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"Senate Democrats Knock Down Obama's Trade Bill" Obama bows to the rich on his way out!

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posted on May, 12 2015 @ 10:34 PM
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originally posted by: c0gN1t1v3D1ss0nanC3
a reply to: undo

I like to think of the R in Team R standing for retard...and the D in Team D for douche.



le mew, le sigh, le HELP ME OBI WAN KENOBI or something like that.




posted on May, 12 2015 @ 10:39 PM
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a reply to: undo



just cause china has a communist government


My point exactly. China does not have a communist government and they are doing very well because they have "capitalized" on the stupid consumer country that is America.

Everything seems to come from China and that is because they have perfected the capitalist model.



posted on May, 12 2015 @ 10:40 PM
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Those that are for the TPP are Anti American Anti Constitutional traitors that put them and their masters first over the best interests of the nation.

We saw what a disaster NAFTA has been for all countries involved except for the wealthy elite, this will be worse.

www.monitor.net...
NAFTA Created Decade Of Disaster For Mexico, Two Studies Find



While foreign direct investment in Mexico led to the creation of 500,000 manufacturing jobs from 1994 to 2002, the country lost at least 1.3 million jobs in the agricultural sector alone, where one-fifth of Mexicans still work, adds the document.

Hence, the influx of cheap illegal labor rushing to the US

The report says that the real wages of most Mexicans today are lower than they were when NAFTA took effect. "Despite predictions to the contrary, Mexican wages have not converged with U.S. wages."


www.commondreams.org...
NAFTA's Disaster at 20: State of the North American Worker



First, it caused the loss of some 700,000 jobs as companies moved their production to Mexico, where labor was cheaper.

Second, NAFTA strengthened the ability of U.S. employers to force workers to accept lower wages and benefits.

Third, NAFTA drove several million Mexican workers and their families out of the agriculture and small business sectors, which could not compete with the flood of products—often subsidized—from U.S. producers.

Fourth, and ultimately most importantly, NAFTA created a template for the rules of the emerging global economy, in which the benefits would flow to capital and the costs to labor.




We need to get the financial criminals and their cronies out of DC.



posted on May, 12 2015 @ 10:42 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: undo



just cause china has a communist government


My point exactly. China does not have a communist government and they are doing very well because they have "capitalized" on the stupid consumer country that is America.

Everything seems to come from China and that is because they have perfected the capitalist model.


nope, they are not capitalizing on the stupid consumer country, they (the chinese) are going broke and don't even know it. the globalists have had many centuries to perfect their craft. they (the chinese) aren't dealing with americans, they are dealing with diabolical globalist bastards.
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posted on May, 12 2015 @ 10:42 PM
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originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: Willtell

Obama is just republican lite. He was never a true Democrat his record has shown that repeatedly. Still it was better than Full flavor republican at the time.


Obama has always been a puppet of Wall Street and Crony Capitalists.



posted on May, 12 2015 @ 10:44 PM
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a reply to: undo

And that's why we supposedly owe China massive amounts of money as back debt and they are poised to create a new world currency with nations like Russia?

Please...we're going in to la-la land now.

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posted on May, 12 2015 @ 10:51 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: undo

And that's why we supposedly owe China massive amounts of money as back debt and they are poised to create a new world currency with nations like Russia?

Please...we're going in to la-la land now.



have you seen this? (can you not see youtube videos?)



they have spent/confiscated the world's gold. there's no gold in the federal reserve, not america's gold, not germany's gold, not japan's gold, etc. no one's gold is in the federal reserve. it's gone, all of it. they crashed the entire world in 2008, which drove many countries into instant poverty and joblessness. it even negatively effected china. it's just gonna take a bit longer to get the chinese set up for the big crash.



posted on May, 12 2015 @ 10:53 PM
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a reply to: undo

I have a bridge to sell you if you think the problems fall along "party lines"
Recall Goldman Sachs Lloyd Blankfein saying they are doing "God's Work"?

