If ET is real, They're not our saviors...

a reply to: Abavs

Relax. They will come when the time is right. And if you are getting scooped up it is to join their army as one of them.
No human will travel space, Unless on the mothership which is much like an artificial planet. However, the Fleet carriers/Destroyers. With their many pods only have specific crafts able to carry people. The war class pods are to small virtically to carry humans as they are not inded to. The War class pods are saucers, Which are extremely flat. So that they can be stacked against each other so as to fit as many as possible on the Fleet carriers/Destroyers.

Seeing how the war class pods/Saucers need not be Virtically large, because soldier class E.T are Energy beings able to compress their size. Some saucers have been modified to contain enough room for humans with TARDIS type technology which is larger on this inside than outside. Tho, There is far more war class saucers than saucers with the TARDIS technology.

Because the use of such technology is rather noisy and loud. Tracable. Enough that our government on Earth can detect them, well the War class tend to be cloaked most of the time tho both can remain cloaked. There is however enough TARDIS type saucers as well as pods to abduct a huge majority of the planet in 15 minutes by using Tube like fleet carriers that can land Virtically within cities along side sky-scrappers which thousands of pods, To make the trip from the towers to humans much more efficient. Tho, The Destroyers can do similar as well it is not as efficient as the destroyer class fleet carriers are more spreadout in a type of triangle like formation.

And no, not the destroyers from Star wars tho they look relatively similar yet different. The destroyer class look very similar to covenant ships from HALO.

But try to understand, when they do invade all of current society as we know it will end. Money, Daytime Television, All the stupid stuff people do daily for what they call *Occupations* like cutting down trees and being paid for it or clearing landscapes. Cutting grass lol. Making plastic, cars ect. Non of that will exist. They will impliment their society upon ours and humans will only exist to fullfill the role of scientific discovery, Engineering concepts, and reproduction from human to energy being. And society will revolve around that. It used to be this way 100,000s of thousands of years ago but humanity rebelled because many people didn't like the idea of seeing their loved ones being converted into energy beings and being sent off world for interstellar colonization, as well as intergalatic war effects such as defending existing colonies in other galaxies or recolonizing.

Space is endless in all corners and so are the many galaxies that exist, so this effort to colonize space and time is quite an infinite one which will continue forever indefenantly as the species exists. The forms of humans change according to the planet we colonize. We have the ability to teraform planets, but its much easier to invade already colonized planets as long as they don't have Advanced life living on it.

This once Jurassic dinosaur filled planet would of been inhospitable to our kind. So Dinosaurs and the like for the most part were annihilated with advanced weaponry docked on the destroyer class vessels. The Dinos where collectively incinerated, and the remainder were inflicted with a disease that would convert them into harmless birds such as the Avian flu which still exists today.

Our template came from Australopithecus, Which is why we are so similar to them genetically even enough to create offspring. Such offspring were known as Neanderthals. Which is why not everyone contain Neanderthal DNA because it isn't a requirement to generating humans, however human DNA is much stronger. And overtime any neanderthals were effectively breeded out. The rebel caused humanity to collectively lose its identity where we have been lingering for quite some time without our knowledge of our past and origins. Nearby E.T saw the colonizing efforts of our planet here of which we invaded. We Tera-formed a bit but for the most part we dominated this planet from the Dinos and large apes that lived here. Apes being the closest thing to humanoids so we used them as templates for our physical avatars.

Being an intergalactic species, Nearby flesh and blood beings have been quite interested in our makeup and the activities as well as technology we develop so have been abducting us to further prob our genetic secrets to create hybrids so the hybrids may develop black hole technology as well and be intergalactic instead of just interstellar. Because at some point, our galaxy will die, and just like the predicament of escaping a planet that will die sometime, same as our star. The Galaxy, the Milky-way will too die.

So to ensure their own survival they are probing our intergalactic species so that they can colonize other galaxies as well. Which we will never hand over willingly which has resulted in multiple wars against our species, triggering the human rebellion where we are the remnant of humanity that rebelled in the last great destruction. Humanity is millions of years old, but to prevent the outer species from probing our genetic secrets much of our maximum potential has been locked away in genetic locks to prevent the *Bad* aliens from learning our secrets.

The moment they prob us and gain the genetic information they want as well as technology is the moment they will attempt to destroy our colony which we cannot allow. And they will gain intergalactic travel, making them a threat to our colonization efforts in other galaxies. The presence of aliens hasn't been directly acknowledged by our governments such as disclosure because the E.T are actively fighting each other, which could present us with the option of picking sides, sparking another rebellion much like with Atlantis. The story of the Tower of Babel also stems as a carrying myth of this event that occured 10s of thousands of years ago as the most recent major war. Where the enemy was annihilated but at a great cost. They colonized interstellar planets in the milky-way so are difficult to remove and have returned because they cannot figure out intergalactic space travel * black hole technology*

There are only 2 species engaging our planet. The Greys, and the Shifters. The Greys are an autonomous species of borg like aliens controlled by an Artificial intelligence. Most *Life* able to travel through space is Computerized cyborgs. There isn't very much flesh and blood beings like ourselves on Earth traveling through space. Artificial intelligence Dominates many galaxies, as the species that created these borgs are typically wiped out by their own creations with ambitions for space colonization.

