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Strong statin-diabetes link seen in large study

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posted on May, 7 2015 @ 08:24 PM
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I stopped taking mine awhile back when I read statins cause brain problems...now to find out they also seem to cause diabtes...We really don't know anything it seems...
My Doctors have been poisoning me. First I learn my Fish Oil may cause me to have Prostate Cancer now I find out my Statin is giving me diabetes. Is anything safe?

Strong statin-diabetes link seen in large study


In a study of nearly 26,000 beneficiaries of Tricare, the military health system, those taking statin drugs to control their cholesterol were 87 percent more likely to develop diabetes. The research confirms past findings on the link between the widely prescribed drugs and diabetes risk. But it is among the first to show the connection in a relatively healthy group of people. The study included only people who at baseline were free of heart disease, diabetes, and other severe chronic disease.




posted on May, 7 2015 @ 08:28 PM
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a reply to: Xeven

About a year ago a friend developed diabetes and her doctor told her a large majority of women on statins were also developing diabetes but then we never heard anymore about it. Thanks for the link I'll have to get this to her.



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 08:29 PM
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a reply to: Xeven

They may be a factor in the development of Alzheimer's as well.

The Clue to Why Low Fat Diet and Statins may Cause Alzheimer’s



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 08:30 PM
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originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: Xeven

They may be a factor in the development of Alzheimer's as well.

The Clue to Why Low Fat Diet and Statins may Cause Alzheimer’s


This is reason I quit taking it...now I am glad I did even more so...



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 08:33 PM
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Oh and they may be making us fat too...OMG nutz.

From source in OP.


Statin users were also 14 percent more likely to become overweight or obese after being on the drugs.



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 08:46 PM
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a reply to: Xeven

What is safe is... good quality herbs and vitamins...organic food...exercise and doing ones own research. I would seek out someone who is credible and into holistic alternative methods of healing.



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 08:46 PM
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Be careful drawing conclusions. The same study cited above also says:


"No patient should stop taking their statins based on our study, since statin therapy is a cornerstone in treatment of cardiovascular diseases and has been clearly shown to lower mortality and disease progression," he says. "Rather, this study should alert researchers, [clinical] guideline writers, and policymakers that short-term clinical trials might not fully describe the risks and benefits of long-term statin use for primary prevention."


I personally believe statins are over-prescribed, but the fact is that high cholesterol and cardio-vascular disease are clearly connected and cardio-vascular disease accounts for 610,000 deaths per year, 1 in 4. Every year there are 735,000 heart attacks (American: CDC is source.) Deaths from diabetes? 75,000. (Source.)

So your choice is this: Would you rather stop taking statins, which attempts to lower your risk for heart disease which kills 1 in 4 because you risk getting diabetes, which kills 1 in 40? I know it's not as simple as that because nothing is absolute, but the fact is that type 2 diabetes is controllable if you do get it (diet, exercise, Metforin, etc.), and a heart attack isn't.
edit on 5/7/2015 by schuyler because: typos



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 09:01 PM
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There was already a concern about this before the big shove to write prescriptions came out. But of course, there was no verified accepted evidence to prove it.



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 09:33 PM
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originally posted by: schuyler

I personally believe statins are over-prescribed ... Snip

So your choice is this: Would you rather stop taking statins ... Snip


Excellent use of common sense. My doc made it absolutely clear, that once I began taking cholesterol meds ... that I was on them for life.

I want off. A massive coronary may be preferable at my age. Haven't done that yet, but I hear it's quite an exciting experience.



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 10:14 PM
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originally posted by: wondering5740
a reply to: Xeven

About a year ago a friend developed diabetes and her doctor told her a large majority of women on statins were also developing diabetes but then we never heard anymore about it. Thanks for the link I'll have to get this to her.


Apparently in a lot of people, the statins stop an enzyme produced in the liver, for muscle growth, this can cause nasty upper back pain as well. After getting diagnosed with type 2, I knocked off all the Meds, and drank Cider vinegar with all meals, two capfuls. Plus I stopped the main cause of cholesterol which is Dairy. Within two weeks my Blood pressure and Blood sugar had dropped to normal levels. I only monitor the Blood sugar every couple of weeks now, just to make sure.

The Docs will put you on Metformin , aspirin, statins and blood pressure pills. Like some automatic response. The metformin will cause lower leg circulation problems with an attending rash, the statins will cause an increase in the likelihood of having to take insulin shots, within the following years, the statins will also cause glaucoma in fifty per cent within two years. Plus make the diabetes worse. Of course the aspirin will cause an increase in the chances of a brain bleed. Type 2 is pure lifestyle, and its up to you , if you take the pills your future as a patient is assured.



