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Louisiana Politician Accuses Scientists of Burning Dissenters Alive:

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posted on May, 13 2015 @ 12:09 AM
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Louisiana GOPer claims ‘scientists’ burned heretics —
Dem smacks him down with DeGrasse Tyson quote



In a debate in the Louisiana Statehouse over a bill to repeal a law that allows creation to be taught side-by-side with evolution, a lawmaker made a bizarre claim that in the old days it was “scientists” who burned heretics alive.

His comments were met with incredulity, stunned looks, and a fellow lawmaker correcting him before quoting astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson.

According to the Friendly Atheist, State Senator Elbert Guillory (R) was attempting to make the case for teaching “both sides” in the evolution/creationism debate when he provided a convoluted version of the history of scientific controversies.

“There was a time, sir, when scientists thought that the world was flat. And if you get to the end of it, you’d fall off. There was another time when scientists thought that the sun revolved around the world,” Guillory explained. “And they always thought to ensure that anyone who disagreed with their science was a heretic. People were burned for not believing that the world was flat. People were really badly treated.”

Guillory added, that “Knowledge only grows when people can talk about and have this intellectual back-and-forth, this discourse, with all ideas on the table.”


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posted on May, 13 2015 @ 12:15 AM
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a reply to: Spider879

InsertFacePalmPicHereForMeCosICantSinceImOnAPhone.

Tsk tsk...



posted on May, 13 2015 @ 12:21 AM
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a reply to: Spider879

OMG! There was a time when there used to be sane republicans , what happened why are they trying hard to corner the market on batsht insanity , this guy is so disrespectful of his party's rank and file he can say what he said because he believed them stupid, The Dem have their share of crazies but for the most part they are kept in a clean basement where they can do no harm, pls rank N file GOPers get rid of those types, you used to represent hard nosed facts and figures get back to your roots pls.



posted on May, 13 2015 @ 01:11 AM
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Ah leave the old guy alone. His mind has most likely turned to slush from attempting to make sense of all the political, racial and religious struggles he has been through in his life. Possibly the only difference between him and me is that I'm smart enough to know I should not be in any positions of authority. Don't mock him, he's just befuddled. Just retire him. Put him out to pasture.



posted on May, 13 2015 @ 01:14 AM
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Isn't math, reading and spelling important anymore these days?



posted on May, 13 2015 @ 01:21 AM
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And they always thought to ensure that anyone who disagreed with their science was a heretic. People were burned for not believing that the world was flat. People were really badly treated.


As anyone on ATS would say, sources please.

Stupidity is not a hindrance in politics.



posted on May, 13 2015 @ 01:25 AM
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Those were some dark ages when scientists ruled the world.
Witches don't float. It's science, bitch.



posted on May, 13 2015 @ 01:31 AM
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a reply to: skunkape23

Science is a bitch, sometimes.


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posted on May, 13 2015 @ 01:31 AM
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originally posted by: rockintitz



And they always thought to ensure that anyone who disagreed with their science was a heretic. People were burned for not believing that the world was flat. People were really badly treated.


As anyone on ATS would say, sources please.

Stupidity is not a hindrance in politics.




But that's the thing though I am not sure if he is actually that stupid or he believes his supporters are, for in some corner of his mind he have to think..my supporters think I nailed this, and would be rewarded by more votes and love.
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posted on May, 13 2015 @ 01:33 AM
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Hey,hey hey,it's not like we're saying too many people would tip over Guam here...



posted on May, 13 2015 @ 01:45 AM
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a reply to: Spider879

Louisiana is part of the south. Believe it or not this guy probably does have a lot of supporters. Teaching creationism in school along side evolution is an on going battle to Christians in many States, particularly in that region of the US.


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posted on May, 13 2015 @ 02:02 AM
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a reply to: Spider879

He forgot to blame the scientists for causing the Earth to flood and wipe out 99.999% of our species.

Bloody scientists...when will they learn?



posted on May, 13 2015 @ 03:06 AM
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What is wrong with the gene pool in the US. The IQ of your politicians seems waaaayyyy below average, and you guys vote for these numpties!!!





posted on May, 13 2015 @ 03:46 AM
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originally posted by: flammadraco
What is wrong with the gene pool in the US. The IQ of your politicians seems waaaayyyy below average, and you guys vote for these numpties!!!



