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The Reformation of the whole wide world.

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posted on May, 15 2015 @ 07:58 AM
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An interesting satire that found it's way into the Rosicrucian Fama by Traiano Boccalin, the news from Parnassus, interesting in that it predicts the follies of Freemasonry and the revolutionary enlightenment and best describes the current situation bleak.


Amongst the many mysteries that enshroud the Rosicrucian enigma of the early seventeenth century, one of the most vexing is the elusive purpose of the Allgemeine und General Reformation der gantzen weiten Welt

This short text anonymously prefaced the frst edition of the initial Rosicrucian declaration, the Fama Fraternitatis 1614



The concern is with the generally wretched state of humanity and what might be done about it.


The General Reformation opens with the Emperor Justinian presenting a law against suicide to a horrified god Apollo for approval « Is the good government of mankind », Apollo responds, « then fallen into so great disorder, as men, that they may live no longer, do voluntarily kill themselves ?»

When Justinian confims, Apollo appoints the seven wise men of Greece, along with Marcus and Annæus Seneca and contemporary Italian philosopher Jacopo Mazzoni, to bring about a necessary ‘general reformation’.

Sequestered in the Delphic palace atop Mount Parnassus, the reforming committee brain-storms a series of implausible strategies.


Among the solutions considered are being able to see what everyone else is up to, the abolition of capitalism, isolationism and if all else fails killing everyone, thus a great prophetic work.


Thales, believing that the root of corruption lies within the hearts of mankind, suggests a window be placed in the chest of all men so others can determine their character. Solon advocates the abolition of buying and selling, while Chilo argues for the elimination of the two infamous metals gold and silver.

Bias asserts that decay could be avoided if all traffic between nations is brought to a halt, so as not to unbalance the harmony of universal peace

And even as Cato suggests a universal deluge may be the only way to return the world to an uncorrupted state, the difficulty of the situation dawns on a perplexed Cleobulus


Eventually they realize that their ideas are all stupid.


I clearly perceive, wise Gentlemen, that the reformation o the present age, a business of itself very easy, becomes by the diversity and extravagancy of our opinions rather impossible then diffcult it grieves my heart to find even amongst us that are here,that common defect of ambitious and slight wits, who labor more to shew the rarity of their own wits, by new and curious conceits.

Indeed, as Cleobulus continues, the reader must also ask himself whether the reforming strategies are not sophistical fancies and mere chimaeras


However something must be seen to be done so they determine upon pointless laws dressed up as high sounding ideals that will be readily embraced as positive change.


The council concludes that while the state of the world may be irrecoverable, their reputations need not be the same. They therefore decide to compose a manifesto for reform, of such noble and magnificent character that it could distract the public from the failure of their endeavour. The contents of this manifesto are utterly nonsensical. In it, the prices of certain vegetables such as sprats and cabbages are fixed, and this information is attached to a lengthy celebration of the congregation’s own wisdom. When the document was finally read to an eager public it was so generally applauded by every one with shouts of joy

For the meaner sort of people are pleased with every little thing, As long as there be men, there will be vices. That men live on earth, though not well, yet as little ill as they may ; and that the height of human wisdom lay in being so discreet as to be content to leave the world as they found it


Of course this accurately describes the situations brought about by follies such as the French, American and Russian revolutions, were the founding fathers of such are or were held in the highest esteem, having made themselves look very good, whilst in reality the lot of the common man was little better if not worse...one wasn't really supposed to carry out the satire.

What the Fama rather did look forward toward was the natural restoration of natural balance through the recognition of celestial Minerva, the importance of Feminine values, hardly likely to be brought about by exclusive all male societies, though the likes of the Illuminati did at least pay lip service to the equality of Minervas.



Europe is with child and will bring forth a strong child, who shall stand in need of a great godfather’s gift This child, shall awake out of her heavy and drowsy sleep, and with an open heart, bare-head, and bare-foot, shall merrily and joyfully meet the new arising Sun

After a long struggle, the prophetically ordained victory of the Minervas, or the bearers of the reforming wisdom,supported by the prophecies of the oracles of Mount Parnassus, would be assured.