The same Goldman Sachs along with the other Big Wall Street Banks that donate heavily to both parties as well as the big Multinational Nationless Corporations?

The God's Work he was referring to was this Globalist Utopia they are building where the top elite enjoy the spoils and everyone else is a serf serving them.

There is no nationalism or constitution where the country comes first in their vocabulary.

A world where the tax payers, pay for global, not national defense for their benefit.

A world where 6 billion workers compete under market forces they control and reap the benefits from.
Market Forces is for the little people, making the market forces is for the elite.
Expect to here the maxim coming soon from the elite cheerleaders, if you can't compete with Pakita in India making a dollar a day, then you deserve to die.


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posted on May, 12 2015 @ 10:55 PM
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a reply to: undo

The Blaze?

Please don't waste my time.

Come back to me when you actually find some informative sources.


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posted on May, 12 2015 @ 11:04 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

You do realize this doesn't have a damn thing to do with most of those Democrats wanting to protect America or lash out at the wealthy (themselves... LMAO), right? They blocked it because they want a lumped together bill that includes the African Growth and Opportunity bill (which shifts jobs from America to Africa), the Customs provision which will prevent China from artificially preventing the Federal Reserve from destroying the value of the dollar by forcing China to devalue the dollar the more dollars are printed, and a provision to block imports made with "forced labor." None of this protects the American worker and as soon as they're put back on the floor alongside the TPA, the Democrats will line up like the good little puppets they are and join the rest of DC in voting 'yea'.



posted on May, 12 2015 @ 11:10 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: undo



just cause china has a communist government


My point exactly. China does not have a communist government and they are doing very well because they have "capitalized" on the stupid consumer country that is America.

Everything seems to come from China and that is because they have perfected the capitalist model.


Sorry, this is incorrect.

Look up China State Owned Enterprises.
SOE accounts for the majority of all the big companies in China

en.wikipedia.org...

The economy of China is dominated by State-owned enterprises (SOE). These are companies owned by the local, provincial, and national governments.
Central government SOEs

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posted on May, 12 2015 @ 11:16 PM
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a reply to: jacobe001

of course i don't think it falls along party lines. beck is not a republican, anymore, from what i can tell, and besides that, if he's right about our gold, the federal reserve system stole our nations gold, right out from under us. not because they needed it, but because that's the big plan = crash the world so badly, we all demand our respective governments support us = global communism.



posted on May, 12 2015 @ 11:20 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: undo

The Blaze?

Please don't waste my time.

Come back to me when you actually find some informative sources.



so you don't think the "capitalists" of wall street, those dastardly central bank guys, stole the gold in the federal reserve vault? then explain why they couldn't send germany back its gold as soon as they asked for it, and when they did start, the only sent a tiny portion and it had been melted down and recast.

tell you what i'll stop wasting my time, if you think that sounds normal to you.



posted on May, 12 2015 @ 11:21 PM
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a reply to: undo

And get chipped further down the line for our [their] on safety.
They have to keep track of their slaves and any that wish to revolt.

Just turn their chip off



posted on May, 12 2015 @ 11:24 PM
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originally posted by: jacobe001
a reply to: undo

And get chipped further down the line for our [their] on safety.
They have to keep track of their slaves and any that wish to revolt.

Just turn their chip off


eek, hey do you know any ETs to get us off this rock before they turn the whole place into a hellhole ?
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posted on May, 12 2015 @ 11:58 PM
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From this you'll see that these Dems really do support the TPP:



"Until there is a path to get all four bills passed ... we will, certainly most of us, have to vote no," Wyden told reporters after meeting privately with about 10 Democratic senators generally supportive of trade legislation. Among them were Washington Sens. Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell.


Source explains more about "four bills".


