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Britain is too tolerant and should interfere more in people's lives, says David Cameron

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posted on May, 14 2015 @ 11:54 AM
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a reply to: Rocker2013
It ok we will still be protected under the Human Rights Act..... Oh wait.




posted on May, 14 2015 @ 11:54 AM
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a reply to: Rocker2013

NWO comes in many forms, you want what is a very well know fact that it exist at least when it comes to the economical links that we all share around the world?, remember the market crash of 2008? yes no even China was exempted of it.

So yes when it come to economic factors the NWO is well and alive.

Central banks rings a bell? those that control nations economies controls the world.


BTW I do agree with your other post at least most of it. No been a British citizens I do not know how people in Britain really feels about their local politics.


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posted on May, 14 2015 @ 11:59 AM
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a reply to: Rocker2013

Well gee sure, these proposals are solely aimed at extremists and in no way will the government target law abiding, peaceful Brits.
This couldn't possibly be a stealth bill that starts down a slippery slope now could it.
Over the last couple days the news coming out of Britain and this new government seems mostly Orwellian in nature and seems very worrying but hey, it's only aimed at extremists and terrorists right?

Come on man - open your eyes.



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 12:01 PM
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originally posted by: Rocker2013

originally posted by: MysterX
Worse...it's a global conspiracy in the works.

It's not about the UK, or the USA or Europe, nor Asia, Africa, S. America...it's about the entire world.


*sigh*

Please prove this to be the case.
Really, we see this notion suggested every day here on ATS but no one ever seems to be able to back up this notion of a "NWO global conspiracy" with any ACTUAL FACTS.


Actual facts...you're kidding surely?

Have you been asleep over the last several years or something matey?



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 12:03 PM
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a reply to: stargatetravels

I am sure that the US will lend the NSA to Britain until one such agency can be built, unless is already one and people have not idea is there already.



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 12:08 PM
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a reply to: marg6043


Oh no need - the UK has GCHQ which is just as invasive.
In CITIZENFOUR -The Snowden Documentary - he talked about GCHQ and how they were maybe as invasive, or more, than our NSA.
I'm sure they're probably linked and share data all the time.



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 12:08 PM
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originally posted by: stumason
As I said before when this cropped up, with a slim 8 seat majority and a sizable chunk of his backbench against this (Led by David Davis, a well respected Tory MP), I don't see this flying. They'll face a rebellion over it.

As for all the "Tories are evil" nonsense, it's just that. 13 years of Labour hardly did us any favours, but apparently they're the party we should have to look after us...

If I remember rightly blair tried his own patriot act and failed too.



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 12:09 PM
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I've got to be tolerant of Cameron and his ilk for the next 5 years probably longer. we certainly don't share the same values and I imagine our moral compasses are extremely different. I don't believe in riding the countryside with a pack of dogs in search of a small fox for the dogs to rip to pieces and I doubt Mr cameron would condone my use of medical marijuana to help ease my symptoms. Therefor I think I will follow my own values and morals rather than take any advice from Cameron on these issues



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 12:10 PM
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Darn we do need a UK forum I have no idea what GCHQ is or what it stands for it. Yes I'm also sure that a lot of intelligence is shared between agencies in the US and Uk.



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 12:12 PM
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originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: stargatetravels

Darn we do need a UK forum I have no idea what GCHQ is or what it stands for it. Yes I'm also sure that a lot of intelligence is shared between agencies in the US and Uk.



GCHQ are our NSA.

In fact the two agency's are very closely entwined and share most there resources.



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 12:15 PM
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a reply to: crazyewok

Is the British equivalent run by the private sector like the NSA? are they also into data mining for profits?

The NSA is mostly run by private interest, they also are for profits and as corrupted as it can be.



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 12:20 PM
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originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: stargatetravels

Darn we do need a UK forum I have no idea what GCHQ is or what it stands for it. Yes I'm also sure that a lot of intelligence is shared between agencies in the US and Uk.



It's in the pipline.

Llink to thread.



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 12:20 PM
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a reply to: marg6043

No - it is run by the Government.



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: crazyewok

Is the British equivalent run by the private sector like the NSA? are they also into data mining for profits?

