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posted on May, 10 2015 @ 08:24 AM
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a reply to: stumason

I didn't say all of 11.3, I meant some of them.
Do you actually think all UK voters perused the available party manifestoes before voting?
I don't. I think most UK voters went with MSM.
We will now face greater borrowing, more public service cuts, further NHS privitisation,
increased taxes & generally a higher cost for living.
It is apparent that the Tories have gained power with a country divided,
Look at the major cities in the UK for example ^ they voted.
I didn't vote for Labour as i don't trust Labour.
I completed three online vote site questionaires before voting.
All three suggested Green or UKIP as my chioce based on the answers I gave.
I still think that a fair amount of Tory voters are stupid/ignorant.




posted on May, 10 2015 @ 08:31 AM
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a reply to: crazyewok

Does it matter if both are increasing in real terms?



posted on May, 10 2015 @ 08:31 AM
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a reply to: supamoto

it's really not dems vs. repubs. it isn't. that's a public spectacle. for example, here in the usa, a colony of the european central banking system, our dems enact laws to bring american capitalism to its knees so they can replace freedom of business, religion and so on, with a ruling, extremely wealthy elite, who will dictate what you do with your food, money, brain, etc, and the repubs let them cause they want to end up being in the group that holds all the money and power. it's a devil's bargain.



posted on May, 10 2015 @ 08:44 AM
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Life is more than a general election every 5 years. People need to stop worrying. I promise things will be ok. We are all strong enough to deal with what life has to throw at us. Don't live your life in fear what's the worse that can happen? Once you come to terms with the inescapable truth that everyone will die, you've nothing to be scarred off or worry about and you can live life as a game with challenges along the way. Games are boring if there's no challenge
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This site is full of people who want to put the fear of death into your lives, most are bored of their dull lives and want you to feel bad too
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posted on May, 10 2015 @ 08:47 AM
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originally posted by: supamoto
a reply to: crazyewok

Does it matter if both are increasing in real terms?


The deficit is on the decrease and should be gone this decade.



posted on May, 10 2015 @ 08:48 AM
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a reply to: supamoto

I would say anyone that votes for green has no real idea how the worlds works.

There manifestos look like written while stoned and on ecstasy.
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posted on May, 10 2015 @ 08:57 AM
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a reply to: crazyewok

"There manifestos look like written while stoned and on ecstasy."
MSN stereotype.
Obvious who influenced your voting then.



posted on May, 10 2015 @ 08:57 AM
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originally posted by: supamoto
I didn't say all of 11.3, I meant some of them.


The OP implied otherwise - which you said you agreed with 100% - perhaps you should make yourself clearer?


originally posted by: supamoto
Do you actually think all UK voters perused the available party manifestoes before voting?
I don't. I think most UK voters went with MSM.


I would like to think everyone made an informed decision. Who am I (and you) to suppose otherwise?


originally posted by: supamoto
We will now face greater borrowing,


When we're forecast to be in a surplus by 2018? Not likely.


originally posted by: supamoto
more public service cuts


Some public services need to be cut - the Government has to spend within it's means. It is ironic considering you (later in this post) bang on about "higher taxes", which is exactly what would be needed to maintain current spending.


originally posted by: supamoto
further NHS privitisation,


God, this gets boring. The best healthcare systems in the world are in the EU and they are all a mix of private and public. France, for example, is often touted as one to follow and 40% of their hopsitals are private. Germany, another example we're told is great, is even more privatised.

As long as it is free at the point of use, what is the problem?


originally posted by: supamoto
increased taxes


Taxes have actually gone down in the past 5 years. The personal allowance has been increased and millions of the lowest paid now pay hardly any tax at all, if any.


originally posted by: supamoto
& generally a higher cost for living.


Inflation is at the lowest on record....


originally posted by: supamoto
It is apparent that the Tories have gained power with a country divided,
Look at the major cities in the UK for example ^ they voted.


Looking at the map is a distortion as the traditional Labour seats are very small, urban constituencies. If they were of the same size (in population) as the Toreis wanted to do in the last Parliament (but blocked by the LD) then Labour would have even less seats


originally posted by: supamoto
I didn't vote for Labour as i don't trust Labour.


And you're not alone, which is why they got trounced.


originally posted by: supamoto
I completed three online vote site questionaires before voting.
All three suggested Green or UKIP as my chioce based on the answers I gave.


As did I, as well as research of my own for what parties stood for.


originally posted by: supamoto
I still think that a fair amount of Tory voters are stupid/ignorant.


And many people think UKIP voters are the same, but I have stood up for them vociferously in the past year or so as everyone has the right to choose what they want, regardless of others opinion. Is it too much to ask you do the same and respect the views of others?

For the record, I am a Tory voter.



posted on May, 10 2015 @ 08:59 AM
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a reply to: crazyewok

LMAO! You're on a conspiricay website &
look at you sprouting your govs propaganda



posted on May, 10 2015 @ 08:59 AM
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originally posted by: crazyewok
There manifestos look like written while stoned and on ecstasy.