Wyden, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Finance Committee, has been a key supporter of so-called "fast track" legislation that would lay out the terms for consideration of the pending Trans-Pacific Partnership. That's a 12-nation trade pact favored by most of the business community -- including Intel, Nike and other major employers in Oregon -- but staunchly opposed by organized labor and a number of other left-of-center groups.

The Oregon senator has repeatedly said that the deal he negotiated with Republicans includes a number of provisions that would help protect American workers and improve on previous trade pacts that critics have said helped speed the loss of manufacturing jobs to Asia.

"It's an opportunity to enact fresh, middle-class trade policies that will create high-skill, high-wage jobs in Oregon and across the country," Wyden said in a statement issued after the vote Tuesday. "That opportunity is lost if this package of four bills gets winnowed down to two."



Also, they are calling it a test vote.


"I don't think it's the end of it at all," said McDonough, calling Tuesday's action a "test vote."


Source OregonLive

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Why Wyden Has It Wrong on Fast Track and the TPP


Sen. Ron Wyden took to Wired yesterday to argue that the Fast Track bill he co-sponsored to rush approval for trade deals like the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) agreement will help protect the free and open Internet. Sen. Wyden has long been a staunch defender of the Internet and users' rights, and more recently, he has renewed his efforts to reform the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) and the draconian Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA). We heartily applaud these endeavors—which is why his stance on Fast Track and the TPP is so disappointing.

Source- Eff



posted on May, 13 2015 @ 12:04 AM
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a reply to: Willtell

racist



posted on May, 13 2015 @ 12:16 AM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

First of all, am I missing something here? We don't need a bill to prevent China from doing anything with the dollar. What happens to the dollar is in the hands of the Feds, not China, and the Feds have already announced they are slowly going to be devaluing the dollar.

So where exactly does needing legislation about China come in? That seems altogether incorrect... since we can only legislate American policy and not Chinese policy, and American policy already has the feds devaluing the dollar.

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posted on May, 13 2015 @ 12:38 AM
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The dollar is compared against other basket currencies. China and Russia have both been driving their currencies down as the Fed has been driving the quantitative easing express. The goal of QE is to drive down the value to the dollar, generating inflation. So long as competing nations are manipulating their own currencies (just like the US manipulates the dollar...) the dollar's value on the international marketplace isn't impacted and the trade deficit continues.

Here's how insane America's overlords are: A strong dollar that is retaining it's value is a bad thing in their eyes. They measure growth and success by how high inflation is on the international currency market.

They're sick where fiscal policy is concerned, every one of them, GOP and Democrats.


ETA: It is a complicated thing to explain and I'm probably not doing a good job of explaining it. Think of it in terms of the stunt the US and Saudi Arabia pulled on oil prices, artificially driving down the value of a barrel of oil on the international market, to damage Russia. That is what China has done with the Yuan. They have artificially pushed the value of their currency down, largely negating the US' efforts to do the same with the dollar. Don't examine it on a national level, but look at it on the international stage... If $1 = 1 Yuan and the US wants to export more goods to China, they can do that by making the dollar worth less than the Yuan... It is how countries like Mexico, China, Taiwan, and even Japan became manufacturing hubs in the world (well, that alongside removal of import tariffs in the USA which serve to protect against those shenanigans.) The Democrats aren't calling for tariffs or really anything with any teeth whatsoever here, they just want the US Treasury to publicly state "Hey China, we see you're manipulating your currency and will name and shame you internationally for it." Whoopie! No teeth. The real problem here is that, if the USA succeeds in devaluing the dollar, what does that get the average US worker? Oh yay, we get to live like Taiwanese factory workers, livin' that dream makin that grip! :rolleyes: This is a shell game and the American people are getting hosed.
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posted on May, 13 2015 @ 03:56 AM
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a reply to: Willtell
Jesse 'I ain't got time to bleed ' Ventura calls them the democrips and rebloodlicans and I agree Willtell, they are the Banksters bitches.
I also like Arnolds saying from the same movie that is equally relevant to all politicians "if it bleeds we can kill it"




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