So anyway if one likes satire the current state of the world is a particularly amusing one

“But I will tell you another thing, Son of all- glorious Maia and Zeus who holds the aegis, luck-bringing genius of the gods. There are certain holy ones, sisters born -- three virgins gifted with wings: their heads are besprinkled with white meal, and they dwell under a ridge of Parnassus.

Sophisti cal fancies and mere chimeras


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posted on May, 15 2015 @ 08:28 AM
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Thanks for sharing.
I enjoyed that.
Sn'F.



That men live on earth, though not well, yet as little ill as they may ; and that the height of human wisdom lay in being so discreet as to be content to leave the world as they found it


Wonderful.



posted on May, 15 2015 @ 08:30 AM
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a reply to: HumansEh

Yes and then they wonder why the world situation is a joke when they simply follow the programme...



posted on May, 15 2015 @ 11:31 AM
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Vaguely similar to the ol Georgia Guidestones...seems some may still hold up hope. Nice post!


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posted on May, 15 2015 @ 01:28 PM
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a reply to: BlueJacket

Yes the dreaming up of ridiculous solutions, the reason the satire was included in the Fama was to caution against such obviously but this seems to have been overlooked, so we have such delights as common markets, common currencies and New world orders foisted upon us as solutions.



posted on May, 16 2015 @ 01:30 AM
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it grieves my heart to find even amongst us that are here,that common defect of ambitious and slight wits, who labor more to shew the rarity of their own wits, by new and curious conceits.

But now days it seems we don't even bother to act witty. Banality passes for wit.

Is all male Bohemian Grove club Illuminati? I watched an infiltration film once that showed the plays acted. They had owls. Lip service? I'm not familiar with what real plays would look like. Was the play at the Grove some sort of insulting parody?


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posted on May, 16 2015 @ 02:37 AM
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The Bohemian grove allegory is only concerned with the sacrifice of care to wisdom, Jovian executives cutting into the schedule of their duties and responsibilities in order to find recreational balance in nature, of course it's typical Masonic over dramatization in order to get a point across, but that's all.

An important point of the News from Parnassus satire is the total dedication to Apollo as the principle of their enlightenment, they put aside Christos for his Greek equivalent in terms of light bringer, there are other examples of this such as here, showing how this had been fully adopted in England by 1720;


Parnassus, February the twenty-seventh.
The poets assembled here on the eleventh,
Convened by Apollo, who gave them to know
He'd have a vicegerent in his empire below;
But declared that no bard should this honour inherit,
Till the rest had agreed he surpass'd them in merit:


So in recognizing the Greek equivalents to be found in the Gospels they went all out into the Neo-Classical and allegorical, the benefit in this was that Greek tradition offered potential greater insight with regards to what was involved with any cult of Christos taken as Apollo, the downside that this marginalized the Near Eastern elements of the religion and the historical establishment of it.

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posted on May, 16 2015 @ 11:06 AM
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Folly, thou conquerest, and I must yield!
Against stupidity the very gods
Themselves contend in vain.
Exalted reason,
Resplendent daughter of the head divine,
Wise foundress of the system of the world,
Guide of the stars, who art thou then if thou,
Bound to the tail of folly's uncurbed steed,
Must, vainly shrieking with the drunken crowd,
Eyes open, plunge down headlong in the abyss.
Accursed, who striveth after noble ends,
And with deliberate wisdom forms his plans!
To the fool-king belongs the world.

Die Jungfrau von Orleans (The Maid of Orleans) (1801), Act III, sc. vi (as translated by Anna Swanwick)
en.wikiquote.org...

I have a theory, unfortunately I have no plan.

Secret societies are like corporations, they don't die like men, yet their greatest wisdom dies with a man, leaving the reins to lesser men.

Consider the panic people felt about the Mayan calendar ending in 2012, whether it did or not, the perception of such was out there.

My theory is this:

The plan of the secret societies only extended to the late 1980s. Of course they didn't publish such a thing, save the public from panic don't you know, for their own good and all. By the time the plan ended, the reins of power were in the hands of idiots.

The idiot rulers, lacking any good ideas, decided that wars would be a suitable distraction for the people while giving themselves time to think of something else. So here we are. They still have no better plan.

That's my theory. I can't think of a plan. Maybe some one can.



the downside that this marginalized the Near Eastern elements of the religion and the historical establishment of it.

