a reply to: JimOberg
I was not addressing "subconscious" attitudes nor a "inevitable" fog related to observing and analyzing the unexplained cases.
I truly believe that those conclusions and my own assertion speak for themselves. But we can lift it a little and see what may be underneath (even
without touching on a very important aspect of this, which is the actual number of anomalous cases - a bit higher than some conveniently consider).
While science is constantly evolving and explanations of phenomena are subject to change, while the territory of the object of study of science is
also subject to change (most notably, enlargement), I am of the opinion that the anomalous ufo cases will NOT be explained as natural phenomena
(common, rare or odd) - ever - given how stable our knowledge of some of the pillars of the universe is.
We're left with the obvious candidates for explaining those anomalous cases.
a) UFO's are of human origin
b) UFO's are NOT of human origin
If we are dealing with anomalies caused by Man, then we must take into account the following:
1. Some of the anomalous cases date back to the mid-1930's. [Those who are willing to learn and understand what I am referring to should dive into
documented cases in countries such as Spain and Portugal. I am aware, however, that similar cases have been discovered in other countries. But these
two countries alone raise questions that till today baffle those that look into them.]
2. The capabilities of the unidentified objects far surpass anything human beings had developed, particularly in the 30's, 40's and 50's.
The above has serious implications. What are we dealing here, with an unbelievably advanced branch of the German, US and Soviet (keep in mind the
decades I mention above) military? If so, the obvious questions:
1- why did the Third Reich lose the war, when they could have dealt a deadly blow at the heart of the US, UK or the USSR?
2- why then use the atom bomb? Why allow millions to die due to attrition war, carpet bombings, atomic bombings and in concentration camps?
3- why didn't the Soviets strike at the US if indeed they possessed such technology? Was the threat of mutual nuclear annihilation enough? Somehow, I
4- why go the moon (boldly, no doubt) in such a fragile manner and with absurdly low computational power (by today's standards)? Why haven't we gone
more frequently, permanently, to the Moon and beyond?
5- Who funds these "advanced" branches of the military? Where's the money? Where is the supervision, where are the oversight committees?
6- MOST importantly: why not use such technologies to save lives instead?
If we are dealing with something caused by non-human entities
, the consequences will have tremendous (revolutionary?) weight on human
societies due to the questions raised in regards to security, religious beliefs and science itself.
Plus, and most importantly, we, The People (all over the planet) will know governments, elected by us, using our money, have been hiding something of
significant impact (perhaps with further consequences due to keeping off-limits technology that might have saved millions affected by health problems
and natural disasters).
Either way, of human origins or otherwise, we have a Pandora's Box in front of us and we must deal with it.
Finally, what I wasn't referring to with my previous posts:
no, I would not subconsciously ASSUME anything. Subconsciously "assuming" things is the mark of bad science and bad data analysis. We may have a
theory that seemingly explains some phenomenon quite well; if an anomaly is found and the theory is unable to explain it, we either modify it or we
No "subconscious assumptions" are needed in science and for men and women with real intellectual honesty.
Everyday life demonstrates to us that the existence of a residue -- I use the term deliberately and non-prejudicially -- of 'unexplainED' events
cannot alone be reasonably used to demand the existence of a fundamentally non-explainABLE stimulus.
On the contrary, you shouldn't use
the "fog-factor of of all human-related activities" to demand the dismissal of unexplained events
What you can effectively dismiss as "human-factor" is already part of the explainED-part of the "ufo anomalies". Whatever persists as fundamentally
non-explainable should demand a more rigorous, truly scientific attitude than simply dismiss events/data as being as "human related"
What's more, the real interesting thing you passed over
is what I mentioned as the basis for my own conclusions.
I was not talking about folk tales or some "excited eye-witness" accounts, or the pseudo-investigations led by a certain sector of "ufologists" or
the ramblings of authors whose livelihood depends on the fantastic hypothesis delivered on their books.
NO, I was/am talking about actual research with scientific methods, diligent and accurate, long enough to observe, collect and analyze a significant
number of "anomalies", done by military and scientists in different countries.
edit on 22-5-2015 by TheChronus because: missing spaces