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Jade Helm = Invasion of Iran? Finally a Respectable Theory

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posted on May, 8 2015 @ 12:00 PM
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Like most here on ATS, I've been fatigued by the countless threads about Jade Helm. It seems that this training exercise has stuck a nerve nationwide, and everyone is hopping on the conspiracy theory train to figure out what the purpose of this exercise is.

I do not believe it is a plan to declare martial law, that idea to me is ludicrous. The forces involved in the exercise are too small for this objective.

However, I stumbled upon a theory on another forum that I feel may be realistic.

How 'Jade Helm' could be a mock invasion of Iran

First, let's just remember the basics of what is involved with this operation:


According to the leaked proposal for the operation, service members will practice:

– Operating outside the normal support mechanisms
– Adapting to unfamiliar terrain, social and economic conditions
– Operating in and around communities where anything out the ordinary will be spotted and reported (Locals are the first to notice something out of place)
– The opportunity to work with civilians to gain their trust and an understanding of the issues
The main focus of the exercise appears to be Texas, including inhabited areas of Texas. The operation will include Army Special Forces (Green Berets), Navy SEALS, US Marine Corps Expeditionary Unites, US Army 82nd Airborne Division, as well as USAF and USMC SOCOM and “Interagency partners,”


Now, if we take the widely circulated map of the Jade Helm operation, and turn it to a slight angle (and attach labels), we get this:



Make sense?

What if this exercise is actually a dry-run for an invasion of Iran?

Now, I'm no military expert, but it seems to me that you cannot invade a country with just a couple thousand special forces. No, you would need more infantry to hold any sort of ground.

But, if you wanted to take out specialized targets, such as nuclear facilities, missile facilities, etc. You may need forces on the ground to select targets, confirm kills, etc.

Does this make sense?

I feel like this could ACTUALLY be the reason behind this operation.

Check out the link I included, it provides MUCH more analysis for how each of these states could accurately represent the countries that wowuld be encountered in this type of operation.
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(post by teslahowitzer removed for a serious terms and conditions violation)

posted on May, 8 2015 @ 12:12 PM
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If this is true the US could really use the training. Iran is not a cakewalk like Iraq. A lot of Bush in Iran.



posted on May, 8 2015 @ 12:13 PM
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a reply to: gatorboi117

Mock invasion ?

That could be true. Unless of course there is a Walmart in Iran and we have a tunnel connecting to it.



posted on May, 8 2015 @ 12:15 PM
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originally posted by: teslahowitzer
.but Obummer would not do such a thing to his "brothers in arms" we will have to wait on a REAL potus...


YEAH WAR RAR RAR RAR thats the true measure of a POTUS!




posted on May, 8 2015 @ 12:16 PM
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originally posted by: Greathouse
a reply to: gatorboi117

Mock invasion ?

That could be true. Unless of course there is a Walmart in Iran and we have a tunnel connecting to it.


Or they are training for storming bunkers in Iran?


In fact Iran and North Korea the most likley hotspots for war would likely have extensive tunnel systems.


Likley the training is for a mixture of things. Possible ME military intervention, future Civil war ect



posted on May, 8 2015 @ 12:21 PM
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a reply to: gatorboi117

Well, you've blown the chances of any suprise attack.

Im not sure how many iranian clerics are members of ats, so maybe you've not blown their cover.

Nice theory btw
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posted on May, 8 2015 @ 12:22 PM
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a reply to: gatorboi117

This is a much more thought out theory than most I've read about. It actually does make sense to me.

However, I hope this theory is wrong on every level. Training scenarios I have no problem with. The problem is, training scenarios tend to almost always become realized. We have no business even thinking about going to war with Iran right now.



posted on May, 8 2015 @ 12:28 PM
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I suspect that the US leadership has decided Iran will go. It's only a matter of when.



posted on May, 8 2015 @ 12:32 PM
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a reply to: crazyewok

Which by coincidence is what the military does year-round.


Training for every scenario. Honestly there's nothing really strange about that.

Here's a comparison, threads were started conspiracies launched when it was learned that the Maryland State police were flying over the riot in Baltimore and filming.

The state police response "yeah we do that all the time when there's events on the ground".

Do you think the united kingdom hasn't trained in desert warfare?
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posted on May, 8 2015 @ 12:33 PM
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originally posted by: Greathouse
a reply to: crazyewok

Which by coincidence is what the military does year-round.


Training for every scenario. Honestly there's nothing really strange about that.

Here's a comparison, threads were started conspiracies launched what it was learned that the Maryland State police were flying over the riot in Baltimore and filming.

The state police response "yeah we do that all the time when there's little events on the ground".

Do you think the united kingdom hasn't trained in desert warfare?


Not saying its wrong to train. Got to be prepared for everything. But hopefully it stays as only training.



posted on May, 8 2015 @ 12:35 PM
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a reply to: crazyewok oh bloody crap....you are correct...bowing to leaders, apology tours, lying, backstabbing his own voting base, lying, selling out American jobs, lying, that's a real potus...wth? Im just saying this wimp is not a leader, just a liar. If you are gonna get real, you need a real leader...but no worries, UK is safe from all things... brutal.....



posted on May, 8 2015 @ 12:38 PM
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originally posted by: teslahowitzer
a reply to: crazyewok oh bloody crap....you are correct...bowing to leaders, apology tours, lying, backstabbing his own voting base, lying, selling out American jobs, lying, that's a real potus...wth? Im just saying this wimp is not a leader, just a liar. If you are gonna get real, you need a real leader...but no worries, UK is safe from all things... brutal.....