Similarly. likewise events could happen on Earth should we developed a sophisticated artificial intelligence however alien intervention would occur before we could even reach borg state ourselves. And if it ever did happen. Collective humanity would be mass abducted and the surface of the planet would be bombed again. To preserve the human species. Colonization of Earth will not end until Earth is no longer habitable and is beyond Tera-forming. To much time and effort has been spent on this scarred planet which has seen much.

a reply to: SLAYER69

More than Likely Any Intelligent Species that Ever Encountered Human Beings would come to the Logical Conclusion that Humans are a Species of Intelligent Life on Earth that can be Easily Exploited for their Unique Genetic Material , and for an Alien Life Forms Purpose of Creating Other Forms of Intelligent Creatures to suit their Agendas . A Comparison to that Ideal could be Cows being Raised for their Beef......

a reply to: SLAYER69

You make some very good points, but after years of hearing the arguments go back and forth (Demonic, angelic or some variant of those stances, indifferent, etc etc), I just don't care anymore what they want, as long as they show up. Even if they want to eat us alive and use up our resources or something, at least the 'is there anything going on' part of the argument will be over, and we might just get to pull out some hidden technologies and fight back in a badass showdown. No matter what, science would be advanced, an age-old question would be answered and so on. So bring it, aliens, whatever, whoever, just for the love of galactic goodies hurry up!

a reply to: SLAYER69

I tend to expect it to go like some have commented before when the Spanish conquered the New World. They brought all kinds of bad with them. Even good intentions helped pave the road to hell. We should keep our guard up and not assume anything and be wise in all matters of dealing with a possible ET.

Watched Jupiter Ascending the other night, without ruining it, the plot is Aliens seeded life on Earth and many other planets, and maintained these seeded races,

Until they are ripe for harvest for genetic material which in turn is made into a life extending, youth substance. (100 humans into every bottle, (guaranteed!!!)

The film was done by the same people who made the Matrix, and has many nods to biblical myths and stories, and the occult - just like the matrix.

Washington National Airport Sightings, was a series of unidentified flying object reports from July 12 to July 29, 1952, over Washington, D.C.

en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: FlyingFox
Washington National Airport Sightings, was a series of unidentified flying object reports from July 12 to July 29, 1952, over Washington, D.C.

en.wikipedia.org...

This site has some very good info on those events. I remember reading here that there was some good speculation put forth that Eisenhower had a jet with a nuclear missile attached flying above DC with orders to fire on it. I may be misremembering part of this.

What value could we possibly have to any ET civilization?

Natural resources?
NO....resources are abundant and available across the galaxy.
Whatever they need, water, metal ore, radiactive materials,
diamonds, gold, whatever your imagination can come up with
is already present and available for the taking all across the
galaxy, (or universe--just in case your ET's are really badass
in the locomotion department).

Knowledge?
Hardly...especially as a resource. They're certainly not going
to be visiting Earth so they can hook up to wifi and get information
on how to repair a lawnmower...or calculate the circumference
of a circle...

Food?
I know its been done before on the Twilight Zone, but yes...
that is a possibilty. We humans, and everything else alive
on this planet could be on the menu. As unlikely as it is
that our biological systems would sync up enough with
ET's to make us viable food stuffs for them, you can't rule
this out. Everything we know about our planet's biology tells
us that life consumes life to survive...which gives a new
meaning to the term "blue plate special".

So...maybe we're food, but I doubt it.

It is more likely IMO that ET would see us as a study
subject. As sort of "Earthlings 101". An interesting study of a
sentient life form's struggle to overcome their natural
instinct to kill and conquer...something they must surely
have struggled with themselves, if survival of the
fittest is a universal law.

Or perhaps, we would be sought after pets....

BUT, IMO...the most valuable ability that we possess that
an ET might avail himself of is our labor. With our digitally
adept hands and crude intelligence we woud make excellent
slaves...

a reply to: rival

What if Earth was originally some sort of Ark of life and we were supposed to be it's stewards?

Earth has had a vast array of life forms throughout it's history and in all it's varying environmental settings. I'm sure some would be adaptable to various conditions that we humans wouldn't be naturally on other planets.

a reply to: AnuTyr

Please tell me how you came up with this huge textwall. Are you a sci-fi author? Then hats off, you are good one, and it shows you have knowledge in many fields. I also remember the long text recently about an alternative society system, which I mostly agree with. How come you are claiming all these things, as if they were the absolute truth?

I still think HE who SHALL NOT B E NAMED is correct on us being the 5th iteration of humanity on this planet. The last generation screwed up and reseeded us and forgot about us except for the restriction on entry to our area of space. Were their closest source of pure human dna.

Man is so ignorant of his place in this universe.

Could you imagine an advanced alien race who could exploit us just as easily and remorselessly as we do poultry and cattle?

