The Conservative UK Election Majority - Selfish and Greedy or What Else?

a reply to: gortexnew labour leader should be Alan Johnson. He should have been the leader for the past 5 years

originally posted by: woodwardjnr
a reply to: gortexnew labour leader should be Alan Johnson. He should have been the leader for the past 5 years

oooo yes good idea.

or Ed Balls (ohh wait thats right...)

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite
I would have personally taxed the better off at 60% for 5 years because they have doubled their wealth in the last 5 years while so many have suffered and will continue to do so under these elitist parasites!

I am not a supporter of "envy taxation", considering the top 1% earners (over £150K per year) contribute 30% of the tax take. I don't like it, but these people are already contributing vast sums to the country.

I think they have won an argument. It is this. You have to have a decent economy to pay for the public sector - they both go hand in hand. Labour never really "got it", thinking that they could just borrow endlessly to get a decent public sector. People have seen through this.

I didnt realise I was in the top 1% - FU you poor smelling poor people....

I feel dirty now, do any of you poor people want to clean me?

originally posted by: pikestaff
a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite

Oliver Cromwell? the commander who had some of his own men shot? Really?

Yes they were traitors to the cause!

originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite

originally posted by: pikestaff
a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite

Oliver Cromwell? the commander who had some of his own men shot? Really?

Yes they were traitors to the cause!

Thats not democracy.......,,


Sounds like north korea to me.......

The Scottish National Party got what they wanted, a Tory government. Even though they publicly announced that it would be the worst outcome. They took seats from Labour in Scotland, persuaded the rest of the Uk to vote any other party apart from labour but still insist the worst result would be another tory government.

They will now call for another referendum and indeed, this time split the UK up. If she is sensible, she will wait until the cuts kick in, the poor and disadvantaged are hit the hardest whilst the rich get richer. Civil unrest on a massive scale is on the horizon.

At least the bankers will get to keep more of their bonuses though I suppose.i wont mention the non doms, they deserve special tax breaks because, well they just do.

a reply to: ProleUK

The non doms is a weird issue for me in that most independent reports into non dom tax status show that the Labour proposals would probably raise less rather than more tax. So, whilst it is an unfair anomaly, it is really something of a non issue. This means it was a pretty large mistake for Milliband to make it so central to his proposals.

I genuinely believe that if it could be shown it would raise more tax, it would be an important issue. But as it is......

a reply to: Forensick

I didnt realise I was in the top 1% - FU you poor smelling poor people....

I feel dirty now, do any of you poor people want to clean me?

Michael Gove ? Is that you?

originally posted by: Flavian
a reply to: ProleUK

The non doms is a weird issue for me in that most independent reports into non dom tax status show that the Labour proposals would probably raise less rather than more tax. So, whilst it is an unfair anomaly, it is really something of a non issue. This means it was a pretty large mistake for Milliband to make it so central to his proposals.

I genuinely believe that if it could be shown it would raise more tax, it would be an important issue. But as it is......

Miiliband concentrated on minor issues and ignored the wider ones.......so he lost.

a reply to: Flavian

It's the principle of being allowed non dom status that isn't right.

Tax avoidance in this Country is a disgrace. the tory government will do very little to address tax havens. Yet will do everything to reduce the welfare budget leaving those people who have to cope with disabilities struggling even more.

a reply to: ProleUK

I am not so sure i agree with that. For all their faults, the Tories have always been about economic growth. And really, everything follows on from that. Without the strong economy, you don't have the cash to get anything done. Tax havens don't help the economy, so i can see Gideon going after them this time around.

a reply to: woodwardjnr

labour leader should be Alan Johnson.

Alan Johnson has already had his chance plus he's one of the old guard , Labour need to sweep the decks which is something Miliband didn't or couldn't do , keeping Balls as chancellor was a big mistake , too many bad memories , too much baggage.

John Mann is a northerner who speaks his mind and also speaks like a real person , isn't tainted by the mistakes of the past and in my view would connect with the public and deliver a real Labour government.

John Mann on the recent child abuse claims.

a reply to: woodwardjnr

I see Andy Burnham taking the role.

a reply to: Flavian

Strong economic growth is essential to success for sure. how we achieve it and the negative impact it has on large sections of society is something that needs to be considered.

originally posted by: ProleUK
I see Andy Burnham taking the role.

I think the problem with the Labour Party is that the country does not want socialists in power, so they cannot swing too far to the left. That would defo be suicide.

If Labour wants to redevelop, then they need to cut links with the Trade Unions and reinvent themselves as the custodian of the centre-left. It's no longer good enough to try and pander to the "working class", because that terminology is defunct and rooted in the bad old days. In fact, the truth is that the Labour Party needs to rename themselves Liberals!

a reply to: paraphi

Yes, Labour lost the election when Ed stabbed his brother, who was more centre than left, in the back.

I believe if David Milliband had been party leader, we'd be looking at a labour government coalition with snp.

a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite

Take a country to war based on lies, lose an election on memories.

People simply have not trusted Labour, and the insistance recently that they were not responsible for the UK financial crisis - after being in place for so many years and it happening on their watch has had an effect.

That and the SNP revlution in Scotland have properly done for them.

I'm sad that the Lib-Dems got trounced. I think they were a good counterbalance.

Fact is, no one really saw this one coming - and frankly its been something of a whitewash for the Tories. That doesn't mean that people are evil, or self serving, it means that Labour simply failed.

a reply to: paraphi

If Labour wants to redevelop, then they need to cut links with the Trade Unions and reinvent themselves as the custodian of the centre-left.

I don't see that as a problem as long as the Tories cut their relationship with their main revenue stream ....Big business.

a reply to: neformore

yup!

that is pretty much what i have been saying all morning.

This result is not so much a conservative victory as it is a labour failure.

LOL!

Aside from a few different words (Tory, Labour etc) you all could be talking about the American elections from 2014.

I think that we, as people of the civilized world, are simply tired of the lies and deceptions of the left.

They need to re-educate themselves on economics. Taking care of the people is important yes, but doing so without a self sustaining revenue steam is NEVER a good thing. Nor is alienating those who generate that revenue.

We have the same problems from the left here in the US. Borrow, borrow, borrow, and no plans on how to pay it back.

Good for you my British friends!