I think it may be time for me to stop talking for a while and do more research and thinking.

Thank you.

PS
Why the Déjà vu? Did I write this exact same thing before? I kind of remember, but not quite.
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posted on May, 16 2015 @ 11:53 AM
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The master plan is to frustrate Apollo so much by their own useless efforts he determines to sort things out himself...



posted on May, 16 2015 @ 12:11 PM
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originally posted by: pthena

My theory is this:

The plan of the secret societies only extended to the late 1980s. Of course they didn't publish such a thing, save the public from panic don't you know, for their own good and all. By the time the plan ended, the reins of power were in the hands of idiots.

The idiot rulers, lacking any good ideas, decided that wars would be a suitable distraction for the people while giving themselves time to think of something else. So here we are. They still have no better plan.

That's my theory. I can't think of a plan. Maybe some one can.



My own research indicates that the "plan" is to "substitute arbitration for law". The secret society gets to enjoy the privilege of law, while the rest of us can only seek arbitration. Here is a summary of the "plan" as found by another ATS member.

The Global Banking System: Descensus in Cuniculi Cavum
15-8-2011 @ 12:56 PM
by Agarta
Stars 169
Flags 229



    1. Use violence and terrorism rather than academic discussions.
    2. Preach “Liberalism” to usurp political power.
    3. Initiate class warfare.
    4. Politicians must be cunning and deceptive – any moral code leaves a politician vulnerable.
    5. Dismantle “existing forces of order and regulation.” Reconstruct all existing institutions.”
    6. Remain invisible until the very moment when it has gained such strength that no cunning or force can undermine it.
    7. Use Mob Psychology to control the masses. “Without absolute despotism one cannot rule efficiently.”
    8. Advocate the use of alcoholic liquors, drugs, moral corruption and all forms of vice, used systematically by “agenteurs” to corrupt the youth.
    9. Seize properties by any means to secure submission and sovereignty.
    10. Foment wars and control the peace conferences so that neither of the combatants gains territory placing them further in debt and therefore into our power.
    11. Choose candidates for public office who will be “servile and obedient to our commands, so they may be readily used as pawns in our game.”
    12. Use the Press for propaganda to control all outlets of public information, while remaining in the shadows, clear of blame.
    13. Make the masses believe they had been the prey of criminals. Then restore order to appear as the saviors.
    14. Create financial panics. Use hunger to control to subjugate the masses.
    15. Infiltrate Freemasonry to take advantage of the Grand Orient Lodges to cloak the true nature of their work in philanthropy. Spread their atheistic-materialistic ideology amongst the "Goyim" (gentiles).
    16. When the hour strikes for our sovereign lord of the entire World to be crowned, their influence will banish everything that might stand in his way.
    17. Use systematic deception, high-sounding phrases and popular slogans. “The opposite of what has been promised can always be done afterwards... That is of no consequence.”
    18. A Reign of Terror is the most economical way to bring about speedy subjection.
    19. Masquerade as political, financial and economic advisers to carry out our mandates with Diplomacy and without fear of exposing “the secret power behind national and international affairs.”
    20. Ultimate world government is the goal. It will be necessary to establish huge monopolies, so even the largest fortunes of the Goyim will depend on us to such an extent that they will go to the bottom together with the credit of their governments on the day after the great political smash.”
    21. Use economic warfare. Rob the "Goyim" of their landed properties and industries with a combination of high taxes and unfair competition.
    22. “Make the 'Goyim' destroy each other so there will only be the proletariat left in the world, with a few millionaires devoted to our cause, and sufficient police and soldiers to protect our interest.”
    23. Call it The New Order. Appoint a Dictator.
    24. Fool, bemuse and corrupt the younger members of society by teaching them theories and principles we know to be false.
    25. Twist national and international laws into a contradiction which first masks the law and afterwards hides it altogether. Substitute arbitration for law.



The Global Banking System: Descensus in Ciniculi Cavum


The Law and the government become
indistuguishable
joined at the hips
and fewer and fewer common people
will have,
or even understand,
legal representation.

A return to the plunder based economy. With humanity as the perpetual serf.


According to Agarta's thread, the last phase of the plan
for global domination by a few banks is the substitution of
Law for Arbitration.

