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originally posted by: Gorman91
a reply to: TzarChasm
No, we are actually a republic with very strong oligarchical trends.
America was never a democracy beyond the local state level. And it never will be. You want a democracy, move to Europe or India.
And behold, even they have sky fairies. We the people, have religion. Like it or not.
originally posted by: Klassified
originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: Gorman91
They wanted a secular state. But their secular was not your secular. Their views were not yours. What you want from a secular state is not what they wanted. If they were alive today, they would not have said they wanted a secular state. They would have said they wanted, frankly, the western liberal equivalent of ISIS.
but we have democracy now. we the people have the power, not some sky fairy.
thats how it should be.
Actually, we have a Republic with a modicum of integrated democratic principles.
originally posted by: TSZodiac
I beg to differ - i suggest that you brush up on the 10 Commandments.....a reply to: AugustusMasonicus
The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise