specifically 'put options'), from traders who were profiting from the 9/11 disaster.
Both Rickards and I agree that judging by the price action and volume in the options market ahead of the 9/11 attacks, it was clear we were witnessing insider trading. I was one of the biggest producing option brokers when I worked on Wall Street, keep in mind, so I am very familiar with that market. The put options before the disaster were trading like you would expect them to do after a disaster, not before. It was very obvious that advanced knowledge of the attacks was circulating amongst traders. The options market was in fact screaming insider trading, and brokers and bankers were talking about it in the days leading up to the attacks.
To highlight just one obvious point missing in his narrative: millions of dollars worth of profits from 9/11 insider trading still sit uncollected in an Alex Brown account (now owned by Deutsche Bank) in Baltimore, just down the road from the CIA's HQ at Langley.
originally posted by: Jchristopher5
a reply to: Merinda
It is apparently a fact that a good portion of the "puts", guaranteed to make big money in the wake of 9/11, were never cashed in.
originally posted by: SonOfTheLawOfOne
originally posted by: ugmold
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: MarioOnTheFly
I think foreknowledge is an understatement…the only one that didn't know anything was up...was poor old Georgy boy.
The hell… he split town early that day, 'visiting' a classroom filled with little children. And there he sat, even as it was occurring.
And he has said publicly twice that he saw the 1st plane hit the North Tower (1st Tower hit) live on TV, nobody did and if they did they had to know it was going to happen.
Start at 27 seconds to avoid the suck up.
I watched the first tower get hit on live TV, and I'm sure millions of other people who were watching the same news broadcast at that time saw it too, and had no idea what was about to happen.
I can't remember which news station it was (might have been NBC or Fox at the time), but I definitely recall they were broadcasting from the top of a building looking out over the city with the towers in the background, and you could see the plane coming in and strike the first tower while they were in mid-sentence. The broadcasters turned around in their chairs and started trying to figure out if a small plane hit the tower, and that's when everything started.
I will NEVER forget the events of that day... where I was, what I was doing, what I was watching on TV as it happened, and what followed. I wouldn't say I'm lucky to have watched both planes hit the towers on live TV, but I can unequivocally argue your point that "nobody did".
~Namaste
originally posted by: ugmold
originally posted by: SonOfTheLawOfOne
originally posted by: ugmold
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: MarioOnTheFly
I think foreknowledge is an understatement…the only one that didn't know anything was up...was poor old Georgy boy.
The hell… he split town early that day, 'visiting' a classroom filled with little children. And there he sat, even as it was occurring.
And he has said publicly twice that he saw the 1st plane hit the North Tower (1st Tower hit) live on TV, nobody did and if they did they had to know it was going to happen.
Start at 27 seconds to avoid the suck up.
I watched the first tower get hit on live TV, and I'm sure millions of other people who were watching the same news broadcast at that time saw it too, and had no idea what was about to happen.
I can't remember which news station it was (might have been NBC or Fox at the time), but I definitely recall they were broadcasting from the top of a building looking out over the city with the towers in the background, and you could see the plane coming in and strike the first tower while they were in mid-sentence. The broadcasters turned around in their chairs and started trying to figure out if a small plane hit the tower, and that's when everything started.
I will NEVER forget the events of that day... where I was, what I was doing, what I was watching on TV as it happened, and what followed. I wouldn't say I'm lucky to have watched both planes hit the towers on live TV, but I can unequivocally argue your point that "nobody did".
~Namaste
Please show me that footage.
The Nadet Brothers which was the first footage, didn't even come to light till 19 hours after the plane hit. as far as I know.
originally posted by: jimmyx
originally posted by: Jchristopher5
a reply to: Merinda
It is apparently a fact that a good portion of the "puts", guaranteed to make big money in the wake of 9/11, were never cashed in.
sorry, but that doesn't cut it....why do I say that?....I daytraded for a couple of years, and you have to establish an account with money already in it, and you are assigned an account number. your personal information HAS TO BE listed due to the various governments financial laws, BEFORE you execute ANY trade...it doesn't matter if you instituted a "put", it's the same as a "Call", you have to already have money in an account with the owner of that accounts personal information......in other words, whoever initially instituted that "put" is responsible...regardless of them "cashing it in"...it's, all from/or goes to, the same account.
By the way whatever happened to the investigation of insider trading in the wake of 911? Did it go forward, were results publish? Were results suppressed? Did investigators complain about obstruction of their work?
originally posted by: Merinda
originally posted by: Jchristopher5
a reply to: Merinda
It is apparently a fact that a good portion of the "puts", guaranteed to make big money in the wake of 9/11, were never cashed in.
Why would somebody not claim his ill gotten gains. Only reason I can think of, is that somebody connected to the perps placed the puts rather than the perps themselves.
The perps got wind of it
and sternly warned their associate to cash in on the puts he placed livid he did so in the first place. If there was an significant uptick in volume, but in the end the gains to be made were just a couple of measily millions, then I think what I theorize was the case (insider trading by people connected to the perps, but not the perps themselves somebody further down the totem pole).
Or the person in question was just denied execution of his puts electronically. At any rate just by placing the puts it can be traced who placed them. Of course the person in question might have used surrogates for obvious reasons.
originally posted by: jimmyx
originally posted by: Jchristopher5
a reply to: Merinda
It is apparently a fact that a good portion of the "puts", guaranteed to make big money in the wake of 9/11, were never cashed in.
sorry, but that doesn't cut it....why do I say that?....I daytraded for a couple of years, and you have to establish an account with money already in it, and you are assigned an account number. your personal information HAS TO BE listed due to the various governments financial laws, BEFORE you execute ANY trade...it doesn't matter if you instituted a "put", it's the same as a "Call", you have to already have money in an account with the owner of that accounts personal information......in other words, whoever initially instituted that "put" is responsible...regardless of them "cashing it in"...it's, all from/or goes to, the same account.
originally posted by: wasaka
a reply to: Merinda
Max Keiser, the host of RT's ‘Keiser Report,’ is a former stockbroker,
and he tells the story of "suicide bankers" before and after 9/11.
He is the source of the story about "put-options" being placed by
people in the World Trade Center who latter died--suicide bankers.
Keiser writes:
A new book by James Rickards, 'The Death of Money' (read: 'Death of Bankers'), opens with a timeline starting three days before the 9/11 attacks on the Twin Towers and describes them from a first-person account from inside the CIA, which was monitoring trading on airline stocks (specifically 'put options'), from traders who were profiting from the 9/11 disaster.
Both Rickards and I agree that judging by the price action and volume in the options market ahead of the 9/11 attacks, it was clear we were witnessing insider trading. I was one of the biggest producing option brokers when I worked on Wall Street, keep in mind, so I am very familiar with that market. The put options before the disaster were trading like you would expect them to do after a disaster, not before. It was very obvious that advanced knowledge of the attacks was circulating amongst traders. The options market was in fact screaming insider trading, and brokers and bankers were talking about it in the days leading up to the attacks.
To highlight just one obvious point missing in his narrative: millions of dollars worth of profits from 9/11 insider trading still sit uncollected in an Alex Brown account (now owned by Deutsche Bank) in Baltimore, just down the road from the CIA's HQ at Langley.