The problem is that an average person has no emotional access to what I just said.

In the following posts I will illustrate the plan by matching it to ten year increments of history. Perhaps the readers, then, may be able to feel what the phrase "substitute law for arbitration" means.


Mike Grouchy
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posted on May, 16 2015 @ 12:12 PM
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1773-1783 (1). Use violence and terrorism rather than academic discussions.
    1773-1774 France, Jacobins, Reign of Terror

1783-1793 (2). Preach “Liberalism” to usurp political power.
    1783 with the Treaty of Paris, in which the British recognized American independence.
    The American Revolution (1776-1783) further contributed to the definition of liberalism.

1793-1803 (3). Initiate class warfare.
    The Bristol Bridge Riot of 30 September 1793 began as a protest at renewal of an act levying of tolls on Bristol Bridge, which included the proposal to demolish several houses near the bridge in order to create a new access road, and controversy about the date for removal of gates. 11 people were killed and 45 injured, making it one of the worst massacres of the 18th century.

1803-1813 (4). Politicians must be cunning and deceptive – any moral code leaves a politician vulnerable.
    Bailyn asserts it simply represented a contradiction with Jefferson, that he was “simultaneously a radical utopian idealist and a hardheaded, adroit, at times cunning politician.

1813-1823 (5). Dismantle “existing forces of order and regulation.” Reconstruct all existing institutions.”
    East India Company Act 1813 (Charter Act)
    asserted the sovereignty of the British Crown over the Indian territories held by the Company;
    required the company to maintain separate and distinct its commercial and territorial accounts

1823-1833 (6). Remain invisible until the very moment when it has gained such strength that no cunning or force can undermine it.
    The greatest fossil hunter ever known was a woman from Lyme Regis named Mary Anning.
    Her work contributed to the fundamental changes in scientific thinking about prehistoric life and the history of the earth that occurred in the early 19th century.

1833-1843 (7). Use Mob Psychology to control the masses. “Without absolute despotism one cannot rule efficiently.”

Democratic Propaganda: by Auguste Blanqui 1833
marxists.org...

1843-1853 (8). Advocate the use of alcoholic liquors, drugs, moral corruption and all forms of vice, used systematically by “agenteurs” to corrupt the youth.
    "The News of the World", first published on 1 October 1843, by John Browne Bell in London. Priced at just three pence (equal to £1.04 today), even before the repeal of the Stamp Act or paper duty, it was the cheapest newspaper of its time and was aimed directly at the newly literate working classes. It quickly established itself as a purveyor of titillation, shock and criminal news. Much of the source material came from coverage of vice prosecutions, including transcripts of police descriptions of alleged brothels, streetwalkers, and "immoral" women.

1853-1863 (9). Seize properties by any means to secure submission and sovereignty.
    1853, the state legislature used the power of eminent domain to seize the space necessary for Central Park
    Exercise of eminent domain powers by privately owned railroads


continued in next post ... 2 of 4


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posted on May, 16 2015 @ 12:12 PM
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1863-1873 (10). Foment wars and control the peace conferences so that neither of the combatants gains territory placing them further in debt and therefore into our power.
    Lee surrendered his Army of Northern Virginia on April 9, 1865, at the McLean House in the village of Appomattox Court House. In an untraditional gesture and as a sign of Grant's respect and anticipation of peacefully restoring Confederate states to the Union, Lee was permitted to keep his sword and his horse, "Traveller".

1873-1883 (11). Choose candidates for public office who will be “servile and obedient to our commands, so they may be readily used as pawns in our game.”
    4,036,572 votes Rutherford B. Hayes he lost popular vote (electoral 185)
    4,284,020 votes Samuel J. Tiden, won popular (electoral 184 lost the election)

1883-1893 (12). Use the Press for propaganda to control all outlets of public information, while remaining in the shadows, clear of blame.
    In 1883, Pulitzer, by then a wealthy man, purchased the New York World

1893-1903 (13). Make the masses believe they had been the prey of criminals. Then restore order to appear as the saviors.
    Yellow Journalism
    Yellow Ink. In 1893 Publisher installed color pressed to print the Sunday supplements, and Goddard used them to expand the comics section.
    He not only embellished facts but virtually created the pseudo science articles featured in later tabloids, thus increasing the popularity of the Sunday World.


