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Obama: A private school education leads to "an anti-government ideology."

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posted on May, 14 2015 @ 04:18 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

That right there should tell anyone who cares to pay attention that the education system in this country needs overhauling badly.

Kids shouldn't be so horribly bored in school. I'm no Einstein (shut up, you...
), and school bored me silly.




posted on May, 14 2015 @ 04:46 PM
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Well .. the real face of Obama is slowly getting out..

You will see more and more remarks towards that direction that everyone who is different is evil.

Kill the diversity and you have the control.

What a Jack ass.



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 05:12 PM
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originally posted by: infolurker
Your kids should suffer for the common (socialist) good. We won't fix the public schools, we won't allow vouchers so your kids can go to private schools, our answer is to "dissuade" people from private schools so you can't avoid the failure.

When you promote Ignorance & Equal Failure, there is Equality.

Insanity.

www.realclearpolitics.com... .html

That quote was ridiculously out of context.. I watched the entire broadcast. It is long (need coffee). You leave out what he said before that and what the question was from the moderator.
All of the panelists talked about different times in US history. Obama answered a question in regard to dwindling opportunities for the poor and how to fix this (as all the panelists did and there was back and forth, mainly in agreement). In this case, Obama started this thread in regard to the state of the country about 30 years ago in smaller towns. He gave an example where the mayor of the town probably lived in close proximity to the high school janitor. He says that the 2 probably belonged to the same Rotary club and that if 1 had had a son and the other had a daughter, they might marry.
It was in regard to a much larger conversation on how opportunities have changed for the poor or working class up and down over the last century. A larger conversation that there is a place for the left (like) social programs as well as right (like) faith based and community groups to help put these opportunities back in place. He was not saying that private schools and clubs are are a modern reason for lack of opportunities for the poor or middle class. Also: Where did you get 'we won't allow vouchers'? They weren't even discussed.

If you haven't watched the broadcast, which included history, economics, social safety nets, investment in teachers, education, infrastructure and the roles faith and community based organizations might play in fighting poverty.....you should not comment until you have watched.





On Tuesday, President Obama participated in the Catholic-Evangelical Leadership Summit on Overcoming Poverty at Georgetown University in Washington. While many topics were discussed, including the media, the president addressed the impact children attending private schools have on the "opportunity" for other children.

PRESIDENT OBAMA: We don’t dispute that the free market is the greatest producer of wealth in history -- it has lifted billions of people out of poverty. We believe in property rights, rule of law, so forth. But there has always been trends in the market in which concentrations of wealth can lead to some being left behind. And what’s happened in our economy is that those who are doing better and better -- more skilled, more educated, luckier, having greater advantages -- are withdrawing from sort of the commons -- kids start going to private schools; kids start working out at private clubs instead of the public parks. An anti-government ideology then disinvests from those common goods and those things that draw us together. And that, in part, contributes to the fact that there’s less opportunity for our kids, all of our kids.


So, am I reading this right.

If I send my kid to private school for a better education then I am "ROBBING" opportunity from other kids. I am supposed to send my kid to "stupid school" so my kid has less opportunity for success?

What the hell is wrong with these people.

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posted on May, 14 2015 @ 05:19 PM
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originally posted by: macman
a reply to: infolurker

That Jackasses kids go to a private school.

He really is a massive turd.
The President's children have to go to private schools that can deal with security and work with the secret service. However, as in my answer to the OP, the quote was out of context and you need to watch the broadcast.



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 05:20 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: ColeYounger
I think it's ridiculous how whenever a hero of the liberal progressives says something improper, and then gets called for it, the ones who point out the impropriety are always accused of "taking it out of context".


Well sometimes it does happen, but I think it's fair to challenge that person to produce the quote in context and explain it.


I've been on this site for over 7 years, and with that experience, it wouldn't make a bit of difference. it'll only make a difference when you, or your own family get screwed over by the wealthy that run this country....by the way, both houses of congress just passed a bill that eliminates the inheritance tax...a 200 billion dollar hit to the budget....who do you think is going to make up for that???....the wealthy?.....get your wallets out, because the middle class and/or poor will pay, one way or another.



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 05:20 PM
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originally posted by: NthOther
He basically just told everyone, in no uncertain terms, what "public" schools are really all about, and have been since day one:

State loyalism. They are not concerned, at all, with the education of your children, and never have been.

All they want are "good Germans". And now it appears they've got their shaming campaign in full swing.

NO, he didn't.



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 05:21 PM
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Anyone got a good link to the discussion or better yet a transcript? The OP seems to be a bad link. I heard the "out of context" line on the radio on the way home, so I know it exists. I'm inclined to be incredulous about this but I'm going to hold out until I've at least heard the question the statement was an answer to and a bit of the dialogue.



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 05:21 PM
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originally posted by: seagull
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

a reply to: jimmyx

Mouth breathers? Really?

Because we dare to disagree with the premise of his speech? If that's not what he meant, he needs to fire his speech writer, or actually, maybe write his own.

