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Michelle Obama Tells Black Grads That White People Make Life Tough

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posted on May, 12 2015 @ 03:13 PM
I don't see much of a reason for Caucasians to get up in arms about racially charged statements from African Americans. Particularly the first lady.

The reality is we may never see a Black President again...

Currently African Americans have slipped below 13% of the Nation, Mexicans who in actuality are 33-70% Caucasian by genetic have reached nearly 20% and living near the border I assure you within a generation or two assimilate white, 25% intermarriage with Caucasians each generation...

The number one birth rate by group is Mormon at 8 children each

And the largest immigrant group surpassing Latinos now is Asian, Asians have the lowest crime rates and highest per capita income exceeding Caucasians and even the Jewish demographic now... intermarriage with Caucasians starting with Japanese at 75% is tthe highest of any group to ever arrive, with higher numbers than Latinos this wave will go 40 years...

While America and political correctness constantly touts this is "not a Caucasian America" there is a minor degree of truth to this, we are not going to be solidly European...

But... the "African American" Demographic will slip this century to 5-6% and just be further marginalized, the odds of a "Black Agenda" in the white house in the future is slim to none...

These facts make it hard to resent them trying to "do what they can" and normalize racial stereotyping while there, a "push" to see white people be "cooler" to Black people can't hurt, the reality is huge numbers of Latinos and Asians vastly out numbering African Americans poses them racial issues too, many people "fresh off the boat" have racially biased attitudes and they are the most likely to be neighbors...

Further, there are 2 "Black America'" The 50's to the 70's saw the expression "White Flight" when Caucasians fled the inner cities to avoid "high risk" neighborhoods" which made those neighborhoods worse, no jobs etc, etc... but the post Civil rights era saw "Black Flight" 51% of "African Americans" left for the suburbs... so take half of 13% or 6.5% and realize that these are suburbanites in fairly Caucasian neighborhoods, integrated, more likely to marry out of race attend college etc... The life in any "ghetto" not boding well, arrest and poverty don't "up" mating potential, having kids "incarcerated" isn't easy, the "ghetto" of half of the African American population will continue to decline, while most interracial marriage will happen in the burbs...

in short the African American population is slipping into decline, while Asians and Latinos grow rapidly in number and intermarry at very high rates with Caucasians and Mormons put out more than enough kids to fill that gap...

It will be a very Caucasian nation and much less African American, I can't get mad about this stuff even though "it feels" like all of the PC is aimed at "me" because the reality is me, my kids and there kids will live in a society where the "majority" of several minorities will remain Caucasian for as long as I can see the future, Hispanics are called by Many African Americans the great white hope and as Heinlein predicted in his books as far back as the 50's Hispanics demographically will be nothing more than a "Caucasian Ethnicity" with Spanish last names (if you watch starship troopers you see the depiction of "rico and florez as Blonde Europeans) and that Is the outcome by numbers and genetics, and more numerous will be Asians who inter marry in extremely high percentages and lets be frank, strong ties with Asia in the coming cetury are necessary for the American economy...

And there are African Americans heading straight for 6%...

so be aware of their concerns...understand "why" some feel threatened, the talk of a "non Caucasian" america is bs, we will be 35% Caucasian with another 35% "Caucasian Mix"... (which all Latinos are already) the rest being Asian... that's 94-95% of a nation to put it bluntly that identifies "Not Black"

So stop worrying about what African Americans are doing or pushing, truth is they are demographically in the crapper in the coming America and a push for "tolerance" wont hurt anyone, they are "no threat" and in fact have real reason to be concerned, to wear a "stigma" of racial stereo types in nation where your the minority of all minorities, which is where this is going probably feels scary.

posted on May, 12 2015 @ 03:17 PM

originally posted by: Onslaught2996
a reply to: WarminIndy

This is in Canada. I am not saying that all cops are like that..I have meant racist cops..but I have also met decent police officers.

I hold no grudges...but can understand where she is coming from.

Her speech will face racism but never let that stand in your way of success.

Everyone should have the opportunity to succeed, but we will always face racism. I took it as offensive for the President to say in his speech that the highest students can go is middle class.

The way to end racism is to end being racist, that includes every group. I'm tired of hearing "black community" because we don't say "white community". How can we be separate but equal, if separate but equal is wrong?

It is wrong for whites to say separate but equal, but for blacks to say "black community", that means separate but equal.
I say do away with the term and just call us all Americans, call all you Canadians.

