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Have you ever encountered a Sociopath?

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posted on May, 10 2015 @ 05:17 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

hence self proclaimed




posted on May, 10 2015 @ 05:23 PM
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a reply to: THELONIO

ok ur opinion on the following..

feeling apathy is more of a sign of Alzheimer's and Schizophrenia rather then sociopathic personality

you responding means connecting/helping what ever way and that doesn't fit the profile

what u described about sociaty I completely understand and many feel similar way difference is you may feel it constantly and that is fine. for example I feel the same way about sociaty yet I feel complete empathy for all beings.. you feel complete apathy that does not make you a self centered individual

you have also stated why you are the way you are but don't further blame ur mother..

a sociopath cares only when it is in their self interest you responding what did you gain from it I think nothing.. yet u responded..

ok i ask next
do you purposely destroy someone who proclaimed love for you? others I don't care about..
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posted on May, 10 2015 @ 05:48 PM
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a reply to: Layaly

I had a former President of the Florida Psychiatry Board (or very similar board anyway)that worked with her explain things a bit. He told me that if she made contact or anything to swear out a peace warrant on her. He said she was sociopathic and bipolar, but he suspected she could also be manic depressive. I guess it is hard to determine exactly what is going on when they don't tell the truth. She was extremely dangerous in any case.

Her family suspects she killed her grandmother who was terminally ill and at home and Hospice was involved at the time. They could not prove it, but she seemed to be fine when left with my ex and she had died during that time. The fact she was terminal anyway the case was not pursued. Her family told me after the fact that she had problems since she was 6. At 6 years old the psychiatrist said she was the most cunning and manipulative child he ever examined. I suspect she learned at an early age about dealing with psychiatrists and authorities and perfected it through life.



posted on May, 10 2015 @ 05:56 PM
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a reply to: spirit_horse

you are joking
if you knew where and with who you may save someone's life
it just reminds me of few stories
when someone is finally killed there was a history
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posted on May, 10 2015 @ 06:00 PM
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a reply to: Layaly

Sure.
I'm a diagnosed sociopath (antisocial personality disorder). Thru cognitive-behavioral therapy I've learned a set of principles that have made many sorts of sociopathic behaviors incompatible with my outlook.
What of it?
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posted on May, 10 2015 @ 06:02 PM
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a reply to: spirit_horse

yeah no the bipolar was just a comment

deffinately fits a sociopath profile
like mentioned earlier Ted bundy or menson

and we replied similtaniously so I only just read the grandmother thing
your two daughters oh my god have you spoken to them about this?



posted on May, 10 2015 @ 06:04 PM
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a reply to: SpongeBeard

I was asking previously

if you want to expand on your experience with people

your correction please expand on that too
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posted on May, 10 2015 @ 06:50 PM
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a reply to: Layaly

Well, my oldest died in 2005 as a result of a drug overdose. My youngest lives with me now, she is 23, and has blessed me with a granddaughter and grandson. I have explained things in detail to them including all the police reports. It was a bit hard to do, as she is their mother. However, after the fact they could see it all themselves. The whole thing they lived through and it was the reason I believe my daughter overdosed. She just couldn't handle everything. My youngest was suicidal herself after her sister died at 15 in 2005. I am a bit over protective from life experience. So, I try to talk to her as much as she is willing. We have had very long in depth talks about the whole thing since she has grown up into a full grown woman now. As I said before, it is hard to grasp it all when you don't think like one. I think my daughter had a hard time with that, i.e. not being able to think like that.

I realize I could save someone from her. I actually tried that once and almost got into it with one of her boyfriends. All I was doing was warning him. He didn't see it like me. It cost him his law enforcement career in the Navy. And that just brings you back into their sights for trying to interfere in their relationships. Not a good idea with a sociopath. All I can do is be prepared and do my best to make sure the family is careful, like my daughter. Mainly imho, from manipulation because I don't think she would harm her daughter. She has continued committing an array of crimes and it has only got worse because she no longer fears prison.

I actually tried to get a warning put in law enforcement computers as to her when they pull up her record. The reason is I wanted them to be aware that if something happened that they need to look a little deeper into the issue because she is so deceptive and dangerous. I seemed to be rebuffed in those efforts, however later an officer told me they were all aware of her. I don't know if it was because of dealing with her and her crimes or they eventually did put some warning in there. For example, people that have concealed carry licenses a warning pops up showing they are probably armed. It is just good information to know before you deal with someone imho anyway. I feel the same way about her, but more on investigations after the fact. She is a beautiful woman and men are often to willing to overlook things for some reason. For example, she actually went out with a fire fighter that came and got me from the scene when I was shot years afterwards when she got out and he didn't even realize who she was. Fortunately, his colleagues did and ended it in a matter of a few days.

And I don't joke about her. I only post this stuff so it may possibly save someone dealing with someone like her. I can't be running around worrying who she may encounter and deal with. She has lived in several states since getting out of prison as well. It is a sad state of affairs. Being a fellow CT'er I don't like to say you should run a background check on someone before you get too seriously involved with someone on a personal relationship basis, but I don't know any other way for someone to figure out they are with an extremely dangerous person without it. Even then, some have never been caught doing wrong and the background check would not help you. Now the background check pulls in like 17 social media accounts from different social media like FB, MySpace, etc. You may be able to divine something with that. She was on FB once and my nephew had posted something about country girls will shoot you and she came there and was posting. Nephew called her 'shooter' and she had no problem admitting she did it. Heck, she told lots of people. I know because the family has had out of state calls from other guys family members trying to find out if she really did that. Why she says that is beyond me. Perhaps in some way she is using it for some other end like scaring people in order to manipulate them somehow.