But then you know that. This was just another not so veiled attack on those who dare to disagree with your take on things...

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.
It wasn't a speech.



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 05:22 PM
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Well, he's been misguided and lying from the word go.

I can't wait until this doofas is out of office. All the 'racial', 'class' and 'gender' crap he and his cronies serve up.

Recent example Michelle Obama said something about "Whites making things difficult" or some !@#$! crap like that.

Nice, "First Lady", nice.

Sick of them, their broken policies and the control over all wanted, yet not one ounce of responsibility for any of their statements or actions.

Sickening.



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 05:23 PM
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edit on 14-5-2015 by reldra because: (no reason given)
I SEE no one watched this panel discussion. It was interesting, yet long. A conservative site realclearpolitics..yeah real clear....picked out part of one answer in panel discussion that lasted about an hour and 45 minutes. Remind me to not read that website.
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posted on May, 14 2015 @ 05:23 PM
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originally posted by: flyandi
Well .. the real face of Obama is slowly getting out..

You will see more and more remarks towards that direction that everyone who is different is evil.

Kill the diversity and you have the control.

What a Jack ass.


oh c'mon, you can do better than that, tell us how you really feel....besides, there will be Hillary for your name-calling enjoyment, so you still have time to sharpen up the old rhetoric.



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 05:26 PM
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originally posted by: ColeYounger
I think it's ridiculous how whenever a hero of the liberal progressives says something improper, and then gets called for it, the ones who point out the impropriety are always accused of "taking it out of context".
Well, in this case......it's true. No one watched the entire broadcast. They went on a quote. From a panel of 3 people at 1 hour and 20 minutes in that was really 1/3 of the answer he gave a moderator that gave him 3 questions at one time.



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 05:31 PM
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a reply to: jefwane ENTIRE PANEL DISCUSSION

The quote is at about 1 hr and 20 min. It is worthwile to watch the preceding 20 min. At least the moderator's question.


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posted on May, 14 2015 @ 05:31 PM
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I guess Obama is technically correct.

Private schooling tends to generate more intelligent, well rounded students.

Being intelligent and well rounded tends to lead one to have "an anti-government ideology".

So I see what he's saying, but still...sheesh, I wish this guy would quit talking already.



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 05:33 PM
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originally posted by: MythMaster
I guess Obama is technically correct.

Private schooling tends to generate more intelligent, well rounded students.

Being intelligent and well rounded tends to lead one to have "an anti-government ideology".

So I see what he's saying, but still...sheesh, I wish this guy would quit talking already.

He never said that and I have given the link above.



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 05:34 PM
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originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: ColeYounger
I think it's ridiculous how whenever a hero of the liberal progressives says something improper, and then gets called for it, the ones who point out the impropriety are always accused of "taking it out of context".


Well sometimes it does happen, but I think it's fair to challenge that person to produce the quote in context and explain it.


I've been on this site for over 7 years, and with that experience, it wouldn't make a bit of difference. it'll only make a difference when you, or your own family get screwed over by the wealthy that run this country....by the way, both houses of congress just passed a bill that eliminates the inheritance tax...a 200 billion dollar hit to the budget....who do you think is going to make up for that???....the wealthy?.....get your wallets out, because the middle class and/or poor will pay, one way or another.


You think I haven't been screwed by them?

It's called Obamacare. It's called the tax increase we all got. Those are just the two examples I can think of at present.



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 05:35 PM
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a reply to: reldra

So did the president have to go to private schools? His own school in Hawaii was the most exclusive private school in the state. I don't notice that it made his develop an anti-government mentality.



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 05:38 PM
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originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: ColeYounger
I think it's ridiculous how whenever a hero of the liberal progressives says something improper, and then gets called for it, the ones who point out the impropriety are always accused of "taking it out of context".
Well, in this case......it's true. No one watched the entire broadcast. They went on a quote. From a panel of 3 people at 1 hour and 20 minutes in that was really 1/3 of the answer he gave a moderator that gave him 3 questions at one time.


reldra, I admire your fortitude on this, but they simply hate Obama, and the republicans have done everything they can to make this president fail, even when it was their own plan, and/or a detriment to this countries middle class or poor. wait till they start going after Hillary, you haven't seen anything yet.



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 05:40 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: reldra

So did the president have to go to private schools? His own school in Hawaii was the most exclusive private school in the state. I don't notice that it made his develop an anti-government mentality.

It didn't. That was 1/3 of one answer to one question and he was talking about small towns in the 1970s or earlier. He didn't go 'there'. If you haven't the attention span to watch the panel discussion, you won't know what questions to ask.



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 05:40 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: reldra

So did the president have to go to private schools? His own school in Hawaii was the most exclusive private school in the state. I don't notice that it made his develop an anti-government mentality.

It didn't. That was 1/3 of one answer to one question and he was talking about small towns in the 1970s or earlier. He have to, his parents sent him? If you haven't the attention span to watch the panel discussion, you won't know what questions to ask.
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