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Could the barrier or walls of time be breaking down?

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posted on May, 22 2015 @ 05:59 PM
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a reply to: Korg Trinity

Well I wait with baited breath to watch your Nobel prize award for your novel (that was hard to type) unified field theory, while I watch you do to others what you complain that people did to you in your ridiculous thread.




posted on May, 22 2015 @ 06:26 PM
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originally posted by: ISawItFirst
a reply to: Korg Trinity

Well I wait with baited breath to watch your Nobel prize award for your novel (that was hard to type) unified field theory, while I watch you do to others what you complain that people did to you in your ridiculous thread.


Again you show a serious lack of knowledge.. Unified Field Theory is the work of a great many people within my field who work towards a common goal of discovery.

Why not do yourself a favour next time and try googling at least about what it is you're posting about?!

And what thread may I ask would that be?


edit on 22-5-2015 by Korg Trinity because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 22 2015 @ 06:36 PM
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a reply to: Korg Trinity

Hahahahh. Go play on your calculator.

I didn't create a thread stating that I had found the one unifying law of physics. That was you.

Apparently you don't accept yourself as a source. That's probably the smartest thing you could do.



posted on May, 22 2015 @ 06:53 PM
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originally posted by: ISawItFirst
a reply to: Korg Trinity

Hahahahh. Go play on your calculator.

I didn't create a thread stating that I had found the one unifying law of physics. That was you.

Apparently you don't accept yourself as a source. That's probably the smartest thing you could do.


Where do I say I do not accept myself as source?

You did not author this thread either yet you defend it... "Could the barrier or walls of time be breaking down?"

REally?? Reallyy???? Please do tell us all... Please Define Time, what are the Barriers of time and how Time can Break Down??!?

Go right ahead.. I'm listening....

Korg.



posted on May, 22 2015 @ 07:09 PM
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a reply to: Korg Trinity

You presume your tree of knowledge is superior, that is your mistake. You seek truth in the external measuring of things, neglecting the role that consciousness itself plays in reality. That is the fundamental flaw of a science that is young and to many of us archaic and stilted in its view.

You presume to know the true state of things by measuring the external. Yet you are not the one out there exploring the limits of experience are you? You could just as well be playing a video game for all the true understanding you'd gain from looking at papers and putting intellect on a pedestal. It's the best we've got as far as material science goes, but you are not the only scientist, I don't claim to be an adept which would be the equivalent yet there are other types of sciences and they are far older than yours.

In reality there is no distinction, one is a science of personal discovery and practice. Another is completely bound by the very tools that would be used to inquire. The other inner science is infinitely harder to explore and externalize coherently into a society yet it's lofty stages of attainment are infinitely harder to master and few are the people on the planet that really attain the heights. They tend to be so perfected that they inspire entire religions and invite deification. Phd's are a dime a dozen.. a few years of intense study. Not thousands of lifetimes.

I'm not simply talking about thinking about ideas - mental gymnastics. I'm talking about routinely experiencing things that would shatter so many scientific paradigms it's ridiculous.

I don't misunderstand science, it's just that I see beyond it by necessity of the life I lead. I'm sure your mathematics are very impressive and I couldn't hope to understand the complexity of it, but the basic idea of science and the scientific method is fairly easily understood. I would never suggest that what you're doing is a waste of time, we just chose different paths and approaches to understanding is all.

They're very different yet they are both sciences, guided by completely different philosophies and approaches. The hard part will be bridging the gap. That's what more advanced civilisations deal with. We're not there yet though.

I do study every day and I have a lot of free time, I can promise you that. I obtain and contemplate knowledge daily, you're in no position to judge me with such a snide comment about that. I practice.



posted on May, 23 2015 @ 05:44 AM
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originally posted by: TheLaughingGod
a reply to: Korg Trinity

You presume your tree of knowledge is superior, that is your mistake. You seek truth in the external measuring of things, neglecting the role that consciousness itself plays in reality. That is the fundamental flaw of a science that is young and to many of us archaic and stilted in its view.


Superior to what?

