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If ET is real, They're not our saviors...

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posted on May, 14 2015 @ 12:06 AM
I don't think so there is any such thing. if there are any then why we haven't encounter them? these are just sci-fictions and we like the way it is represented in our movies and we would love it to b in movies only. imagine if they come on earth and fight with us do we have any chance of survivor???

posted on May, 14 2015 @ 12:37 AM
a reply to: SLAYER69

1 can understand your cautious view point SLAYER69 could it be as scenario like.

HUMANS we and many others from various cosmic and or dimensional (distant) locations have observed your mental and physical and ALSO Spiritual growth processes throughout your time of Creation. As well as many other CREATED...

We have observed some grow and destroy themselves with weapons and wars based on control, just to have to need OUTSIDE influences to come in and RESEED them...

You Humanity have had similar eras where mistakes of injustice and greed have taken you genetically down to the thinnest dna regeneration samples, due to wars BASED ON SPECIES IMMATURITY AND SPECIES SELF HATRED ACTS UPON YOURSELVES...
This left us with limited genetic samples used to "grow" you back in sustainable numbers. Where disease and immaturity wouldn't threaten your Existence here on this planet.

"WE" intervened before or tried to when your numbers grew.
But you had too many among you who were not about peace and tried to use your weapons of war against us...
So we saved as many as we could who were identifiable as INNOCENT - HUMBLE - and in LACK of SERVICE to SELF belief systems. And repopulated (where) now?

But why trying to help you we lost an unneeded number of our own. Not only to death transition / displacement but to the energies that capture Soul/Spirit/Internal Energies in this region for -Services to Self-
The energies that you humanity seem to not grasp that your malevolent acts feed...

So it is hard to assist you due to your material attachments and dis beliefs. Which allow them who feed on ignorance's opportunity to thrive off of you.
Some who may have had ability to disengage non terrestrial space craft with their Alien technologies present here (unknown to many humans)

Yet we still try.

If this SLAYER69 was a possible scenario and they were more less like-
Here is what can help your species survive and advance but it is up to you all to take what we give you and use it to support you all associated with your local species collective conscious not be greedy and support just some... But we cannot wait for you to mature (ITS UP TO YOUR COLLECTIVE WILLS) to mature as a species and care holders for a planet for we still have responsibilities AND MUST EVENTUALLY CARRY ON. Good luck this time... If you fail "WE" will be back if requested or required hopefully you wont destroy yourselves again or THIS -planet/habitat beyond short term cleaning to the point where your soul material will need reformed and replaced elsewhere which will require you new bodies or environment suits to suit your new home.

- then perhaps it really is up to humanity to be their own saviors or destroyers and they may be just trying to help why carrying on with their primary responsibilities-

Do we build weapons since we cannot trust one another as a collective
or do we collective as a species take care of all our selves educate ourselves more on religion science and the unknown. Which can prepare many for going cosmic bound long term and upgrade the minds enough to be ready to encounter the COSMIC FAMILY AS A MATURE SPECIES that overcame our fail issues of immaturity they all WATCHED and Witnessed over human development...


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posted on May, 14 2015 @ 02:59 AM
I think there can be intelligent beings similar to humans on other planets but like us they're still unable to travel to longer distances. All other alien theories are totally BS and we're better off with aliens visiting us.

posted on May, 14 2015 @ 04:19 AM
Why engineer a slave race using advanced genetics without limiting their capacity for free thought or their propensity for violence?
Doesn't really come across as advanced intelligence much.

Sitchin is fascinating but I think he's a conman personally.

posted on May, 14 2015 @ 05:26 AM
a reply to: SLAYER69
What are you trying to dive into the nutty world of alien conspiracy there slayer dude. The outer limits of the twilight zone. Oh boy are you in luck tonight, I totally feel like enlightening you to some of our star brothers out there.

according Zacaria Sitchin they enslaved us to do their bidding, We were manipulated genetically to a design they deemed optimize for the task they designated for us, presumably against our wills. Which if you believe everything some advocate makes us not as compatible physically with our home planet. Further, If true, Our former selves *which were probably closer to the Neanderthal, had bigger brains and were physically much more robust. For what?

