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originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
a reply to: Megatronus
Sturgeon was secretly recorded saying that she would prefer a Tory Government as it would benefit her agenda. Why Scotland voted NO to independence, yet produced an overwhelming result for the SNP is a bit confusing. However, I am sure that by the next election, she will be clambering for another one.
originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
a reply to: crazyewok
Which doesn't really make sense as they will have little to no influence in Westminster and no mainstream party will ever form a coalition with them.
originally posted by: SecretFace
As we await what looks to be a Conservative majority, it amazes at just how many Labour voters are absolutely clueless as to how this happened. This happened because Labour refused to engage the average people. This happened because Labour for 13 years in their last reign, wrecked the country, wrecked communities, wrecked public services, raised taxation to highs Tories have not and gave infinitely more power to the banks than Tories ever did.
Look at the votes, as a percentage of votes, UKIP are the third largest party in the country now and Conservative the first...Has the penny dropped yet? No, the sheer arrogance of the left will blame everything on Tory smear campaigns, media influence, and UKIP racist rhetoric. How about open your eyes! How about voter experience! How about voters working and/or living with what UKIP are addressing! How about voters benefiting more under Tories than they ever did under Labour! How about the thought of Labour coming in and wrecking the place, let alone with an SNP nightmare coalition, would send us back 40 years!
This absolute mess of a defeat for Labour comes down to their arrogance. Their arrogance that they had Scotland all sewn up and their arrogance that the rest of us would rebel against Tory austerity and simply vote Labour. No, where I live and where many I know live, as well as many across where I work, they voted for either Conservative or UKIP, because those areas and their lives have been severely hit by past Labour policies, even now, as they spread out from the usual Labour stronghold slums of the inner cities. Of course Labour still won in the inner cities, those people benefit greatly from a Labour spending spree and anti British mandate. Of course many northerners also voted Labour, its programmed in to them to hate Thatcher and the Tories for closing the mines...Without ever saying that Wilson closed more mines in his two terms than Thatcher did in her two, or the economics of the mining industry, but that’s a separate issue. Still notice that even in the north, Tories broke through and UKIP did not fair badly in terms of share of the vote.
The biggest loss I think to this is that a good few million voted UKIP, but UKIP as it stands only have one seat in parliament. The system needs to change to be representative of this.
Of course things may not change, the same problems will be the same problems, but take note of the feeling in this country and Labour might get somewhere. If both Tories and Labour continue to ignore this feeling, then I can see UKIP certainly riding high in the next election.
Every country needs to look after its own, this is no different for Britain.