If you are asking is Scientific knowledge which has been developed over the last few hundred years and built upon to create a greater understanding of the universe and our place within it....

is superior to...

Fantasy thoughts of the uneducated forum members of ATS...

You're damn Right I do!

Korg.


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posted on May, 23 2015 @ 01:21 PM
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a reply to: Korg Trinity

I see despite your apparent credentials you don't have the intelligence nor the maturity to really discuss this matter.

Get at me if you ever discover the walls of your mental prison and realize the flaws off your childish science. Your preening ego and pretensions of understanding is like the whining of a child that just had his legos taken away. The legos in this case would be your delusional and naive attempt at measuring a stick using a stick. You're nothing but an intellectual animal playing with numbers. When a biological robot thinks he's a biological robot, maybe he is. In the end you're only of this World, dead by any true measure.. a carcass that will eventually be discarded. Watch yourself, you don't even know what you might be in for you arrogant foolish little infant.

Seems you can't handle having your religion challenged. I understand and respect both, you on the other hand act like a priest defending your chosen dogma. Enjoy your dead "understanding".



posted on May, 23 2015 @ 03:15 PM
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originally posted by: TheLaughingGod
a reply to: Korg Trinity

I see despite your apparent credentials you don't have the intelligence nor the maturity to really discuss this matter.

Get at me if you ever discover the walls of your mental prison and realize the flaws off your childish science. Your preening ego and pretensions of understanding is like the whining of a child that just had his legos taken away. The legos in this case would be your delusional and naive attempt at measuring a stick using a stick. You're nothing but an intellectual animal playing with numbers. When a biological robot thinks he's a biological robot, maybe he is. In the end you're only of this World, dead by any true measure.. a carcass that will eventually be discarded. Watch yourself, you don't even know what you might be in for you arrogant foolish little infant.

Seems you can't handle having your religion challenged. I understand and respect both, you on the other hand act like a priest defending your chosen dogma. Enjoy your dead "understanding".


It is you who have got the wrong end of the stick...

As I said earlier.. Science is all about discovery and that starts with imagination.

The issue I have here is that many people are simply stating that imagination is enough... that we no longer need to validate our thoughts through experimentation and the scientific method.

To simply refute proven laws of physics that has been validated both mathematically and in the face of empirical evidence in favor of your imagination must be the result of either a psychological issue or a retarded intellect.

As I have stated here.. if anyone would like to discuss the actual math behind why we know time is part of space and is a dimension, by all means I am more than willing...



posted on May, 23 2015 @ 03:18 PM
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originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
As a work of fiction this thread is entertaining. That anyone could think that a particle collider like the ones that have been in constant use since the thirties(yes since the 1930s) could do this is pure fantasy at best. Why didn't we get the same doom scenario out of fermilab or the collider right in my own backyard in Newport News VA? Wanna know why? Because Dan Brown didn't write about them in a book.
One would think those early accelerators would have been even more dangerous.


Since the Thirties?

That could explain an awful lot.



posted on May, 23 2015 @ 03:44 PM
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a reply to: TheLaughingGod

We tried. I used to be just like him. Until I met my math professor. If he's into multi dimensional calculus, he has probably read my professors books. It was apparent to me, that despite being a wholly valid and respectable course of study, it was woefully inadequate in many other areas of my interest. My professor agreed, although my advisor, head of the math department, tried everything to get me back on a math major. I was over it.

Korgs wonderful unified field theory, or rather as he put it, one true law of physics was something we discussed at length in 9th grade. It led to the name of our think tank group. Yeah, we were nerds. I was through Calc 3 and on to differential equations and discreet math before I was 18. I didn't follow it any further. It really can lead to a false sense if security not to mention headaches.

Anyways, let's pretend this conversation is in some kind of of paranormal studies forum instead of the forum of Korg arbitration.

I had never seen any light wisps like you describe, but I may have last night. They were like a group of wispy lights crossing my window. Like reflections off rippling water, which there was none. I cannot rule out some kind of reflection at all, although I watched the spot for quite some time after, to rule out passing cars or tv reflection. I'm still not sure this is a time related phenomenon, but I figured I'd include to see if similar to yours. No one else on the room seemed to notice, but the hockey game was on.