Because they can. Basically they adapted humans after they gave them a bit of divine blessings. Its kind of what you would do to a pet, you know cut off the claws so they dont scratch the carpet, or if your female turn that wolf into a chewawa. There were house humans and there were the more feral nomad humans roaming around. Some of the house humans got the biggest treatment, total reconditioning and genetic subjugation, so much so that they would do anything for there gods. Some even liked to get high, so they would order there subjects to give them burn offerings, they got a sort of high from it and the combination of other elements together due to there physical makeup, kind of how humans get a high from certain plant smoke.

And you know, the whole burnt offerings was around even after they left, even the cults of it still were around for a long time. You know the whole sacrifice offerings and children offerings at the altar of the gods, they even genetically modified whole lines of females for that specific task. It was the cool thing to do back then, now though, only the pineal gland drug trade remains.

But you know the gods are many and they dont always agree with each other, some even felt pity for them and decided that human sacrifice was not necessary but other animal ones would do, truly an very godly god indeed. So well! Even that tradition continues. Here look at what this site has to say. Gives a new meaning does it not, especially to that whole Abraham and the almost sacrifice of his son because god says so. Now how many sane people do you know who will do that just because somebody said to? Pretty much everybody on this planet given the right circumstances or if there god said so right.

And for what gold? Sure why not, gold is supper shiny and pretty useful for certain things.
Leviticus 1:1-17

Yeah ok, here we have a supposed UFO battle that took place right over our very heads. ET fighting ET. That doesn't say "We come in peace" to me. Sure one could argue that there was a side defending us from aggressors but just as easily they could simply have been defending their cattle from poachers.

The good Shepards right.

Ever wonder why these ET are so sneaky when they abduct humans. Is it fear, lack of technology, or is it that they just dont want to be caught poaching because they would be slapped with a hefty fine at the least.

According to most if not all "AA" series premise they traveled Billions of miles, raped the Earth of resources, Enslaved us, genetically modified us, possibly fought battles over us and even set up elite groups of our own to help them do their bidding over the masses.

A lot of the ones which modified us are extinct now. Its a big pond out there, and sometimes you meet a bigger fish in your travels. But life goes on as always. Or maybe they signed over the deed to planet earth to a new landlord. Who knows eh.

Again, an advanced Alien race travels billions of miles to supposedly be brought down in a either a thunderstorm or by a newer high powered WW-II tech radar we were testing and they weren't aware we had. OR, They simply crashed and died. Not looking too omnipotent there my grey little buddies.

# happens you know. Last few million times before it because successful to shift dimensions they usually end up in the middle of a mountain or something, if not a star and those things are really hot. So as far as they are concerned that there is a great success. Especially concerning the whole technology trade, the more we use there tech the closer our vibrations get, eventually leading to more easily travel between dimensions. You see the universe is also effected by observer effect, so to change some things you need a mass influx on the observers of this universe to change there perspective lets say to the dimension they are from, shifting things around and stuff.

But you know there are different groups and not all of them favor dimensional travel, not all grays are grays either. Some are interdimensional being others are space puppets used for long distance travel by other races, and others are biocreatures who just look like that, even the maitra who are super psy dont even have hands or fingers, or at least nothing all that usefull, but they have mind beam power to get others to do things for them, so technically they dont need hands or fingers.

Whats with all the Anal probing? Are we just fodder for some intergalactic sex ring?

Nah that's just the grays, some of them are fascinated by the whole sex thing.

So is the sufficiently explainy for ya slayer dude? Or do you wish to know less by now. Ah dont take the internet so serious, jeez for all you know its all just made up stuff. Maybe you should return to your daily scheduled programing, or maybe this all is part of your daily scheduled programing, or maybe its all much ado about nothing.

posted on May, 14 2015 @ 07:16 AM

originally posted by: SLAYER69
UFO Battle 1561

Thanks for this. I didn't know about this event. Very convincing actually, even after researching the articles about it. Obviously there is someone else here on this earth. Maybe for hundreds or thousands of years. And I would not wonder if they are responsible for the decline of our society.

At the time this was observed, one can also dismiss rumors that today's UFO sightings are powered by "Area 51 dark projects", because at that time it didn't exist. Very helpful hint indeed.