That's unfair - even when stoned I wouldn't right any of the sillyness in their manifesto!



posted on May, 10 2015 @ 09:00 AM
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originally posted by: supamoto
a reply to: crazyewok

"There manifestos look like written while stoned and on ecstasy."
MSN stereotype.
Obvious who influenced your voting then.

I had read there manifesto myself and couldn't believe what bull# they want.

They would have gutted our air and transport industry.


And there coo coo idea for a Clowen Pivion style income? Yeah I dont want communism thank you very much.
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posted on May, 10 2015 @ 09:00 AM
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originally posted by: stumason

originally posted by: crazyewok
There manifestos look like written while stoned and on ecstasy.


That's unfair - even when stoned I wouldn't right any of the sillyness in their manifesto!


That why I think they mixed drugs



posted on May, 10 2015 @ 09:01 AM
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originally posted by: supamoto
a reply to: crazyewok

Does it matter if both are increasing in real terms?


The deficit isn't - it's actually been decreased by around 45% since 2010. The national debt is also falling as a share of GDP and will start to tail off once the surplus kicks in.



posted on May, 10 2015 @ 09:02 AM
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originally posted by: supamoto
a reply to: crazyewok

LMAO! You're on a conspiricay website &
look at you sprouting your govs propaganda



Well time will see if Im right.

If we had a green government we would be seeing our currency devalue to that of toilet paper.



posted on May, 10 2015 @ 09:05 AM
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originally posted by: undo
a reply to: TechUnique

the natural flow of a social democracy is totalitarianism, regardless if it's repubs or dems. you need a republic, not a democracy. by that i don't mean you need a bunch of repubs. your repubs are fascists pretending to be republican and your dems are marxists pretending to be democrats, and they work together to suck the lifeblood out of people.


Please leave this confused notion of what a "republic" and a "democracy" is at the door. It only makes sense in America where everyone is a bit strange.

You can have a Republic that isn't a democracy - North Korea, for example.

You can have a Republic which is a Democracy - France or the USA for example.

You can have a Democracy that isn't a republic - the UK.

For the rest of the world, a Republic is simply a form of Government without a Monarch - nothing more, nothing less.

A democracy is a Government which either directly or indirectly through representatives, the public get to vote on their Government.

The two terms are not mutually exclusive, except in America where you're all a bit odd.



posted on May, 10 2015 @ 09:09 AM
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originally posted by: stumason

For the record, I am a Tory voter.


Same here and did not just make my decision on dumb propaganda.

I pulled all my local candidate MP's data on there voting record, expenses and even here background.

I was extremely thorough.
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posted on May, 10 2015 @ 09:12 AM
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Quite - I've known about our local MP for years, since he came to our School back in the early 1990's. He's a stand up bloke, believes in the same sort of things I do and has done good work for the local area. I'd vote for him whatever badge he wore.

Did you know you can even sign up for a service that tells you everything they do in parliament - questions, answers, voting record etc... Well worth doing.
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posted on May, 10 2015 @ 09:14 AM
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I guess we don't live in the same country then because the cost of my living has gone up,
regarless of Tory lies & figure manipulation.
You think it's right that the guidline for pay concerning apprentices is around £2/hr?
Minimum wage applies to over 21s?
Benefits savagley cut for people who are very unlikely to ever be employed.
The less afluent people of the UK are suffering & there are many.
Repeating government claims does't change the facts that many people in our society are suffering due to govs policies.
The same policies that penalise the poor to keep the rich, well rich.
Food banks UK 2015.
That's just embarrasing for a First World Country.



posted on May, 10 2015 @ 09:24 AM
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originally posted by: supamoto
a reply to: stumason

I guess we don't live in the same country then because the cost of my living has gone up,
regarless of Tory lies & figure manipulation.


Things did go up when inflation was high after the financial collapse, but we've had low inflation for a few years now and wage increases are catching up. I got 2.75% last year when inflation was 0%.


originally posted by: supamoto
You think it's right that the guidline for pay concerning apprentices is around £2/hr?


Most apprentices (I know this as I was one and we have many here where I work) are paid much more than that. I was paid £10k per year back in 1999 when I joined Nortel, which increased to £13K after the first year. The one's we have here at my workplace now are paid around £15k.


originally posted by: supamoto
Minimum wage applies to over 21s?


No it doesn't. At any rate, most people under 21 live with their parents. If they don't, they would get other benefits to top them up.


originally posted by: supamoto
Benefits savagley cut for people who are very unlikely to ever be employed.


Elaborate - I can't counter something as ambiguous as that.


originally posted by: supamoto
The less afluent people of the UK are suffering & there are many.
Repeating government claims does't change the facts that many people in our society are suffering due to govs policies.
The same policies that penalise the poor to keep the rich, well rich.
Food banks UK 2015.
That's just embarrasing for a First World Country.


Not much there to really counter, just a rehash of what you already said. You do know foodbanks have been around for quite a while, don't you?

You sound just like Ed Milliband on the campaign trail and he still didn't "get it" when he was defeated.

You're not Ed, are you?
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posted on May, 10 2015 @ 09:25 AM
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a reply to: crazyewok

"I pulled all my local candidate MP's data on there voting record, expenses and even here background."
And their policies???
What they're going to do for you & your community is what's important here.
See?




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