I'd say don't let them get you down, but I know that you wont.

In the words of Doctor Emmitt Brown, "Marty, You've got to stop thinking four dimesnionally"
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posted on May, 23 2015 @ 06:56 PM
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a reply to: Korg Trinity

Perhaps it's your retarded intellect then since I've made it quite clear that I(and millions of others, a whole bunch in this very thread) have experienced and keep on experiencing phenomena that would refute the completely materialist basis or interpretation of your vaunted but deeply flawed science. I don't need to refute a calcified and stunted science when reality keeps doing it for me on a regular basis.

A retarded intellect would perhaps disingenuously interpret that as imagination. No one is talking about imagination specifically here, that is merely your ad-hominem attempt at handwaving.

You guys are so predictable. The love for the word empirical, the totally misguided and repeated attempts at pointing out what science is like the scientific method was rocket science.. oh, wait. We do understand it though, science. After all, mystics were always at the frontiers of science and laid down the basics. It is unfortunate however that many of the inheritors of that science are myopic and mediocre little robots, indoctrinated to the point of religious fervor. How ironic.

I'm outside of your rigid little box, I'm outside of the box of your precious science. I don't need the approval of either, I already know what you would choose to deny you sad little man - we already know. And there's millions and millions of us that would all testify to the ineptitude of modern science and the ineptitude and indoctrinated views of these arrogant little men in lab coats. The cutting edge of science in this modern age is secret and tries to incorporate a larger and more expansive framework, but perhaps your too inept to realize that too. I'm giving you a lot of ammo here by even mentioning this, but so far your replies have been lacklustre and incredibly predictable so it probably won't matter.

You can keep playing with your numbers and your rigid little rules, meanwhile I'll be transcending them.



posted on May, 23 2015 @ 08:16 PM
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originally posted by: TheLaughingGod
a reply to: Korg Trinity

Perhaps it's your retarded intellect then since I've made it quite clear that I(and millions of others, a whole bunch in this very thread) have experienced and keep on experiencing phenomena that would refute the completely materialist basis or interpretation of your vaunted but deeply flawed science. I don't need to refute a calcified and stunted science when reality keeps doing it for me on a regular basis.


O.k. let me ask you this.

What is the most likely of the following two scenarios?

1. The universe works differently for you, the known laws of Physics do not apply to you.

2. You are experiencing reality differently than everyone else?

Either way my advice to you would be book yourself into your nearest hospital asap!

Korg.



posted on May, 23 2015 @ 10:18 PM
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a reply to: ISawItFirst

You're right. Getting bogged down in a pointless debate or perhaps a mud slinging contest isn't very helpful. I'm somewhat hesitant of talking about a lot of stuff though, suffice it to say that it does indeed look like changes are happening in places we normally can't perceive. Some would say it's something akin to many of the ideas associated with the "2012 movement", or more on point: the changes that started in 2012 or reached some kind of mile point then are starting to accelerate or gain momentum. But as I mentioned, I'm reluctant to touch on that.

My life thus far have probably differed pretty much from yours, I was never into really educating myself when I was younger. I was too busy running around being a hell-raiser. Always was the black sheep, did stupid stuff into my early twenties when I successively became more and more of a hermit. The onset of bipolar disorder sent me reeling for a long time, really just up until quite recently. Ended up in some pretty bleak situations, jail(nothing really serious though, just awaiting psychiatric evaluation) for a while because of a psychotic mania and then looked up at the intersection of law and psychiatry in a mental hospital. And while that might bring up connotations of Arkham asylum or something similar that would be a tad dramatic as a description. Still, not a nice place to be. The imposed limitations and chaos of a dysfunctional routine schedule of dumping of brain chemicals made life hard living but it also brought perspective of a kind.