1903-1913 (14). Create financial panics. Use hunger to control to subjugate the masses.
    The Panic of 1903 reached its nadir — the Dow dropped to a paltry 42.15 as the stocks of industrial companies plunged to single-digit lows.
    Also known as the “Rich Man’s Panic,” the fiscal crisis dragged on for the rest of the year, taking a severe toll on banks, as well as many steel and iron producers.


1913-1923 (15). Infiltrate Freemasonry to take advantage of the Grand Orient Lodges to cloak the true nature of their work in philanthropy. Spread their atheistic-materialistic ideology amongst the "Goyim" (gentiles).
    1913 Federal Reserve Act: A list of advisors to President Wilson (Mason) in favor of the act
    Carter Glass (33'rd degree) congresman (later became Secretary of the Treasury)
    William Gibbs McAdoo (32'nd degree) Secretary of Treasury


1923-1933 (16). When the hour strikes for our sovereign lord of the entire World to be crowned, their influence will banish everything that might stand in his way.
    On November 8, 1923 Adolph Hitler led his Nazi followers in an abortive attempt to seize power in Munich in what became known as the "Beer Hall Putsch".


1933-1943 (17). Use systematic deception, high-sounding phrases and popular slogans. “The opposite of what has been promised can always be done afterwards... That is of no consequence.”
    1933 Franklin D. Roosevelt, The New Deal


1943-1953 (18). A Reign of Terror is the most economical way to bring about speedy subjection.
    The Holocaust
    Pulicizing the same through Nuremberg trials


1953-1963 (19). Masquerade as political, financial and economic advisers to carry out our mandates with Diplomacy and without fear of exposing “the secret power behind national and international affairs.”
    After authorizing $385 million over the $400 million already budgeted for military aid to Vietnam, U.S. President Dwight Eisenhower warns against United States intervention in Vietnam.


1963-1973 (20). Ultimate world government is the goal. It will be necessary to establish huge monopolies, so even the largest fortunes of the Goyim will depend on us to such an extent that they will go to the bottom together with the credit of their governments on the day after the great political smash.”
    George Harrison of the Beatles Playing Monopoly While on Tour in the USA September 1964
    General Electric
    AT&T
    In the period 1964–66 alone, in connection with the American aggression in Vietnam, the gross profits of the US aerospace monopolies increased 1½ times, amounting to nearly $2 billion.
    1964 Esso advertizing campaign "Put a tiger in your tank" Esso later becomes Exxon.
    Lyndon B. Johnson succeeded to the presidency following the assassination of John F. Kennedy, completed Kennedy's term and was elected President in his own right, winning by a large margin in the 1964 Presidential election.


1973-1983 (21). Use economic warfare. Rob the "Goyim" of their landed properties and industries with a combination of high taxes and unfair competition.
    1974 Economic recession
    Nixon opens China 72, then Resigns 74
    Despite the failure to control inflation, controls were slowly ended, and on April 30, 1974, their statutory authorization lapsed.


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posted on May, 16 2015 @ 12:14 PM
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1983-1993 (22). “Make the 'Goyim' destroy each other so there will only be the proletariat left in the world, with a few millionaires devoted to our cause, and sufficient police and soldiers to protect our interest.”
    The Forbes 400 or 400 Richest Americans (first published in 1982)
    Publishers at the top This year's "Forbes 400," like last year's, give us some fascinating insights into some of the country's wealthiest families--including a good number whose fortunes have come from publishing activities. In fact, publishing continues to rank third as the source of "400" family income, following oil and real estate.


1993-2003 (23). Call it The New Order. Appoint a Dictator.

2003-2013 (24). Fool, bemuse and corrupt the younger members of society by teaching them theories and principles we know to be false.