Oh, I almost forgot. My own mother did not tell me about 3 years into our marriage that she could shoot me any time and get away with it. I only found out after everything happened and my family was irate she never said anything. My mother said she didn't want to start some big fight between the families, although she wish she had. Talk about jaw on the floor moment! So, there are things that I look back on and say there were warning signs. Perhaps I didn't know of them though. And, she did not ever try to harm me while married. It was 7 years after our divorce. The theory is she thought that due to my job they would not be able to determine who shot me and she would get custody of the girls back. She could not do it in court no matter how many times she and her family tried and no matter what lies they told. I think it was an act of desperation on a sociopaths level. My daughters were 9 and 11 then.


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posted on May, 11 2015 @ 08:28 AM
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a reply to: spirit_horse

you are truly an amazing person
I admire you for all the strength you had to cope. i am incapable to comprehend stuff like this.. it is beyond human strength... and u all can be humble about it but truth is you deserve so much credit..
again every word would be nothing in comparison to what you deserve to hear



posted on May, 11 2015 @ 01:46 PM
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a reply to: Layaly
I am sorry, I dont know what else to say to you, I have tried to explain my conditions, you seem to want to fit all people into a neat little package. Maybe you should ask yourself why I am conversing with you, is it because it pleases me or because I want to please you. Not sure if this has any bearing on the subject, but to control my urges and especially my bipolar, i have always relied very heavily on cannabis, it helps alot. I do not hurt the people in my life because i love them, but that says that i'm not a sociopath in your list of symptoms, how can i love, because that is what i want and the bipolar creates emotional instabilities in me



posted on May, 11 2015 @ 04:22 PM
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Not all sociopaths are bad, as sherlock says in the show sherlock, he's a "Highly functioning sociopath" lol
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posted on May, 11 2015 @ 10:01 PM
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a reply to: THELONIO

I just say this.. my opinion
u deffinately fit bipolar (like 100%)
are u on meds?
very interesting
so who were u pleasing? u or me



posted on May, 11 2015 @ 10:02 PM
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a reply to: starwae

just yesterday
I read somewhere psychologist saying to stop calling sherlock a sociopath
lol I am in love with R. Downey Jr.
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posted on May, 11 2015 @ 10:28 PM
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a reply to: THELONIO

and I am sorry for misinterpretation

it is very confusing
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posted on May, 14 2015 @ 04:26 PM
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a reply to: Layaly

Unfortunately, while I pretty much hate the whole sociopathy vs psychopathy bull dung, your definition is actually someone incorrect. Psychopathy tends towards the absolute inability to form anything but shallow or easily manipulated relationships with others. In sociopathy, it is most certainly difficult, but not in anyway impossible. Sociopathy often stems from environment and sometimes traumatic pasts where psychopathy is usually seen as born/genetic. Another big difference is spontaneity versus planning (S vs P)

Sociopathy is shock and awe and unregulated violence (WHEN it becomes violent) whereas psychopathy is cold, calm and calculated.

So just because someone who may be sociopathic forms or attempts a connection it does not invalidate sociopathic tendencies

I do understand though that sometimes people greatly enjoy self-diagnosis or enjoy diagnoses when they are made so yes it is the internet and you have to take grains of salt as they come...but my point was an attempt to reach or make a connection is not impossible in the terms of sociopathy

Either way though, anti-social PD is tough to work with.

To the OP, yes I would say out of 800-900 patients in the ER and the 40-50 or so individual clients I have met, I'd say I've run across three people who meet anti-social PD and sociopathic tendencies...one of them was a severe lesson learned as my approach was careless and my head almost came off

But I don't believe anti-social PD is an impossible disorder to tackle



posted on May, 14 2015 @ 04:31 PM
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a reply to: Layaly

Ted Bundy VERY MUCH fits psychopathy...not sociopathy...he was extremely maniuplative, complete incabale of caring and thoroughly well-planned and prepared. Psychopathy by a long shot

Also...how precisely are you diagnosing THELONIO Bipolar 100% again?

Sorry not attempting to be too blatant



posted on May, 16 2015 @ 07:04 AM
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a reply to: KyoZero

it is just confusing because I read a psychological review claiming Bundy was a sociopath..

but I agree
even with the stories I would label most psychopathic
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posted on May, 16 2015 @ 07:06 AM
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a reply to: [post=19345973]KyoZero

take it from someone who has been around mental hospitals


and I said what ever the label
that behaviour is ANTI SOCIAL
that people get hurt in a process should be at importance here

sorry dude lost the plot for a second



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posted on May, 16 2015 @ 08:49 PM
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a reply to: Layaly

Well take it from a licensed therapist and a diagnostician...you don't and generally can't and shouldn't diagnose people online



posted on Jun, 5 2015 @ 05:51 PM
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a reply to: Layaly

yep my recent ex wife was like this....

She faked it really really good though , there were signals here and there but by the time it started becoming apparent i was hooplessly in love with her and we were married , were together for many years....

It always ends up coming out tho....in the things they do ,or rather dont do....

most of the time it manifests in the fact that they say they care so much about you, yet they dont show it, and then if you bring it up, they blame you....

One turning point for me was I was actually hit by a car, I was ok, but, while I was getting this guys info , I just txt my wife and said "my god i just got hit by a car" Her response was "Well we dont need that" not a phone call to see if I was ok, nothing...and that was it....

That spoke so loud to me, they care only for what involves them....and youre only as useful to them as what they can get out of you.

Its a sad state, and getting away is very veyr hard.....



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