It confirms that people in ancient times did not only speak in metaphors, but they actually did encounter beings with flight vehicles, whom they called gods or whatever. Anyways, I agree that these ETs or humanlike beings can't be that benevolent. They (UFOs) have been seen throughout the centuries (even if only sporadically), and still appear every once in a while.

But the point is: they have always been here. They were here in the past and they are still here in the present. Now I'm sure of it. And what did they do for mankind? Nothing. At least nothing for the better. Did they introduce the money system, debts and all this sh#t? Do they pull the strings behind our backs, influencing high politicians etc.? Are they responsible for the exploiting earth? I don't know, but it can be. Obviously they have no interest in a paradise for mankind here. And obviously they have flight vehicles which allow them to move away (to other planets) after everything has been destroyed.

posted on May, 14 2015 @ 08:31 AM
Let's say you were short in Uganda and made child he looks like a local but blood your , you have a lot of business far away , you can not visit in person but help with money, with mail sending gifts, gives advice, your child smarter and richer than their peers he is cheating operates rob and kills , gives money at interest and if they riot you came and saved him and burned the whole village
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posted on May, 14 2015 @ 12:18 PM
a reply to: ParasuvO

Must've been not us. None of us have any clue what we're looking for....including me. Then you threw in the religious card....see? You're clueless as well to a simple reply to someone else's thoughts.

If that was hard for you to understand...that stresses my point that we all have, none, zero, zip, of any idea of what to even look for.

They could be anything anywhere looking like nothing we can describe or understand...including me.

posted on May, 14 2015 @ 01:55 PM
extenSION passed 6,000 years and 200 generations , of your descendants already a billion, all the tribes of Uganda except 3 led by your descendants. you it extraterrestrial civilization and Uganda it the planet earth

posted on May, 14 2015 @ 04:22 PM
A species so advanced that they can genetically change our DNA and yet they create humans to do their work????? Lazy humans?? Nah not buying it. My theory is we have lived on Mars and on Venus. When the time comes we migrate from planet to planet.

posted on May, 14 2015 @ 04:49 PM
a reply to: SLAYER69

I have a different position on this subject. Allow me to play Devil's advocate.

Aliens have different motives and dispositions. They run the full spectrum, just like humans. Are they present? Use your imagination
. Saviors for humans? Should they liberate humans from their perpetual travail? Why should they? What benefit does a highly advanced collective procure in lieu of a hypothetical intervention?

To another transcendent civilization, Humans would rouse next to no interest, outside of entertainment or pure philanthropy. An interstellar cultures has already mastered the "atom", along with all the perks that exponentially transpire henceforth.

They don't need your resources. They don't need your DNA. They don't need your livestock. They don't need your planet. All of that speculation is vaporous. You gasp at the wonders of 3D printers? You haven't seen nothing yet. In addition, if they did look to acquire such momentoes, there is no remote chance your charming tech would render their presence empirical. America possess trinkets that have broad analytics and monitoring, the size of a shoe fly. What do you suppose star-farers employ? Lol, once again use imagination. Just remember, science doesn't scale mutually exclusive, encapsulated from its academic liaisons. Parallel evolution is immanent.

This doesn't detract from sightings, abductions, or claim of. This just denotes further review and visit. No pun intended. A better explanation is your own mischievous humans playing dress-up. Foreign tech was forfeit throughout history. It was only a matter of temporal passage, until revelation. Humans beget humans.

Just a theory.

posted on May, 14 2015 @ 04:57 PM

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: Stormdancer777

originally posted by: Ancient Champion

originally posted by: Stormdancer777

originally posted by: Ancient Champion

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
a reply to: SLAYER69

They are only here to save a few the rest of you get the fire and brimstone, plagues, death and destruction, angels are tough cookies.

Yes spoken like a person of peace.

LOL, that's what it says, I didn't write it, lol

No but man did, keyword man and not god.

Then there is no point discussing this topic, if we don't compare the alien theories to the Biblical sources,

Like Ezekiel.

Yes, I believe they were in contact with something.

Do you think that the 4 faces, the lion, the bear, the eagle and man, were extraterrestrial beings? Couldn't they have been terrestrial beings, since the 4 faces were earthling faces? What about contact with fairies, elves, hobbits, trolls, etc., that tons of people, throughout the ages. claim to have seen and even communicated with?