The NSA is mostly run by private interest, they also are for profits and as corrupted as it can be.



No GCHQ is run and funded by the UK Government



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 12:28 PM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: crazyewok

Is the British equivalent run by the private sector like the NSA? are they also into data mining for profits?

The NSA is mostly run by private interest, they also are for profits and as corrupted as it can be.



No GCHQ is run and funded by the UK Government

They are both state run & funded but both also use private contractors. Differences' are mainly of size and culture.



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 12:40 PM
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Well thanks for the answers, I am glad that it will be a forum in the near future for Uk and global issues.

The NSA in the US is also run and funded by the government, but we have learned that is also run by private contractors and serve two purposes, collecting information from citizens for government use and also used as data mining for profits by the private sector

Highly unconstitutional but we all know that when it comes to money interest that is just a small problem that our so call secret court deal with, also unconstitutional.

So, the UK will be following the same steps, if the present ruling power gets away with making it into law or whatever they do to make laws in the UK, so the government already have the power to do it, at least under the table for now.



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 01:19 PM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: blupblup

What can I say?

What can anyone say when the phrase " I damned well TOLD you so!" ceases to be enough?




Yep - those who voted for these lot knowing that these kinds of measures were being readied and knowing the "pedigree" of this lot, well...what can you say eh?


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posted on May, 14 2015 @ 01:26 PM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
What is dave playing at??


This is the real Cameron. This is the way the Tories will rule. Don't say that you weren't warned!



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 01:33 PM
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Well both Parties are not without fault and it's not about being "evil" it's about priorities and where you make cuts and who you essentially target etc.. and The Conservatives ALWAYS target the poorest and rip apart public services and make thinsg better for the richest and are a party for the rich.

Some good things Labour did

Minimum Wage
Devolution
Tax Credits
Restoration of Free Entry to Museums & Galleries
Apprenticeships rose
EMA helped poorer students stay on in further education
Basically education in general got a great boost, placing t he UK among the biggest spenders in the world


Labour did not succeed in reversing the growing income inequality of the Tory years, but they slowed it by significant redistribution of income to the less well-off - mainly from middle income earners - while at the same time it rose in all developed countries, except possibly France. 600,000 fewer children were in poverty by 2010




Fewer people used private health services, despite rising incomes and the fashion for cosmetic surgery. Hospitals were cleaned up and became less infection-ridden. Waiting times fell. By 2009 the NHS was doing well in international comparisons, as it had in pre-Thatcher days, and was praised even by the IMF, not a known fan of socialised medicine. WHO declared English mental health services the best in Europe. The death rate fell by 17 per cent, particularly fast for circulatory diseases. The infant death rate halved. Life expectancy continued to rise, though social class differences remained. Smoking declined. Hospitals, health centres and other NHS buildings improved and became more welcoming.




Labour inherited a large public sector deficit from the Conservatives, true to form. On three of the four occasions since 1945 when the state ran a budget surplus, Labour was in office. In important ways Labour did ‘spring-clean the dilapidated state’ it inherited.


In fact the debt has increased under The Conservative Party more than it did in the 13 years of Labour.
Osbourne has borrowed more in 5 years than Labour did in 13.
It was about £750 Billion in 2010 and is now £1.5 Trillion... things are getting WORSE under the Tories.

But it's OK... because the rich are getting richer... the poor continue to suffer and enough people still believe the Lie that the Labour Party somehow managed to cause a Worldwide Global Financial Crisis... even though they didn't.

The Conservatives have done worse financially than Labour ever did.

But whatever.

Anyway....

Cameron and snooping.... Hmmmm

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posted on May, 14 2015 @ 01:37 PM
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Dragging it slightly OT there....

But a quick one about the debt and deficit... They inherited a deficit of £114 Billion in 2010, so unless drastic cuts were made, the debt would have balloned even further. The rate at which debt is increasing has slowed a lot and as a share of GDP, it is falling. The deficit itself has been cut by 46% against the target of 50% as well...

it's all very well whining about them making cuts, but they always get in on the back of Labour going mad with the credit card, so what would you have them do, carry on spending as if it was a limitless money tree?




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