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originally posted by: FamCore
I wanted to open up a discussion on Iran with my ATS folks, since I've been very fuzzy on how and why Iran is such a threat to the U.S. (as we are told).
With this thought in mind, I just googled "Demonizing Iran", and found this blog post, which echoed my initial feeling about the subject:
The Recorder Article/Blog Post (it only allows you to view it once, otherwise you need a "subscription - sorry for a crappy source)
Anyway, we are constantly being told that Iran's nuclear program and potential for doing harm to the U.S. are great threats. It makes me think about countries all over the world which are probably saying the same things about the U.S., and with good reason to (look at all the military conflicts and other sketchy happenings the U.S. is responsible for all over the place).
But I really want to ask all of you what you know about the Iran/U.S. beef and what else may be behind it.
I have heard that Iran is one of the last few countries that is not going along with the rest of the world and the Banking Cartel, so I could see that as one solid reason behind the demonizing of Iran, but is there more?
I appreciate everyone trying to stay on topic and being respectful to one another - we don't need to bring up Israel unless it is necessary (I keep seeing commenters bring it back to Israel on unrelated topics, so if it's going to be one of those "But look at Israel, yada yada yada" arguments, please try to refrain unless it is directly related to the topic at hand. (Sorry if this sounds like a school lesson/teacher writing this right now, I've just been frustrated at thread drift and trolls lately).
IRAN = EVIL SCUM or what is really going on with this agitprop around Iran?
Thank you ATS - I love you guys! So many of you remind me why there is still hope for mankind (although we all have seen both ends of the spectrum on the forums I'm sure).
In America, currently, we have the worst government in our history.
originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: angeldoll
So does Iran have some major beef with Israel then? And if so, how did that come to be?
And why is America so invested in Israel's affairs? Is it just because of the political and financial connections our leaders have with theirs?
originally posted by: angeldoll
Is it not Israel that the U.S. is looking out for? The concern is not what Iran will do to the U.S. per se, but that it would use nukes against Israel, thusly drawing everybody else in; and by doing so effectively starting a world war.
The politics in Iran are very unstable and it is a highly emotional country. I agree they should not have nuclear weapons. The people are great.......... the rulers, not so much.
Even the piracy of a U.S. flagged ship and the retention of numerous U.S. citizens has created no significant response from Obama other than to escort U.S. and U.K. ships through the strait and then ordered those same U.S. ships to retreat if confronted by the Iranian navy!
originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: FamCore
the US should invade the US and win the hearts and minds of the population by building infrastructure and putting locals to work.
Irans only problem is that Chevron, Exxon and Haliburtons oil is under Irans dirt.