There have been objects recorded by SOHO flying next to the sun that are larger than Jupiter. Able to disappear in an instant, and move distances in three seconds that would take us three years... What inhabitants could it possibly hold? Perhaps a similar race as ours who outnumbers us 1 billion to 1? Or maybe their shortest member is taller than the empire state building?

As far as theories and speculation go, I think H.P. Lovecraft may have come closer to the true nature of our place than anyone would care to imagine...

originally posted by: Gh0stwalker
Man is so ignorant of his place in this universe.

Could you imagine an advanced alien race who could exploit us just as easily and remorselessly as we do poultry and cattle?

There have been objects recorded by SOHO flying next to the sun that are larger than Jupiter. Able to disappear in an instant, and move distances in three seconds that would take us three years... What inhabitants could it possibly hold? Perhaps a similar race as ours who outnumbers us 1 billion to 1? Or maybe their shortest member is taller than the empire state building?

As far as theories and speculation go, I think H.P. Lovecraft may have come closer to the true nature of our place than anyone would care to imagine...

CTHULU TREK!!!! FTHHNGGH SHAGGOTH ASNAATH!

originally posted by: Gh0stwalker
Could you imagine an advanced alien race who could exploit us just as easily and remorselessly as we do poultry and cattle?

Man, that explains a lot. In fact this comparison is awesome.

It's like when cows go to the butcher, and only very few figure out what will happen to them. In rare cases a strong bull breaks away and tries to flee (only to be killed later). But then there are animal rights activists, trying to safe cattle. Their actions are but small raindrops on hot sandstone.

Now just imagining humans are the cattle, and aliens the consumers. Every once in a while a human figures out the truth and tries to break away. But he's choked by the mass of conformists. But again, there are some alien activists fighting pro mankind, but their actions are again but small raindrops on hot sandstone.

The same issues, just a dimension higher...

originally posted by: Snarl
What do we have ET would want? I can think of nothing extraordinary.

I could see some intelligent civ sending a probe ... but a biological entity?

Nope. No buy-in from Snarl.

This planet has the rarest treasure there is , life

Forget water minerals gold ect

All those things are abundant in the universe on other planets asteroids moons and the like. But earth is teeming with life in millions of species in the cosmic soup. Unlike most planets we are host to so much DNA that can be used for many things. From what we gave gathered it appears these visitors are mostly interested in our DNA and are creating hybrids. And this may be the answer as to why we evolved to todays human's as we understand it ... With a little manipulation in our DNA strand some hundreds of thousands of years ago. And there may have never been a missing link at all hence we are part ET or a variety of ET species infused with primate. But i digress , ok creationists and darwinians let me have it

Also Greys are AI or "drones" artificial biological entities of some sort not fully biological according to abductees. So you may have answered your own question.

Why are you suggesting that extraterrestrials agreed to be our saviors in the first place?

originally posted by: anotherdaytoday

originally posted by: Gh0stwalker
Could you imagine an advanced alien race who could exploit us just as easily and remorselessly as we do poultry and cattle?

Man, that explains a lot. In fact this comparison is awesome.

It's like when cows go to the butcher, and only very few figure out what will happen to them. In rare cases a strong bull breaks away and tries to flee (only to be killed later). But then there are animal rights activists, trying to safe cattle. Their actions are but small raindrops on hot sandstone.

Now just imagining humans are the cattle, and aliens the consumers. Every once in a while a human figures out the truth and tries to break away. But he's choked by the mass of conformists. But again, there are some alien activists fighting pro mankind, but their actions are again but small raindrops on hot sandstone.

The same issues, just a dimension higher...

The wolves go unoticed in the hen house despite all the missing chickens.

They have social engineered us and to think what they want us to think no thanks to greedy slimey humans helping them. But then again it is better we never know the truth. It would be a disservice to disclose the truth that we are lab rats at the mercy of these beings. Just imagine going through life knowing we are chickens on this farm called earth.

Thousands of people vanish in thin air each year , no bones no remains just "poof" gone !

The numbers do not lie

Some aliens are indeed here to save us.

Some aliens are here to save us from more hostile alien races, but they may be losing.

Other aliens are here to save us from ourselves, and they're doing that by selective breeding, hybridization, and genetic manipulation.

Some aliens want to eat us, some want own us, some already do.

Some aliens are completely indifferent and couldn't care less what happens to us, they are here for purely selfish reasons.

There are more types of greys than you might think, as well as dozens of other of alien races. According to one NATO whistleblower, there are over fifty different alien races our govt has catalogued in the past seventy years. Some so hideous that guards asked to guard them go mad from fear.

a reply to: SLAYER69

It doesn't make sense anyway that someone would come come from billions of miles away, more concerned than we are and telling us to clean up our earth for "our" own good. That's more ridiculous than me going over to my neighbors house, infiltrating his home without welcome and telling him how to clean up his home. It would not be a welcome gesture, I'm sure. Pretty much..go back to your planet and mind your own business.

There's a good reason against disclosure, people would understand the human race has been tampered with, even worse hybridized. People would freak out!