Americans are under the same Constitution, we all need to start acting like it. Black Americans, white Americans, we are all Americans, so we need to act like it.

posted on May, 12 2015 @ 03:19 PM

originally posted by: criticalhit
I don't see much of a reason for Caucasians to get up in arms about racially charged statements from African Americans. Particularly the first lady.

The reality is we may never see a Black President again...

Its precisely for that issue, that she as a figurehead, as a groundbreaker as the first ever FLOTUS of the USA, should show a positive side to her life, not get up on a podium and start crying about the fact that "racsim didn't do her any harm".

She should actually be stating "look at where I am. You can do it too."

posted on May, 12 2015 @ 03:23 PM
a reply to: criticalhit

Why won't we see another black president?
We won't see another president like Kennedy, that's for sure. Hopefully we won't see another president like Johnson or Nixon. Ben Carson is running for president, but the Liberals are trying to destroy him already. He isn't stereotypical enough.

Hispanics are Caucasian?

posted on May, 12 2015 @ 03:38 PM
I think it is a shame that Michelle so often focusses on the negative. Life is a long, hard slog for all of us humans, but we've got to resist thinking of ourselves as victims. Michelle helps nobody by encouraging these graduates to see themselves as victims.
When I graduated from college George Bush senior gave the address and his was very positive. The most memorable part for me, and it has been over 25 years, is that he said "Go on out there and DAZZLE us!"


a reply to: wanderingconfusion

posted on May, 12 2015 @ 03:49 PM

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: Noobarino
Why do Asian people never complain about being a minority.

No one is complaining about being a minority. Asians don't have a history of being enslaved in their own country and being treated like dirt. Asians are respected in this country. Black people are being shot by cops every day. There's a HUGE difference.

A bit off topic, but WHITE people get shot every day as well.

posted on May, 12 2015 @ 03:54 PM
a reply to: SaturnFX

Well, I guess we can agree to disagree; our views on this issue are poles apart, (no insult to people of Polish ancestry intended). I think, (hypothesize) that the reason for this is that the issues involved are so mufti-faceted that everyone can look at this from one or more perspectives and come away with entirely different impressions.

Am I part of the problem or part of the solution? I've pretty much removed myself from the problem; I try to be part of the solution but am often misunderstood. I don't see much in the way of a solution in this current political system/environment. That's to say, I don't see a political solution to this, in fact, politics may well be part of the problem. One of the reasons for my pessimism on the subject is that at the root there seem to be two intractable problems.

The first is economic inequality which is only getting worse as the Gov't trades away US jobs and in the process destroys mechanisms for economic mobility. Simply put, as jobs disappear, it gets ever more difficult to move up the economic food chain. That creates innumerable problems as we've seen in places like Baltimore and other "rust belt" cities.

The second problem is equally complicated and a bit weird. It truly has to do with the fact that the "Divide" has become a business model. I've spoken to that and in my rather clumsy way, I've tried to point out that listening to people who are profiting from that business model is just pointless. All the "talk" does is inflame the issue. Talk isn't the solution, its a solution that literally needs to be "worked out", that is, by the way of providing people with job opportunities that allow themselves to "work" their way out of poverty and work up the economic ladder. So for example, if this Administration had followed through with its pledge to get people back to work with investments in US infrastructure, we'd see much better return on the expenditure of tax payers dollars.

I'm not interested in promoting re-segregation. I know that isn't a solution to these problems. But, according to what I read, re-segregation is happening whether we like it or not. And its an economic re-segregation as much as it is a racial re-segregation.

You noted that the problems between the races will work itself out just as it did with previous immigrant groups. I'd have agreed with you in the 1990's. I thought that's how we'd see it work through. But...its not happening. I hypothesize that it isn't working out that way because 1) its not in the interests of those running and profiting from the "Divide Industry" and 2) the scenes of violence and destruction coming out of places like Baltimore are only increasing the levels of distrust between the races.

posted on May, 12 2015 @ 03:56 PM
Anything to get an argument about race going aye? How about you listen to the speech again, then try and comprehend it this time.

I'm not a fan of Obama or Michelle, but I won't try and devalue someone's image by taking what they say out of context.

posted on May, 12 2015 @ 03:57 PM
I feel bad for her. I think the taxpayers should treat her to another nice family vacation.

First Family Vacations

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Records Reveal Obamas’ Ireland Trip Cost Taxpayers $7,921,638.66

President Obama’s June 2013 trip to Belfast, Ireland, including a Dublin sightseeing side trip by Michelle Obama, her daughters, and her entourage, cost the taxpayers $7,921,638.66.

$11,648.17 in security costs related to President Obama’s “date night” with First Lady Michelle Obama on May 30, 2009 in New York City.

