What is coming our way ?

a reply to: Dimithae

Cars like those would not be for moving lots of people in a friendly way from what you describe. If they are expecting or training for a natural disaster and expecting to have to move a lot of people suddenly, you would think that cars for mass movement of the population would be closed to the outside as most major natural disasters (Yellowstone would the one causing the most havoc) would also incorporate outside air quality issues, and you would think leaving cars open to the outside air would be bad for any refugees being moved.

Northeast honshu just hit by 6.8 earthquake. Not much details as of yet but more activity is worrying.

Hope everyone stays safe.

a reply to: threeeyesopen

I'm more concerned about some type of impending natural disaster that we are perhaps not being told about.

What sort of natural disaster are you concerned about?

People have been fretting about impending natural disasters on ATS since forever.......adding 2 + 2 and getting 5.

I wouldn't worry about it if I were you.

a reply to: loveguy

Jade = Green

Helm = Hat

Green Beenies out playing games with the witless civies in a multi-state Robin Sage.


That being said I can't recall another time this has been conducted. Anyone have links to JH01-JH14?

It's going to be a long hot summer without military doom porn being thrown into the mix. We'll all be lucky to see Christmas

Those of us who saw through 9/11 have been waiting for 9/11 2.0 for the last 13 and 1/2 years.

a reply to: threeeyesopen

this is a new spin on train cars with shackles and guillotines on them that i haven't heard yet.
i first heard about them back in the mid 90's what's that some odd twenty years ago.

then when you do get to see pictures of them they are automotive transport cars, or cattle cars. never any shackles or guillotines.

a reply to: evc1shop

I used to work for Ford and we had a company right behind us that loaded the cars on the autoracks. These cars he is describing are nothing like that. In the 'old' days they were tri-levels. Now they are enclosed autoracks. So thank you for your input,but these look nothing like that.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

WILL you quit with the back or white garbage?
Either YOU know or you don't,it has NOTHING to do with how intelligent you are or some kind of social victory to be correct.
Secrets have been kept for DECADES that we don't know,there have been rumors of those train cars since the 80s.
Bill Cooper mentions them in his book.
I doubt that its martial law because they haven't got a fraction of the force needed with our military Russia AND China to hold it.
The official story about those cars was for illegal aliens when I originally heard about them..

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: threeeyesopen

this is a new spin on train cars with shackles and guillotines on them that i haven't heard yet.
i first heard about them back in the mid 90's what's that some odd twenty years ago.

then when you do get to see pictures of them they are automotive transport cars, or cattle cars. never any shackles or guillotines.

Plus we get portable morgues :-(

originally posted by: 200Plus
That being said I can't recall another time this has been conducted. Anyone have links to JH01-JH14?

Also possible it's not a sequential title but rather Jade Helm 15 because it's 2015.
Nah..
Its' doom, they are coming to take everyone away..

a reply to: threeeyesopen

Well first , I would like to give you props for being able to handle criticism rather well and better then most .

We need more people willing to question their rational then those that prefer to protect their rational.

It really is more of a fear of the unknown..you know, what is our greatest fault ?

Well, As Krazysh0t demonstrated Jade Helm was a training exercise that was over dramatized by the doom porn capitalist.

More importantly , you have just ensured that their will be no doom . From what I have seen it turns out their is a 100% failure rate with every doom porn or Martial law scenario that has been posted here in ATS.

Plus gov't work with Machiavellian tactics which are far more effective than brute force . Its much harder and less manageable to keep a shackled prisoner than one that thinks they are free.

a reply to: ketsuko

Well Ket,,, I understand the power of media. I understand that it can be used by tptb to manipulatge the conscientiousness of the masses. I understand that media focuses on adrenaline pumping stories. I understand that the lackey forecasters report what and how their bosses tell them to. Sure, media can and does make anything seem like whatever they want it to seem like. OK. To this point I think we understand things as they are.

However, what explains the empty lakes in California. What explains the low rivers all over the west coast. Is that media telling me that when I drive by Lake Shasta it is empty. Is it media that tells me that Mt. Shasta is now brown most of the year when it used to be white year in and year out? Is it media that tells me that the river outside of my house has been at traditionally late September levels since March.

I watch the weather reports up here in the northwest and they tell me that the warm pressure systems from the south are pushing the cooler, wetter systems to the north which bypass our area which then dramatically come down into the rest of the country with moisture that used to fall on us. I look out my window and see the hills that usually begin turning brown in July are now, in early May already on their way.

I talk with my friends and family around the country. North, east and midwest and what do I hear? "Man it wasn't like this ten, twenty and thirty years ago. And to this I have to say hmmmm.

Sure I would like to be able to blame media for everything, and believe me (if you want to) I blame it for a whole lot of stuff. And sure, the political football of climate change will be used by whoever wants to use it for whatever they want to use it for. I dig it. I DIG IT.

But here is another thought Ket. This idea that it is all a red herring, that it is all a smoke screen, that it is all just a matter of focus. That meme. That is also a a a media presentation and serves it's own masters.

So, I do not say global warming. I do not say climate change. I say increasingly dramatic weather. And you tell me I am fooled by the medias subversive agenda. So I guess I want to say to you, careful of your own easy answers. Your own possibly 'ostrich' positions.

originally posted by: Dimithae
a reply to: evc1shop

I used to work for Ford and we had a company right behind us that loaded the cars on the autoracks. These cars he is describing are nothing like that. In the 'old' days they were tri-levels. Now they are enclosed autoracks. So thank you for your input,but these look nothing like that.

I was trying to link to the picture of the enclosed autoracks but the link went to the page instead of the images. Anyhow, if you clicked that link and then scroll down the page you can click on a few photos of the enclosed cars. If you know of them then perhaps they are not what your brother has seen. I spent some time in Lansing, MI and there is a little freight yard right off the 94/694 where they constantly load the enclosed ones with cars. That is why I immediately thought of them and posted that. Sorry about the wiki page linking back to the older style "auto carrier" and not the "autorack" photos.

a reply to: evc1shop

No worries about the link. I went to it and looked just in case there was anything new there I hadn't seen before,but I am familiar with all those. Thanks for answering anyway.

a reply to: threeeyesopen

Good info

If shackles were of any use in trains the Nazis would've done it already.
They found cattle cars most efficient for moving people around like livestock.
There are no pictures of these trains which would be odd if they were indeed real.
This isn't to say our government isn't up to something I think they are.
Just not sure what yet but I'd bet anything it isn't good for the people.

a reply to: cavtrooper7

Oh come on! You were (are?) in the military. You should be familiar with the military's training exercises. Do you HONESTLY believe this tripe?

This is why this conspiracy theory annoys me. Anyone who has been in or worked for the military should know damn well that the military conducts training exercises domestically like this all the time. At this point there are so many veterans out there who should be able to vouch for the official story that this conspiracy theory shouldn't even exist; except veterans like you are fueling it just because it is the right wing media's hotspot "conspiracy" of the week.

a reply to: Asktheanimals

here is a thread back from 2008, that shows the car haulers that i was talking about. the member claims he took them out side a fema camp.

there are all kinds of pictures on the net that show these same type train cars claiming they have shackles and as i said guillotines. if you do a search you will find that every claim, show automotive of cattle transport cars.

Get Ready Folks.

One thing I noticed while reading this thread is that, no one mentioned the capability of North Korea to reach the West Coast with an ICBM. Would this not make the most sense? Sorry, I do not have time to post more, links, etc., I just wanted to throw this out there. Have homework to do (and no not High School), but, when finished, if links have not been provided, will gladly provide information to back up this theory!