2013-2023 (25). Twist national and international laws into a contradiction which first masks the law and afterwards hides it altogether. Substitute arbitration for law.”


last post ... 4 of 4


David Grouchy



posted on May, 16 2015 @ 12:55 PM
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S & F, interesting and thanks for emphasising the satire

a reply to: mikegrouchy

the only problem i keep having with "it is all pre-planned" and what not: why do still so many politicians get murdered for their opinions? Wrong club? If you would have an order that is actively manipulating and steering from behind the scenes wouldn't at least some of them step forward and say something, since we are almost all related and friends? Do you really think there is a pure-bred family since hundreds of years and wouldn't they be gruesome disfigured through inbreed by now?



posted on May, 16 2015 @ 01:01 PM
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I'm still not sure who wrote the spell that is being cast over the world, but the evidence is quite remarkable. Somebody is casting the spell. Who ever may have originally designed it.

Is the reader seriously going to deny that corporate jobs are increasingly making new hires sign "arbitration" agreements to settle all legal disputes. Just like the plan (almost 250 years old) said it would.


Mike Grouchy
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posted on May, 16 2015 @ 01:14 PM
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Well whoever wrote it had some badass hindsight going on, that's for sure. But couldn't it be just that, a prophecy and not an actual plan?
I bet most of it is not entirely true as there are so many hidden forces and all of them try to dominate the others, there is surely some more complicated sub-truth going on.
If anyting, the economy will collapse, but mankind won't die out, and isn't that kind of what matters? "The riches" won't have it easy in the upcoming pardigm shift, but where it will lead us to is still open. Could be just the end of the pecuniary trade.

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posted on May, 16 2015 @ 01:25 PM
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The master plan is to frustrate Apollo so much by their own useless efforts he determines to sort things out himself...

That's very twisted. Have they befuddled Apollo? Seduced him?

In the stories, the gods had meetings when crises presented themselves and chose a champion. And you say these people had a meeting and chose Apollo as their champion. What the hell?

Shouldn't Apollo himself say "What the hell am I doing here? Maybe I should go check with the pantheon and quit listening to these idiots?"

So maybe the cult of Apollo should get on the stick and tell him so.

Is the cult of Apollo screwed up too? Crying out loud!

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I don't know if I can get into Apollo's head. Sounds dangerous.

ETA

Now I get it


The Greek Pantheon formed late in the game, after the great assemblies. The stories of the assemblies are much older, ancient Mideast.

Maybe the older god/desses can talk to the Greek pantheon? Or depose Apollo.

I heard a rumor that wars fomented in the Mideast were intended to erase the connection to the roots.
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posted on May, 16 2015 @ 01:58 PM
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originally posted by: pthena
The master plan is to frustrate Apollo so much by their own useless efforts he determines to sort things out himself...




originally posted by: Kantzveldt
That's very twisted. Have they befuddled Apollo? Seduced him?

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I don't know if I can get into Apollo's head. Sounds dangerous.



The tale of how Athene conquered the
angry spirits of the ancient gods
who found they had lost.

www.gradesaver.com...

Apollo wasn't there when Athene settled the people with the promise of homes. I get the impression she was acting in the name of Olympus. But the vox populi will apparently accept democracy if they get the promise of homes.


Mike Grouchy



posted on May, 16 2015 @ 02:16 PM
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It wasn't like they suddenly switched religion or anything, they just recognized Christ as Apollo ruling from Parnassus.



In 1645 "The Great Assises Holden in Parnassus by Apollo and His Assessovrs" was published in London. This book was obviously modeled after the Universal Reformation and, in this work, Francis Bacon, Lord Verulam, was listed as the Chancellor of Parnassus.

Curiously on the original Rosicrucian Manifesto, N.N. is listed as one of the Rosicrucian Brothers. In any case, whoever N. N. was, the gentleman took great liberties with the text of Boccalini's work. He was particularly original in his treatment of the 77th Advertisement. Apollo selects a committee to devise a plan for the reformation of human society, and N.N. Esquire lists the secretary for Apollo's committee as Sir Francis Bacon. Obviously, Bacon's Freemason compeers were still quite active in England at this time.


Sir Bacon



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posted on May, 16 2015 @ 02:17 PM
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From your link

She also acknowledges that they have a wisdom she lacks because of their great age. But Athene, too, possess a great wisdom, different from that of the Furies. She tells them that Athens will have a great future; if the Furies come to Athens as beneficiaries, as great goddesses who preserve peace and do good, protecting the country from the threat of civil war, then the Furies' days will be rich and beautiful.

The Furies may be the connection between West and East. I think I'll look up Kantzvelt's references to them.




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