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President Obama spent the Presidents’ Day Weekend (February 15-18) on a golf trip in West Palm Beach, Florida. First Lady Michelle Obama and her daughters spent the same holiday weekend on a ski trip in Aspen, Colorado. Vice President Biden and his family spent that weekend skiing in Aspen…

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Michelle Obama’s August 2010 Vacation in Spain Cost American Taxpayers $467,585 According to Records Obtained by Judicial Watch

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Judicial Watch Sues U.S. Air Force for Records Detailing Costs of Michelle Obama’s August 2010 ‘Whirlwind’ Vacation to Spain

Judicial Watch announced that it filed a lawsuit on March 5, 2012, in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia against the United States Air Force to obtain records detailing Michelle Obama’s controversial August 2010 vacation to Spain. Overall, Judicial Watch is seeking information pertaining to the costs to taxpayers for this vacation as well as any indication of official business conducted by Mrs. Obama while she was in the country (Judicial Watch v. USAF (No. 1:12-cv-00345)).

Judicial Watch Sues Air Force and Secret Service for Records Detailing Michelle Obama’s Family Ski Vacation to Aspen, Colorado

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Judicial Watch obtained records from the United States Air Force and the United States Secret Service detailing Michelle Obama’s February 2012 President’s Day weekend ski vacation to Aspen, Colorado, with her two daughters.

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posted on May, 12 2015 @ 03:59 PM

originally posted by: WarminIndy
a reply to: criticalhit

Why won't we see another black president?
We won't see another president like Kennedy, that's for sure. Hopefully we won't see another president like Johnson or Nixon. Ben Carson is running for president, but the Liberals are trying to destroy him already. He isn't stereotypical enough.

Hispanics are Caucasian?

The numeric's are way against it. Call it "racism" if you will, i'm not sure it's not a little more "complicated" than that. I'd say people feel "safe" when the person in charge is "like them" I think there was a "move" to elect a Black President to "be liberal" prove "non racism" AND as luck would have it i'd say he was indeed the better Candidate BY FAR...

But that's a perfect storm situation... 13% is 13% and people want "their own" unless.... your choice is the frightening nightmare of John Mc Cain and the potential if he drops dead for Sarah Palin to be Potus...

and then let's be Honest, Obama isn't "Black" he's Mulatto, his MOM is whiter than rice... which made it easier for Caucasians, I'm not speaking for "ME" here, people are kinda racist even when they aren't Racist and Blacks have a Stigma, large numbers of Asians and Hispanics are here to "move up" and that identity mentally is Caucasian, given choice until they have numbers to push their candidates most will vote Caucasians outside of "nightmare" scenarios, Asians and Latinos are very success driven, more conservative than Caucasians often think because they are minorities... and heading to 6% of the population over the next 2 generations doesn't bode well for Black Candidates...

posted on May, 12 2015 @ 04:00 PM
a reply to: WarminIndy

...I didn't know, (Obama's) "path to the middle class"...equals...(your statement) "highest you can go is the middle class"
you are such a wordsmith

posted on May, 12 2015 @ 04:06 PM

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: SaturnFX

Well, I guess we can agree to disagree; our views on this issue are poles apart, (

I appreciate your nuanced view of the issues at hand here. I disagree with some perceptions you have, but thats due to my own, really just a statement of disagreement moreso than suggesting black/white right/wrong angle

posted on May, 12 2015 @ 04:06 PM

originally posted by: amicktd
Anything to get an argument about race going aye? How about you listen to the speech again, then try and comprehend it this time.

I'm not a fan of Obama or Michelle, but I won't try and devalue someone's image by taking what they say out of context.

didn't you know that racism is over, and black people saying anything about the idea that it's still around, is just "white hatred" and "white bigotry"?....geez, let's get with the program here. (sarcasm mods, sarcasm)

posted on May, 12 2015 @ 04:11 PM
a reply to: criticalhit

Very well said...very logical. I agree with everything you said, but most black people in America are under the assumption that anybody who isn't "pure" white will side with them.

I don't think a lot of white people are worried about what black people say, more just wanting them to understand the truth of what is going on so we can all get a long better.

What you said is true. The outlook for blacks is very grim overall. Asians are the most xenophobic cultures, and while they may not see White Europeans the same way they see themselves, they don't feel threatened by them. They do however feel very very threatened by black people. I don't agree with their xenophobia, but understand why they have it. If you look at Asian culture vs Black culture they are about as different as you can get.