These days I would say I live the "paranormal life", I've made progress and life is finally livable. And while I might be crazy in more than one sense, I would still say I'm not crazy. The prime factor in this assessment is the fact that so many of these experiences defy the hallucinatory explanation. I like to quote From Dusk til Dawn: "Psychos do not explode when sunlight hits them, I don't give a # how crazy they are!".. These things interact with the physical world, invisible beings can "override" physical matter. I've shared many of these experiences with others, the explanations of skeptics doesn't even make sense in their own paradigm. There is no such thing as mass hallucinations, not following their rigid parameters, and there's definitely no such thing as mass hallucinations that blatantly interact with the physical world.

What a lot of people don't seem to realize is that you only have to change this one very specific thing about our science and our view to fundamentally change everything. You only have to realize the role that consciousness plays in reality. One thing, one change, one correction. And suddenly a whole new world of experiences comes into view. Elemental spirits, demons, gods, supernatural abilities, magic.. everything we, humanity, always talked about.. and it still goes on. The main difference between then and now is the characteristics of certain ages. This age specifically supports a wide range of experiences but I guess the most specific characteristic is the mentality of atheism, agnosticism and materialism that has had a chance to grow because of certain factors and which haven't really been this widespread before in all of our recorded history haven't really been this widespread before.

I think it's an important step for humanity though, even though I find many skeptics and "scientific" types to be insufferable and arrogant a-holes with their heads in the sand. The amount of religious fervour and disrespect some of them display against "believers" is very reminiscent of some religious people. In their minds they're the white knights on a crusade for logic and rationality, in reality they're doing the job of gatekeepers and acting like witch hunters(Randi the fraud and Dawkins would be perfect examples here. Dawkins actually complained about the "irrational influence" X-Files was having on people. Fictional police, gee, and here I thought I was a jerk(reference my earlier posts in this thread)). There are many reasons why any ruler with some sense would do anything in their power to suppress esoteric teachings, and indeed that has long been the history of our planet. In that way science has become another church, albeit with immense fruits of both knowledge and the application of that knowledge. It's also like many skeptics like to point out self-corrective, though it is also subject to manipulation and cultural bias.

My mentality is not anti-science, I'm not religious, I don't feel threatened by science. I embrace it, and in my own way I might use it in novel or heterodox ways. But there's not necessarily a separation for me. There's the philosophy of science and the modern method and its application on the physical world. Then there's the exploration of the hidden, which has always been scientific in its own way and from where a lot of sciences emerged. And then there's the highest science, the highest because in the end it transcends all. They're all connected in dynamic ways.

An interesting anecdote regarding science and the paranormal. I had an interesting conversation earlier this night, I was made aware of the fact that a lot of spirits watch movies or TV that people are watching(someone had been watching Forrest Gump and jokingly told me "seat's taken"). Now, that might be quite obvious if one postulates that spirits actually exist and that they can see us. I found that a little amusing, but it interestingly led to the next part of the conversation. The notion that some of them are actually very interested in science, and that they actually go out of their way to learn sometimes. I found the idea interesting, must be a bitch to try to read a whole textbook when you can't easily pick them up though. I had the mental picture of some entity stalking students and reading over their shoulder, or going house to house looking for otakus just to see a particular episode of some show. Hah ^^,

Well, take it for what its worth. I'm just some guy on the internet and I'm not out to convince anyone. Just throwing some ideas and thoughts into the ether.

Now you've got even more ammo Korg, I've been diagnosed and I even spent time in a mental hospital. It also seems I suffer from severe delusions(of the impossible kind) . Ha.. or I might just be crazy enough to be sane. I think I might have gone full circle!



posted on May, 23 2015 @ 11:07 PM
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Your analysis is childish and embarrassing coming from a scientist. You neglect so many possibilities it's ridiculous. Not very impressed by your mental prowess. Is it really too hard for you to think of a reasonable explanation that covers all bases? Not very imaginative are we..

Your thinking is black and white. In the situation science finds itself it has covered as many bases as it can to account for all the observable phenomena in its sphere of perception. Now, when something new and novel shows up in the set of data, the scientific response is supposed to be to integrate the new data into the current model in a consistent way. If it fails to do this and fails to acknowledge this data the science is then visibly incorrect in as far as the piece of data is genuine and rightly acknowledged. This is what mainstream science has failed to do because of a) a cultural bias, b) arrogance, c) fear of losing face, d) indoctrination, e) limitations and f) resistance to change.

