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Ramadi has fallen to ISIS

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posted on May, 17 2015 @ 08:24 PM
a reply to: TechniXcality

I agree if you got to war,then go to war, no half assed rules of engagement,no police actions- as for these ISIS people they dont follow the Geneva convention so use all the cards on the table napalm,white phosphorous,cluster bombs,AC 130's A101a's the works.Dont get me wrong I abhor violence but I am also a student of history in 1923 the Nazis were just a bunch of punks and in the early 1960's Pol Pot's crew were nobodies.We pussy around with these people at our peril.

posted on May, 17 2015 @ 08:32 PM
a reply to: TechniXcality

You are smart enough to realize there is a reason it isn't (firestormed), right?

Former military like me?

You are stating facts that are shelved and known.

posted on May, 17 2015 @ 08:34 PM

originally posted by: Rosinitiate

originally posted by: khnum
Just in on the BBC Ramadi population est 700,000 110km from Bagdhad has fallen.

Than my heart goes out to the homosexuals there.

My heart goes out to all who remain there. I imagine nearly everybody would find living under IS to be a terrible thing.

posted on May, 17 2015 @ 08:38 PM

originally posted by: St Udio
this taking of Ramadi is just a day-or-two after the caliph Ibrahim (al Baghdadi) made it perfectly clear that; Islam is not a peaceful religion---Islam is a religion of fighters

exactly opposite of what Barrack Obama mandates the USA policy to be, concerning the non-radical/non-terrorist Muslims of ISIS = ISIL (the caliphate)

DON'T BELIEVE ME ---- heres a link to a MSM source =

Sure. Take the word of a terrorist leader over that of a myriad of Islamic scholars, Imams and other subscribers to the religion.

posted on May, 17 2015 @ 08:51 PM
a reply to: khnum

I love it when I see someone knowing history and is trying not to repeat it again .

posted on May, 17 2015 @ 08:59 PM
and as usual the whitehouse plays it down

posted on May, 17 2015 @ 09:01 PM

originally posted by: Willtell
Some news in the wake of that supposed delta mission the other day.

Perhaps they should have been in Ramadi

Obama’s silly war of pinprick strikes as people die

have you heard that schulz guy from the whitehouse

everything he says he downplays it

posted on May, 17 2015 @ 09:13 PM

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: khnum

Ill say it again for good measure, We need to stop playing games ...the,conquered have assimilated ...they are....

now ISIS supporters, therefore the enemies of all of us. (I finished for you)

Whoever does not die and does not run, does so because they have sworn fealty to ISIS. Therefore, they are enemies of us all.

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posted on May, 17 2015 @ 09:20 PM
a reply to: OpinionatedB

I agree, and yes i am former military 11bravo! the conquered if they were not to be casualty should have fought to there death. they didn't therefor the truth is a painful but real one

posted on May, 17 2015 @ 09:23 PM
a reply to: TechniXcality

There is an ahadith, they should know it. It states, if you are in a haram gathering and the judgment comes then you will also be destroyed with the guilty, even if you are innocent.

They are in that haram gathering now.

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posted on May, 17 2015 @ 09:26 PM
obama has to go down as the biggest moron of all time

fancy called isis j.v

posted on May, 17 2015 @ 09:42 PM

originally posted by: kayleighkiss
obama has to go down as the biggest moron of all time

fancy called isis j.v


its a people problem and people are broke.


posted on May, 17 2015 @ 09:57 PM
I don't understand what the words "fallen" mean.

These are really insane psychopathic gangsters holding 700 000 people hostage, brutaly selling babies, cutting womens genitals off, unbelievable. 200 000 over here, a million over there.