Guess it keeps them off welfare



posted on May, 13 2015 @ 04:58 AM
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Perhaps he could have used a different analogy, but in a sense he isn't wrong about how things seem now. For instance if one believes the climate does in fact change but that man is not the prime cause, you are then denigrated by Bill Nye and the rest of the climate scientist community. If one believes for any reason in a higher power, they too are subjected to denigration by evolutionist.

Its come to a point where it seems the scientific community has begun to resort to slander if you don't agree with them, which closes the door on discussion and debate in favor of "the science is in, because we say so".



posted on May, 13 2015 @ 11:57 AM
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originally posted by: IntroduceALittleIrony
Perhaps he could have used a different analogy, but in a sense he isn't wrong about how things seem now. For instance if one believes the climate does in fact change but that man is not the prime cause, you are then denigrated by Bill Nye and the rest of the climate scientist community. If one believes for any reason in a higher power, they too are subjected to denigration by evolutionist.

Its come to a point where it seems the scientific community has begun to resort to slander if you don't agree with them, which closes the door on discussion and debate in favor of "the science is in, because we say so".


But here is the difference science is not dogma, and is subject to change based off new evidence unless one is talking about stuff in quantum physics or mechanics where weird stuff actually happens, religions is no such thing and will take centuries if ever to admit error.



posted on May, 13 2015 @ 05:06 PM
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I wouldn't even know where to begin with this.

The scientists in those times DID beleive those things and DID denigrate other people who disagreed and ended up being right in the long run.

The key here has nothing to do with religion or science, most modern science is religion as well. It has to do with paradigmic faith. It doesn't matter whether your faith is religious based or science based, neither is superior to the other.

If you have faith based beliefs that are paradigmically based rather than from personal research and experience, then you are believing in a religion of sorts..

My belief is superior to yours because, Science... just isn't valid.

The same people said the same things about the center of the universe, flat earth and any number of things.

Until we can get to the crux of truth, that most knowledge is faith based, we won't get any where.

Jaden



posted on May, 13 2015 @ 05:23 PM
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originally posted by: IntroduceALittleIrony
Perhaps he could have used a different analogy, but in a sense he isn't wrong about how things seem now. For instance if one believes the climate does in fact change but that man is not the prime cause, you are then denigrated by Bill Nye and the rest of the climate scientist community. If one believes for any reason in a higher power, they too are subjected to denigration by evolutionist.

Its come to a point where it seems the scientific community has begun to resort to slander if you don't agree with them, which closes the door on discussion and debate in favor of "the science is in, because we say so".



At first I was under impression something was wrong with title, but since its politician in question, IQ is not required, but to belive to angry papa on the cloud IS required.

Now, ignorance as this post is in no way different then fossil that made those stupid remarks in op. My friend, key word in your post is BELIVE, you see, scientist don't belive, they use data and evidence, and from all scientist I know, all support evidence that we are main cause for both, rapid climate change as well for on going global extinction event.

Those are facts, but its free country, you can belive wolf really ate red ridig hood and hunter saved her.... But just remeber, belief does not make it real...[
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posted on May, 13 2015 @ 09:27 PM
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If scientists become radicalized and Start a purge on religion whatever conclusions they reached using the righ approach are still going to be correct unlike whatever jews and its successors cooked up.



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 03:45 AM
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originally posted by: Masterjaden
I wouldn't even know where to begin with this.

most modern science is religion as well.

Jaden


Science has done far more to both explain the world around us and help us improve our condition than millennia of religion. It's not surprising that some religious believers resent this and among their response is to deny that science is any different from religion.

The most common and fundamental characteristic of religion is belief in supernatural beings — usually, but not always, including gods. Few religions lack this characteristic and most religions are founded upon it. Does science involve belief in supernatural beings like gods? No — many scientists are themselves theists and/or religious in various ways while many others are not. Science itself as a discipline and profession is godless and secular, promoting no religious or theistic beliefs.



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