Obama has made plenty of mistakes to make him a crap president.

Not starting wars at the drop of a hate like some aggressive attack dog is not one of them.



posted on May, 8 2015 @ 12:38 PM
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No, this theory doesn't make any sense at all.

It's actually quite ridiculous if you actually think that this is how a government trains/plans for an invasion.

No, it's actually just a massive security operation countering the real threat of ISIS attacking the very states just over the Mexican border.

It's being called an exercise so as 1) not to panic the public and 2) to publicly announce to ISIS as a deterrent that they know what they're going to do, without publicly admitting it -- this will cause internal issues within ISIS ranks because they know there's a rat in the hole. It's all mind games with the enemy. It's not martial law, it's about preventing 9/11 2.0

Jade Helm & impending ISIS attack



posted on May, 8 2015 @ 12:44 PM
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as former military it doesnt make any sense to me that this would be valid.

Why would you do extensive training in an area where not only are the cultural norms completely different, but so are the basic city structures and operating procedures of civilians and law enforcement....

It wouldnt mesh with adapting to that environment.....

Thats a kin to practicing for a raid on an airplane by doing practice runs on a warehouse....



posted on May, 8 2015 @ 12:50 PM
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originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Greathouse
a reply to: crazyewok

Which by coincidence is what the military does year-round.


Training for every scenario. Honestly there's nothing really strange about that.

Here's a comparison, threads were started conspiracies launched what it was learned that the Maryland State police were flying over the riot in Baltimore and filming.

The state police response "yeah we do that all the time when there's little events on the ground".

Do you think the united kingdom hasn't trained in desert warfare?


Not saying its wrong to train. Got to be prepared for everything. But hopefully it stays as only training.


Yes hopefully as happens on the vast majority of training exercises.

One of the things I worry about with all this Jade helm talk. Is that it desensitizes people. Talk of a military takeover and martial law happens at least every few years over training exercises.

Off the top of my head.........
In 2012 the training in Miami had sites going crazy.

The same thing happened in 2008 when the seals trained in Seattle.

The rush to doom porn every time this happens. May cause a event that we should pay attention to. To pass without discussion or attention because of the repeated failed predictions
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posted on May, 8 2015 @ 12:53 PM
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originally posted by: Greathouse

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Greathouse
a reply to: crazyewok

Which by coincidence is what the military does year-round.


Training for every scenario. Honestly there's nothing really strange about that.

Here's a comparison, threads were started conspiracies launched what it was learned that the Maryland State police were flying over the riot in Baltimore and filming.

The state police response "yeah we do that all the time when there's little events on the ground".

Do you think the united kingdom hasn't trained in desert warfare?


Not saying its wrong to train. Got to be prepared for everything. But hopefully it stays as only training.


Yes hopefully as happens on the vast majority of training exercises.

One of the things I worry about with all this Jade helm talk. Is that it desensitizes people. Talk of a military takeover and martial law happens at least every few years over training exercises.

Off the top of my head.........
In 2012 the training in Miami had sites going crazy.

The same thing happened in 2008 when the seals trained in Seattle.

The rush to doom porn every time this happens. May cause a event that we should pay attention to. To pass without discussion or attention because of the repeated failed predictions.


15th Time I edited using reply.
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posted on May, 8 2015 @ 01:03 PM
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originally posted by: teslahowitzer
Here come the crap from the muzzies....haman10...hit the defense keyboard, sorry, could not help it......there is no way there will be a ground offensive in Iran, just too impractical. if anything at all, when the IAEA gets booted too many times, it will be a air campaign with tech few know about....bunker busters, cruise missiles, etc...but Obummer would not do such a thing to his "brothers in arms" we will have to wait on a REAL potus...


And just what is a real potus? An Israeli bootlicker of a President that will attack nations because Israel cries about like the last loser we had in office? Iran has done nothing to justify an attack by America. If we are going to attack nations over nukes we should start with the ones that didn't sign the NPT and has attacked America.
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posted on May, 8 2015 @ 01:08 PM
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a reply to: teslahowitzer
I almost took your post seriously until you used a funny name to address the President. School has not let out for the summer. Please get back to class.



posted on May, 8 2015 @ 01:22 PM
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a reply to: gatorboi117
I had thought about this possibility for several reasons.
1- duration and area of the exercise . When the military goes through standard training it is usually of way less duration (maybe 30 days) and in a limited area.
2- people speak of the low numbers of participating military personnel . Possibly the ones that speak in the language of the "target" location ?
3- Wal-Marts - perhaps they will be using these as C&C centers that do not have to be in the exact states.
4- Attempting to blend in to the populace - again , perhaps dressed as the "target" location
5-Other threads where people post of seeing more than normal military movement lately



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