Fallen implies a spoil of war, but there is no spoils of war, its hijacked stadiums and the swat teams need to be on the job with the top hidden space technologies!
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posted on May, 17 2015 @ 09:57 PM
a reply to: daaskapital

it matters not what the circle of Imams or Clerics (in scholarship circles say)

what counts ~ or TRUMPS ~ the general opinion is that an Islamic State or Caliphate has been declared/brought into life... and the rules for a Caliph & Caliphate, override and supersede the opinions of the academics of Islam... Scholars or Clerics/Imams
and the policies, direction, edicts of the Caliph take precedence over all other voices ! (upon penalty of losing a hand or Ones head...)

with IS.... the Muslim body is required to Jihad/fight/war against the Infidels... it no longer is limited to 'defending Islam' but IS/Islam is on the offensive against the Heathens (Jews, Christians, others) it is their life's duty !

the world changed on 29 June 2014 when the Caliphate was declared
the world changed on 4 July 2014 when Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi ascended to the status of Caliph (a coincidental date? under stressed by USA media)
a ~ world-war~ was declared on everyone but an Asymmetric war against everything not Islamic

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posted on May, 18 2015 @ 01:14 AM

originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: supremecommander

1335 Americans died taking control of the ground in Anbar province then it was given up,we have had over 3000 bombing missions and what have they achieved?

The Viet Cong proved you can bomb till Kingdom come but if you don't control the ground,you don't control anything.

It seems lessons are never learnt.

Yes, lessons have been learned.

Iraq, as with Vietnam aren't wars meant to be WON.
They are wars meant to be SUSTAINED.
Nothing more, nothing less.

Thats exactly why they never finish off isis completely.

Thats why they never get the job done and always have to return to do the same months later.

Américas like a huge rip off car mechanic that when you take him your car, he cuts wires that aren't damaged so you have to go back, then he damages something you keep going back.

posted on May, 18 2015 @ 02:15 AM
a reply to: St Udio

Yes, but clearly Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has little legitimacy in declaring himself as Caliph. The same can be said for his terrorist organisation. For most of the Muslim world to stand up to IS and declare it illegitimate, including the foremost scholar in Sunni Islam, is a testament to the fact that IS is masquerading under religion for political purposes.

Sure, it doesn't do much to sway the beliefs of young men enamored with a caliphate, but anyone with some intelligence should know that Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and his group of thugs are nothing more than that.

posted on May, 18 2015 @ 02:35 AM
I am so SORRY for the guys who fought there thinking they could make a difference while losing friends. That is always a tough pill to swallow.

ISIL and any other bad guys are a perfect means to justify all the money being spent on HLS, NSA, and all the police departments and their newly refurbished military equipment. If ISIL was totally destroyed tomorrow they will invert someone or something else to justify the money being spent... For you safety...or so the story goes...

ISIL drives to places in captured equipment or their new Toyota pickups, they are not airborne.. I doubt it would take two months to eradicate their assets if anyone was actually serious about sacking them who had air assets.. ISIL reminds me of some nation (S) attempt at herding cats and ISIL be the cats...

700,000 coming under ISIL command.. What a terribly sad EVIL world we live in.. Standby for beheading videos to follow.... and stories of children and women being raped and sold into slavery..
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posted on May, 18 2015 @ 11:38 AM
a reply to: andy1972

Just come from the Daily Mail the graphic horror has already started boy has toyota made a buck from this mob,landcruisers and they're' not cheap the victory parade had hundreds of them to put this into perspective imagine if the USA lost Boston to radicals.
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posted on May, 18 2015 @ 01:11 PM
so how is it possible for IS to capture a whole city when we have air superiority, constant bombing runs, drones and intel and commandos on the ground?

we're not talking about 50 IS fighters dressed as women on a few pick up trucks equipped only with ak47.
we're talking about heavy weapons.
how is it possible that any artillery, tank or apc that is not iraqi can survive any longer than 2 seconds near a city?

posted on May, 18 2015 @ 01:20 PM
a reply to: anticitizen

ISIS has aquired and is proficent in the use of the BGM71E TOW missile system is the quick answer

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