On the other hand, Ezekiel's account could have been nothing more that a shroom trip.

it Reprisents their Shapeshifting abilities, And how they can change between any many animal like forms without showing their true form.

Like the Sphinx, Which is part Man, Part Lion, Part bull, And eagle.

19 The burden of Egypt: “Behold, Yahweh rides on a swift cloud, and comes to Egypt. The idols of Egypt will tremble at his presence; and the heart of Egypt will melt within it. 2 I will stir up the Egyptians against the Egyptians, and they will fight everyone against his brother, and everyone against his neighbor; city against city, and kingdom against kingdom. 3 The spirit of Egypt will fail within it. I will destroy its counsel. They will seek the idols, the charmers, those who have familiar spirits, and the wizards. 4 I will give over the Egyptians into the hand of a cruel lord. A fierce king will rule over them,” says the Lord, Yahweh of Armies. 5 The waters will fail from the sea, and the river will be wasted and become dry. 6 The rivers will become foul. The streams of Egypt will be diminished and dried up. The reeds and flags will wither away. 7 The meadows by the Nile, by the brink of the Nile, and all the sown fields of the Nile, will become dry, be driven away, and be no more. 8 The fishermen will lament, and all those who fish in the Nile will mourn, and those who spread nets on the waters will languish. 9 Moreover those who work in combed flax, and those who weave white cloth, will be confounded. 10 The pillars will be broken in pieces. All those who work for hire will be grieved in soul. 11 The princes of Zoan are utterly foolish. The counsel of the wisest counselors of Pharaoh has become stupid. How do you say to Pharaoh, “I am the son of the wise, the son of ancient kings?” 12 Where then are your wise men? Let them tell you now; and let them know what Yahweh of Armies has purposed concerning Egypt. 13 The princes of Zoan have become fools. The princes of Memphis are deceived. They have caused Egypt to go astray, who are the cornerstone of her tribes. 14 Yahweh has mixed a spirit of perverseness in the middle of her; and they have caused Egypt to go astray in all of its works, like a drunken man staggers in his vomit. 15 Neither shall there be any work for Egypt, which head or tail, palm branch or rush, may do. 16 In that day the Egyptians will be like women. They will tremble and fear because of the shaking of Yahweh of Armies’s hand, which he shakes over them. 17 The land of Judah will become a terror to Egypt. Everyone to whom mention is made of it will be afraid, because of the plans of Yahweh of Armies, which he determines against it. 18 In that day, there will be five cities in the land of Egypt that speak the language of Canaan, and swear to Yahweh of Armies. One will be called “The city of destruction.” 19 In that day, there will be an altar to Yahweh in the middle of the land of Egypt, and a pillar to Yahweh at its border. 20 It will be for a sign and for a witness to Yahweh of Armies in the land of Egypt; for they will cry to Yahweh because of oppressors, and he will send them a savior and a defender, and he will deliver them. 21 Yahweh will be known to Egypt, and the Egyptians will know Yahweh in that day. Yes, they will worship with sacrifice and offering, and will vow a vow to Yahweh, and will perform it. 22 Yahweh will strike Egypt, striking and healing. They will return to Yahweh, and he will be entreated by them, and will heal them. 23 In that day there will be a highway out of Egypt to Assyria, and the Assyrian shall come into Egypt, and the Egyptian into Assyria; and the Egyptians will worship with the Assyrians. 24 In that day, Israel will be the third with Egypt and with Assyria, a blessing within the earth; 25 because Yahweh of Armies has blessed them, saying, “Blessed be Egypt my people, Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel my inheritance.”
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posted on May, 14 2015 @ 05:01 PM
Also, it occurs to me, as long as we're assuming and making asses of us all, that the "quantum many-verse" theory is the most intelligent guess I've heard, so far... as far as known theory, anyway.

As UFOs and other paranormal weirdness is almost invariably linked together, and some of the apparitions seen don't make sense in the Victorian spiritual sense (people seen who are wearing clothes and look surprised to see the "living" as if the living were the ghosts, copies of living people, mundane scenes superimposed over our reality, weird critters that appear and disappear, holes in the air that expel or escape critters, places that suddenly morph into other places, military activity in the weird areas seen, etc., etc) then the arena of quantum physics offers some possibilities.