In my microcosm I integrated this information. To me it doesn't matter if you don't know that, I've had all the empirical PROOF I need. On the macrocosmic level on this planet denial, aggression and the employment of unfair and always out of reach standards of proof(moving of the goalpost) has been the response. There's not an observation in the world that you guys couldn't spin or explain away using mental gymnastics.

Now a question for you. If you saw a vase levitating in the air moving its position in physical space. And you went up to it and felt it. It really did move. A vase that has been standing there in your room for as long as you can remember. Would you believe it didn't happen? Say another supposedly impossible thing happens, and then again. Would you deny it? That wouldn't be a very scientific approach now would it.

The ad-hominems just aren't doing it for you.. maybe you should quit. It's getting embarrassing and you've got all the major official institutions behind your back. Put up a better fight! I'm giving you ammo, you've got the stamp of officialdom, you're representing the conventional and popular view, you've got your fancy phd. That glorious paper of yours that says "I've been a good drone, I've memorized both this and that". Too bad you seem to be lacking in imagination and creativity. Throw that sh*t away and go back to school, get a real education. Maybe eventually the transhumanists could upgrade your brain, then you'd be even more of a tool.

Maybe science and the philosophy surrounding science isn't really your thing. You could always take up painting.



posted on May, 23 2015 @ 11:12 PM
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Get a brain scan. Quickly.

Nothing to do with time slips. Everything to do with brain chemistry making you think memories are real. Could possibly be a tumor if this just started all of a sudden.

Your dog saw the same thing? Likely you just imagined this portion as well.



posted on May, 24 2015 @ 12:11 AM
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One man's tumor is another man's utopia.



posted on May, 24 2015 @ 05:24 AM
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originally posted by: babybunnies
Get a brain scan. Quickly.

Nothing to do with time slips. Everything to do with brain chemistry making you think memories are real. Could possibly be a tumor if this just started all of a sudden.

Your dog saw the same thing? Likely you just imagined this portion as well.


If you are genuinely experiencing periods of missing time then yes there is a medical issue with you, and no it's nothing to do with time suddenly jumping from one period to another....



posted on May, 24 2015 @ 08:11 AM
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originally posted by: Korg Trinity

originally posted by: babybunnies
Get a brain scan. Quickly.

Nothing to do with time slips. Everything to do with brain chemistry making you think memories are real. Could possibly be a tumor if this just started all of a sudden.

Your dog saw the same thing? Likely you just imagined this portion as well.


If you are genuinely experiencing periods of missing time then yes there is a medical issue with you, and no it's nothing to do with time suddenly jumping from one period to another....



Now he is a mathemitcian, physicist, physician, psychologist, and future Nobel prize winner. We are all superfluous. Korg can do everything.



posted on May, 24 2015 @ 01:09 PM
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originally posted by: ISawItFirst

originally posted by: Korg Trinity

originally posted by: babybunnies
Get a brain scan. Quickly.

Nothing to do with time slips. Everything to do with brain chemistry making you think memories are real. Could possibly be a tumor if this just started all of a sudden.

Your dog saw the same thing? Likely you just imagined this portion as well.


If you are genuinely experiencing periods of missing time then yes there is a medical issue with you, and no it's nothing to do with time suddenly jumping from one period to another....



Now he is a mathemitcian, physicist, physician, psychologist, and future Nobel prize winner. We are all superfluous. Korg can do everything.


It's Funny how Crazy people all look at everyone else and say I am sane... everyone else is crazy.



posted on May, 24 2015 @ 01:16 PM
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Dear OP... You do realise that time is a concept invented by humans solely based on the premise which Earth exists in.

Our denomination of time has no influence what so ever on the rest of the universe. There id only now.......

But.... Wether energy can carry around remnants of previous events is yet to be proven however I do believe myself that it would be possible and those rememnants could be interpreted by our brains as visions or "ghosts".



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