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originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: schuyler
People are SO willing to believe anything negative about Obama, they don't even consider the source, the "proof" or the likelihood of the details. You can lead a horse to water...
The Many Problems with Seymour Hersh's Osama bin Laden Conspiracy Theory
The story simply does not hold up to scrutiny — and, sadly, is in line with Hersh's recent turn away from the investigative reporting that made him famous into unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.
Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.
"The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Usama alive or dead," the source said.
Bin Laden, according to the source, was suffering from a serious lung complication and succumbed to the disease in mid-December, in the vicinity of the Tora Bora mountains. The source claimed that bin Laden was laid to rest honorably in his last abode and his grave was made as per his Wahabi belief.
originally posted by: proteus33
a reply to: gazzerman
you believe that aman with advanced kidney disease lasred all those years until seals came and took him out?
i believe that turd died in afganistan or pakistan probably in 2002 or 2003.thats why there has never been a real follow up attack since 911. trust me this great usa is not that well protected. i men we can't even stop all the illegal aliens crossing from mexico .
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: xuenchen
If i recall, that report when you trace it all back came from one source who said he had attended Bin Ladens funeral inside Tora-Bora in early December 2001.
I remember looking into this claim once and dismissing it because of a few things, principally because Dalton Fury the Delta Force commander on the ground says he listened to Bin Laden via radio making transmissions in mid-December (December 15 if i recall). There were also reports that UK SBS may also have actually had a visual on Bin Laden as he left the battle (but not verified). I am pretty sure there were a few other things about the report that never quite added up. I might look into it a little bit again later and try to provide some sources.
originally posted by: kazryll
a reply to: gazzerman
Personally I always thought Benazir Bhutto's claim that Osama bin Laden's was disposed of years before the U.S. claimed they did it interesting - and unfortunate she was then assassinated.
“It’s nice to see something come out that supports and confirms my work,” she said in an interview with Raw Story. “But it’s a mixed bag in that it was rather shocking to see that there was absolutely no acknowledgment of the prior work. Because there’s no way he could have done research on this topic and not come across my work.
“My background is in academics. When someone takes an existing skeleton then brings it up and presents it as completely new story of their own, that would be greatly frowned upon. There would be some serious issues that your work was really derivative and you’re making it appear that it’s original. In other words, he didn’t break the story and he should have acknowledged it.”
Recently, well noted writer, analyst and economist, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, weighed in on Hersh’s bin Laden report. Here’s an excerpt from the Roberts article entitled, Seymour Hersh Succumbs To Disinformation:
“I do not believe Hersh’s story for three reasons. One reason is that bin Laden was suffering from disease that no one can survive for a decade. His death was widely reported in 2001. One reason is that even Hersh’s “true” account of “what really happened” is contradicted by eye witnesses and the initial Pakistani TV interviews of eye witnesses. One reason is that Hersh’s story is too convoluted for an assassination raid, a routine event. He exposes lies within lies, indecision within decision, payoffs within payoffs, and reports such a huge number of people with advance knowledge of the raid that it cannot possibly have been kept a secret.”