I don't want black people to have a bad life. I want them to thrive. So when I see people making comments that I know will further divide blacks from every other race I try to stop it.

posted on May, 12 2015 @ 04:22 PM
a reply to: WarminIndy

And yeah, Mexicans are Caucasians, (you want here racist white people saying this lol) But by Genetic they are basically Southern European, there are a lot of Native genes in the mix, but you get a fair number of Blonde Mexicans. The ratio runs as I said between 33% and 70% Southern European Genes with fractions falling on either side further.

A lot of Caucasians see Blonde, Brown red head as "Caucasian" but our immigrant waves of the last century include Jews, Greeks, Italians in fairly large numbers... a generation or two later they are called "Brunettes"

Your dealing with the semantics here of "Racism" vs "Holy crap your Racist as hell" But even the Nazis who all fled to South America didn't have a problem with "Spanish" in their consideration of European... Only crazy American Republicans are "that Racist" lol

Truth be told i'm not far from the border, when "not in the sun picking fruit all day" fresh off the boat so to speak a generation or two in I can't tell really a Mexican "descended person" from any other southern European really...

What would you call "Selena Gomez" "Charlie Sheen" "J lo" "Ricardo Montelban"

These aren't "Europeans" ?

They are a bit Olive and Brunette?

If you classify "white" as "British- Northern Europe" no... but to me, Latino? You mean Catholic People of Spanish decent mainly who celebrate Christmas, speak a romance language and settled the new world alongside the Dutch... about as white as you get before waxing psuedo albino... I can't "see" the Catholic - Christian dilemma as requiring since the time of "Gangs of NY" a disparity lol

The Pope... he's not "Caucasian" he's a different "Race"

I'm not even getting all Liberal and going for the "we are all human" thing... It's to me just xenophobic as hell to classify Hispanics separately, particularly with a 25% per generation rate of intermarriage... Moms 66% Spanish Dads from some that's "not white" but to me the people that think that looking at the Blonde haired browned eye girl are totally in the David Duke camp of Racism...

Caucasian if in America to some = Caucasian English speaking with light eyes and almost no skin pigment as the only criteria, well... I don't know what to say lol, that's "a bit much" in my book

America is Racist as hell lol, Even Obama never mentions he's actually a dark skinned Caucasian, His Mom was White the person who gave birth to him, in a lot of cultures, saying he is Black would be considered BS

posted on May, 12 2015 @ 04:30 PM
a reply to: c0gN1t1v3D1ss0nanC3

TY, you get it... "Black America" is in a weird place overall, African Americans who left "the hood" are getting absorbed while what's left of the Ghettos are disintegrating all while other "races" that ARE xenophobic to them rise in numbers right past them... It's math 13% divided into 87% = very few Black people, Integration is a double edged sword, I just think "some" white people are crazy to "fear" the current activism, it's identity struggle and many other things but it's not an actual threat, the Republican part "baiting" the lesser educated with lines like "whites will be a minority" evokes a certain set of fears which in reality don't exist....

posted on May, 12 2015 @ 04:51 PM

To those mornings you woke up early to get a spot under The Shed to watch the Golden Tigers play. Yeah! I've been watching! At the White House we have all kinds of ways.


You will follow heroes like Dr. Boynton Robinson--who survived the billy clubs and the tear gas of Bloody Sunday in Selma. The story of Tuskegee is full of stories like theirs -- men and women who came to this city, seized their own futures, and wound up shaping the arc of history for African Americans and all Americans.

African Americans and all Americans? Talk about segregation.

Back then, black soldiers faced all kinds of obstacles. There were the so-called scientific studies that said that black men’s brains were smaller than white men’s.  Official Army reports stated that black soldiers were “childlike,” “shiftless,” “unmoral and untruthful,” and as one quote stated, “if fed, loyal and compliant.”

Keep driving it home Michelle. Black people are inferior.

So while the Airmen selected for this program were actually highly educated, many already had college degrees and pilots licenses, they were presumed to be inferior.  During training, they were often assigned to menial tasks like housekeeping or landscaping.  Many suffered verbal abuse at the hands of their instructors.  When they ventured off base, the white sheriff here in town called them “boy” and ticketed them for the most minor offenses.  And when they finally deployed overseas, white soldiers often wouldn’t even return their salutes.

White sheriff and white soldiers? Nice...

Just think about what that must have been like for those young men. Here they were, trained to operate some of the most complicated, high-tech machines of their day -- flying at hundreds of miles an hour, with the tips of their wings just six inches apart. Yet when they hit the ground, folks treated them like they were nobody -- as if their very existence meant nothing.

