a reply to: BuzzyWigs
So, he didn't say those things?
Oh wait, you said he obviously DID say those things.....
but, I'm reading it wrong? I don't care about other bible verses....I care about what he supposedly said that modern self-styled "Christians" disagree
with (or deny).
But, hey, I totally understand you not wanting to waste your time talking to me (I mean, "of all people! *eyeroll*").....right? (Right?) !!!!!
There in lies your problem. You don't care about other Bible verses. The Bible was meant to interpret itself...just like any other book. I will show
you what I am talking about since you seem so eager....
34 “Then the King will say to those on His right, ‘Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the
foundation of the world.
35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger
and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'
37"Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see
you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'
40"The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'
Notice the kingdom was for the Sheep and that it had specifically be prepared for these Sheep since the foundation of the world.(This is not
predestination it is based on God's omniscient knowledge) :
Inheritance is something passed on to you from someone close in the context it would mean something passed from God the Father to the Children of
But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name,
he gave the right to become children of God
1 John 2:28-3:10
And now, little children, abide in him, so that when he appears we may have confidence and not shrink from him in shame at his coming. If you know
that he is righteous, you may be sure that everyone who practices righteousness has been born of him
. See what kind of love the Father has
given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. Beloved,
we are God's children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him
as he is. And everyone who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure. .
1 Peter 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy has caused us to be born again to a living hope through
the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 to obtain an inheritance which is imperishable and undefiled and will not fade away, reserved in
heaven for you, 5 who are protected by the power of God through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
Notice the parallel to the inheritance in Matthew 25. Given to those who are protected by the power of God through faith. Notice that being born of
Him and being born again are the same thing.
(This next passage does a good job of describing how Christians view the path to becoming a righteous person)
1 Peter 2
4 And coming to Him as to a living stone which has been rejected by men, but is choice and precious in the sight of God, 5 you also, as living stones,
are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6 For this is
contained in Scripture:
“Behold, I lay in Zion a choice stone, a precious corner stone,
And he who believes in Him will not be disappointed.”
7 This precious value, then, is for you who believe; but for those who disbelieve,
“The stone which the builders rejected,
This became the very corner stone,”
“A stone of stumbling and a rock of offense”;
for they stumble because they are disobedient to the word, and to this doom they were also appointed.
9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God’s own possession, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of
Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;
10 for you once were not a people, but now you are the people of God; you had
not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.
Christians come to Christ and Christ sculpts them into a new person. The analogy is perfect imo. A sculptor chips bits and pieces off of stone until
it becomes something beautiful. Christ does the same thing to the Christian's essence and the Christian does what is right simply because that is what
they have been carved into not because of some God-give responsibility. However when it comes to salvation(separation between sheeps and goats) Sheep
are seen as sheep because they "proclaim the excellencies of the one who called the out of darkness" and Goats are seen as Goats because they don't
have grace. The Bible says our Good works are as filthy rags before God(Isaiah 64:6). Its only when you've been clothed in the righteousness of
Christ that ones righteous acts to a son of man will be seen. Going back to Matthew 25, if you think about it the majority of people on earth qualify
for both positions. We have helped some and not helped some. The point here is what is seen by Christ and why. Matthew 25 doesn't give you that alone.
I have also given you at least two references outside of Paul that mention salvation by faith, and I have also given you verses that should show you
that loving acts are an effect of salvation not a requirement for.
edit on 11-5-2015 by ServantOfTheLamb because: typo