Perhaps we do bump around possible universes and certain areas have "thin" areas between "branes" where access to other realms can be made... the old wormhole interstate ... of course, then it gets weirder and other worlds with higher tech that can access other realms comes into play... explaining some of the past/present technological UFOs, and a no past or future- just a now idea... perhaps when death occurs in one place, the intelligence jumps to another realm and continues, etc.

And some of the tech seen could well be our own black ops mixed with intrusions from other realms...

Pretty sci-fi seeming, but when all the various, serious, utterly weird data is perused, this road seems the fastest to "Answerville."

I've always rooted for some brave physicist (outside of possible black ops endeavors) to investigate the "paranormal" in a serious, well funded, open manner... we may not have the philosophy to crack it completely, but it is the only way to start as far as I see it.

posted on May, 14 2015 @ 05:50 PM
Saying they will not save us and that they are all violent or out for their own good....

That's like saying all humans are the same.

Yin and Yang is universal..

posted on May, 14 2015 @ 06:24 PM
We are tasty snacks for aliens

posted on May, 14 2015 @ 06:33 PM

originally posted by: Q33323
We are tasty snacks for aliens

Well we ARE made of MEAT....

posted on May, 14 2015 @ 06:46 PM
Although these guys may not be our saviors there’s no proof their the devil incarnate either.

Even though many serious researchers think this

FINAL EVENTS and the Secret Government Group on Demonic UFOs and the Afterlife

The fact is we don’t know for sure only have opinions

Nothing wrong with that

But its wise, Imo, not to argue to much and make this like we do religion

Sitchin, Ancient aliens, and all this is just theory.

I listen to all reasonable theories and respect them

Here's an interesting one by one of my favorite researchers and theorists, John Keel

Operation Trojan Horse: The Classic Breakthrough Study of UFOs

I also like Timothy Good, more researcher than theorist, I’m reading one of his books right now.

posted on May, 14 2015 @ 08:02 PM
a reply to: SLAYER69

I agree, at least some EBE species definitely do not appear to be our saviours.

The possibility of ongoing ET interaction is a hugely important topic, it has significance for the whole present and future human race.

If it is happening, it would be so important, that we should ASSUME it is happening and progress from that assumption.

But certain nitwits treat the subject as if we are discussing the existence of Nessie or unicorns - whose existence or lack thereof really doesn't matter, except to small impressionable children.

If you doubt the assertion of the OP, check out this video, the speaker's conclusions are chilling:

posted on May, 14 2015 @ 08:19 PM
a reply to: SLAYER69

Okie dokie, As much as I would love ET, ALIENS, reptilians, Grey's or what have you out there come get me off this skewed up planet, ITS NEVER GONNA HAPPEN. NEVER NEVER NEVER. For the past 15 years I have asked, preyed and wished for a way off this planet to another planet that has not suppressed evolution and has not robbed the individual of its dignity and self worth. But lately I have come to except I am stuck here just like everyone else. NO ET is coming to save ME or us. Think of earth as a prison planet that even if you do manage to get off this planet, leaving it's outer orbit will surely kill you from Mass Gamma Radiation. So with that being said, we may as well play the mundane capitalist game and screw over everyone we can. Live rich, good health and conquer each other. I have watched pretty much every UFO/ Alien/ Secret base documentary on YouTube and im telling you now. As much as it is interesting it has not brought me any closer to making contact. It just gives me leverage over those who are religiously ignorant. Remember this quote, NEVER FORGET IT. "THOSE WHO KNOW SHALL NOT SPEAK, THOSE THAT SPEAK DO NOT KNOW"

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posted on May, 14 2015 @ 09:10 PM
Aliens from far away and capable of traveling here within reasonable amounts of time would probably know revealing themselves now or helping us technologically would lead to our destruction. I would bet anything we have been visited and maybe in the past there was some contact but our global society today would go, "bat $#it crazy" if ET landed and said they wanted to help.
I am a gambler at heart and if I had to bet, I would say our planet is under quarantine and off limits to et's out about in their space yachts.
Would you go to the Andaman islands and visit the hostile tribe that's never been contacted before?
We have to accept the fact we are sill a level 0 species lol, not even level 1 yet.

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