If you haven't figured it out yet, "folks" means white people.

Because here’s the thing -- the road ahead is not going to be easy. It never is, especially for folks like you and me.  Because while we’ve come so far, the truth is that those age-old problems are stubborn and they haven’t fully gone away.  So there will be times, just like for those Airmen, when you feel like folks look right past you, or they see just a fraction of who you really are.

More of the same.

Instead they will make assumptions about who they think you are based on their limited notion of the world.  And my husband and I know how frustrating that experience can be.  We’ve both felt the sting of those daily slights throughout our entire lives -- the folks who crossed the street in fear of their safety; the clerks who kept a close eye on us in all those department stores; the people at formal events who assumed we were the “help” -- and those who have questioned our intelligence, our honesty, even our love of this country.

Laying it on thick now. EVERYONE who isn't black is against you!

And I know that these little indignities are obviously nothing compared to what folks across the country are dealing with every single day -- those nagging worries that you’re going to get stopped or pulled over for absolutely no reason; the fear that your job application will be overlooked because of the way your name sounds; the agony of sending your kids to schools that may no longer be separate, but are far from equal; the realization that no matter how far you rise in life, how hard you work to be a good person, a good parent, a good citizen -- for some folks, it will never be enough.

She is drilling preconceived ideas of what to expect even though they may experience none of it. Repeat. Repeat.

And all of that is going to be a heavy burden to carry.  It can feel isolating.  It can make you feel like your life somehow doesn’t matter -- that you’re like the invisible man that Tuskegee grad Ralph Ellison wrote about all those years ago.  And as we’ve seen over the past few years, those feelings are real.  They’re rooted in decades of structural challenges that have made too many folks feel frustrated and invisible.  And those feelings are playing out in communities like Baltimore and Ferguson and so many others across this country.

What's your opinion on the matter Mr. Soros?

But here’s the thing -- our history provides us with a better story, a better blueprint for how we can win.  It teaches us that when we pull ourselves out of those lowest emotional depths, and we channel our frustrations into studying and organizing and banding together -- then we can build ourselves and our communities up.  We can take on those deep-rooted problems, and together -- together -- we can overcome anything that stands in our way.

Together, ourselves, our communities, all meaning black people. Where's whitey and the rest of society fit into the equation?

Those Airmen who rose above brutal discrimination -- they did it so the whole world could see just how high black folks could soar.  That’s the spirit we’ve got to summon to take on the challenges we face today.

I'll keep it simple.

If that wasn't a racially charged (as truthful as it was) speech, I don't know what is. All she focused on was their skin color and how they have been treated because of it.

While true in some respect, this is NOT the way you prepare any race of young adults for the future. The context was strong and there are many in the crowd who have had their prejudices affirmed after hearing such garbage.

The First Lady could have avoided repeating how their skin alone will make it difficult in life, but instead she reinforces it tenfold. This was an attack on white people and how we are the reason they have to try so hard to stand out amongst a world she paints is dictated by them.

Remarks by the First Lady at Tuskegee University Commencement Address

edit on 12-5-2015 by eisegesis because: (no reason given)

posted on May, 12 2015 @ 04:51 PM
I finally get it. ATS runs on fear.

posted on May, 12 2015 @ 04:52 PM
a reply to: wanderingconfusion

Oh I'm sorry Michelle Obama, your "people" wanted equality and now you have it, respectfully.

Now you're saying that you don't like being treat wrongly?

Everyone gets picked on at some point in their life and looked down upon, but because you're black you want special treatment? What equality is this..?

In a way you're saying that black people don't want to be treated as equal, they want something more, is this true?

If that's the way America makes you feel then I'm sorry, but I'm also glad I live here in the UK.

posted on May, 12 2015 @ 05:11 PM
a reply to: ketsuko


Explain why I should feel shame for what people who lived and died before I was born and had any chance to do anything at all about any of it.

And let's not bring skin color into the conversation.

and in the VERY NEXT POST:

Maybe it's part of the the strategy to ensure the historic nature of her husband's presidency by making sure he's the first and last black president. If electing blacks to the office means they are all going to behave like she does, I won't be making the mistake, ever, and I hope my fellow Americans are learning their lesson good and hard.

You've got to space them out a little better if you don't want the hypocrisy to be so blatant. Also, as much as we've disagreed, the above statement is perhaps the least defensible thing I've seen you post. You've effectively admitted that you consciously stereotype people by race and that race is a major factor in how you vote.

Want to keep pretending that race isn't an issue? Seems to me that your own ill-conceived comments justify everything Michelle Obama said in her speech.

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