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Obama: A private school education leads to "an anti-government ideology."

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posted on May, 17 2015 @ 02:45 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: TinfoilTP

You are looking at it through a lens of haves and have nots.
I am looking at it in the context of what he was talking about.



The people who choose to go private schooling do so because the public schooling is detrimental to their advancement but he portrays them as the evil that holds back the masses.
So you agree with what I said then, it is not private schools which instill anti-government sentiments. It is the inadequacies of public education and a general anti-government attitude which makes people send their kids to private schools. Glad we cleared that up.


Yes, it is silly to say private schools instill anti government sentiments.
It is also silly to put all of these arguments in a framework that has an outcome of private schooling equal to a detriment to the general public, as the President has done here.




posted on May, 17 2015 @ 03:00 AM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP

Yes, it is silly to say private schools instill anti government sentiments.
You just said he didn't say that.




It is also silly to put all of these arguments in a framework that has an outcome of private schooling equal to a detriment to the general public, as the President has done here.

He didn't say it's an outcome of private schooling.

He said that income inequality and an elitist mentality is a detriment to the general public.


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posted on May, 17 2015 @ 03:14 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: TinfoilTP



It is also silly to put all of these arguments in a framework that has an outcome of private schooling equal to a detriment to the general public, as the President has done here.

He didn't say it's an outcome of private schooling.

He said that income inequality and an elitist mentality is a detriment to the general public.



Come on, he clearly alluded to the best student prospects going private from the ranks of the student body hurts the general population of students.
Do you think he meant just rich kids? He meant the kids with the strong healthy family backings with the greatest chance to succeed were being withheld from the poor kids to be examples for because the parents were choosing private schooling. Instead of fixing the public schools he demonized the private schools. You don't have to be super rich to be sent to private school just well enough off to choose to give your kid the best chance of success. He didn't offer an alternative other then to say the system is bad and all kids should be in the same boat if government is willing to force it. That reeks of socialism.



posted on May, 17 2015 @ 03:21 AM
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Do you think he meant just rich kids?
No. Just the kids of rich parents who are elitists.


And what’s happened in our economy is that those who are doing better and better -- more skilled, more educated, luckier, having greater advantages -- are withdrawing from sort of the commons -- kids start going to private schools; kids start working out at private clubs instead of the public parks.




You don't have to be super rich to be sent to private school just well enough off to choose to give your kid the best chance of success.
I know. I'm not super rich. But he wasn't talking about all the rich, he was talking about those who are not concerned about the general public and how those attitudes are passed on.



He didn't offer an alternative other then to say the system is bad and all kids should be in the same boat if government is willing to force it.
Can you point out where he said that? You really should read it all. I provided the link earlier.

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posted on May, 17 2015 @ 03:31 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Do you think he meant just rich kids?
No. Just the kids of rich parents who are elitists.


And what’s happened in our economy is that those who are doing better and better -- more skilled, more educated, luckier, having greater advantages -- are withdrawing from sort of the commons -- kids start going to private schools; kids start working out at private clubs instead of the public parks.




You don't have to be super rich to be sent to private school just well enough off to choose to give your kid the best chance of success.
I know. I'm not super rich. But he wasn't talking about all the rich, he was talking about those who are not concerned about the general public and how those attitudes are passed on.



He didn't offer an alternative other then to say the system is bad and all kids should be in the same boat if government is willing to force it.
Can you point out where he said that? You really should read it all. I provided the link earlier.


So now rich parents who are elitists are the enemy.....who defines this? If you ask a ghetto mother she would probably include everyone not in her ghetto.....or a blue collar worker everyone who has a job in an office building....hmmm this is likely to lead to some division instead of uniting for a cause would you agree? Way to go Mr President.



posted on May, 17 2015 @ 03:36 AM
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So now rich parents who are elitists are the enemy.....who defines this?
You didn't actually read what I wrote, did you? You certainly haven't read the whole piece.

That's ok, stick with a single sentence if it helps support that chip on your shoulder.



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posted on May, 17 2015 @ 03:11 PM
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originally posted by: Floydshayvious
I know this may be OT but I can't wait for 2016 so people calm the hell down and this site gets back to normal.

Or maybe it never will... this place is getting so ridiculous. All the entertaining/educational stuff is just buried by a mountain of red versus blue now.


I lurked on this site for years, and it was enjoyable to read most of what was being discussed. Now, the site has become a cess pool full of hatred, either it be bickering over inane political ideologies or racist vitriol.



posted on May, 17 2015 @ 04:22 PM
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originally posted by: infolurker
Your kids should suffer for the common (socialist) good. We won't fix the public schools, we won't allow vouchers so your kids can go to private schools, our answer is to "dissuade" people from private schools so you can't avoid the failure.

When you promote Ignorance & Equal Failure, there is Equality.

Insanity.

www.realclearpolitics.com... .html





On Tuesday, President Obama participated in the Catholic-Evangelical Leadership Summit on Overcoming Poverty at Georgetown University in Washington. While many topics were discussed, including the media, the president addressed the impact children attending private schools have on the "opportunity" for other children.

PRESIDENT OBAMA: We don’t dispute that the free market is the greatest producer of wealth in history -- it has lifted billions of people out of poverty. We believe in property rights, rule of law, so forth. But there has always been trends in the market in which concentrations of wealth can lead to some being left behind. And what’s happened in our economy is that those who are doing better and better -- more skilled, more educated, luckier, having greater advantages -- are withdrawing from sort of the commons -- kids start going to private schools; kids start working out at private clubs instead of the public parks. An anti-government ideology then disinvests from those common goods and those things that draw us together. And that, in part, contributes to the fact that there’s less opportunity for our kids, all of our kids.


So, am I reading this right.

If I send my kid to private school for a better education then I am "ROBBING" opportunity from other kids. I am supposed to send my kid to "stupid school" so my kid has less opportunity for success?

What the hell is wrong with these people.


I'm not American (nor do I wish to be), but given that the current American Government is Democrat (although many executive orders issed appears to be quite anti-democratic), it would seem like anti-Government would also include Republicans, Libertarians etc.



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