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 10:30 PM
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Another reason why I'm pissed at this country. It creates health problems with nutritionally unsound food recommendations then creates pharmaceuticals to help with the illness and disease caused which then causes more health problems.

When will this dangerous stupidity end?



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 10:48 PM
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originally posted by: Cricketine
Another reason why I'm pissed at this country. It creates health problems with nutritionally unsound food recommendations then creates pharmaceuticals to help with the illness and disease caused which then causes more health problems.

When will this dangerous stupidity end?



Doctor Mosley, was interesting the other night, he changed his diet to twice as much meat for a month, his Blood pressure at the end was up from, 117/78 to 142/ over something or other, he tried to get two professors, one in Denmark, and the other in Cambridge in England to say something definitive about Dairy,( milk is essentially liquid meat) The older professor said don't touch it at all . The One in England said , the results are inconclusive. If that's the case how come most people have to give up their blood pressure medication, ten days after stopping Dairy because their Blood pressure gets to low? Some of these idiots are getting funding, from Dairy, and have to be very careful on what they say.



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 11:06 PM
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originally posted by: schuyler
Be careful drawing conclusions. The same study cited above also says:


"No patient should stop taking their statins based on our study, since statin therapy is a cornerstone in treatment of cardiovascular diseases and has been clearly shown to lower mortality and disease progression," he says. "Rather, this study should alert researchers, [clinical] guideline writers, and policymakers that short-term clinical trials might not fully describe the risks and benefits of long-term statin use for primary prevention."


I personally believe statins are over-prescribed, but the fact is that high cholesterol and cardio-vascular disease are clearly connected and cardio-vascular disease accounts for 610,000 deaths per year, 1 in 4. Every year there are 735,000 heart attacks (American: CDC is source.) Deaths from diabetes? 75,000. (Source.)

So your choice is this: Would you rather stop taking statins, which attempts to lower your risk for heart disease which kills 1 in 4 because you risk getting diabetes, which kills 1 in 40? I know it's not as simple as that because nothing is absolute, but the fact is that type 2 diabetes is controllable if you do get it (diet, exercise, Metforin, etc.), and a heart attack isn't.


The arguments for statins are being riddled all of the time by new studies that at the linkage they supposedly have with heart disease not to mention the side effects that are related to the taking of statins beyond this NEW ADDITIONAL finding. I'd rather die with my boots on anyway.



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 11:14 PM
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This happened to me as well. Either our science is messed up in regards to these drugs or more likely these companies want to create a larger marketing tree of medications.



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 11:53 PM
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a reply to: Xeven

Could it be that people feel they don't have to worry about what they put in their mouths because the meds will make up for it?

Like the person choosing the double burger, super sizing and going for the pie because they opted for the diet soda.



posted on May, 8 2015 @ 12:04 AM
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For many years the side effects of statins is been know, the reason is coming out now is because the human cases that are showing off with the side effects.

We ask how come if the side effects were known before they didn't warn the public, the answer is one that you may know already, is about money and profit margins.

Big pharma was selling statins like candy in the US because people rather take a pill than addressing what is hurting their health.

When statins came out first time they were only to be prescribed after a person already didn't have much choice, and do to statins side effects they were to be only closed monitored and for short term.

Now you get statins for life.

Who are we to blame, even I was offered to take statins by my doctor, I told her thanks but no thanks, my brain and hart will love me for that.



posted on May, 8 2015 @ 02:00 AM
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originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: Xeven

For many years the side effects of statins is been know, the reason is coming out now is because the human cases that are showing off with the side effects.

We ask how come if the side effects were known before they didn't warn the public, the answer is one that you may know already, is about money and profit margins.

Big pharma was selling statins like candy in the US because people rather take a pill than addressing what is hurting their health.

When statins came out first time they were only to be prescribed after a person already didn't have much choice, and do to statins side effects they were to be only closed monitored and for short term.

Now you get statins for life.

Who are we to blame, even I was offered to take statins by my doctor, I told her thanks but no thanks, my brain and hart will love me for that.


The main problem is the reality of what killed a patient is nicely blurred, when it comes to the time of writing the death cert. It would be complications due too ? since its the medical profession writing the Certificate, the big Pharma, making the money, they seem to get protected for a very long time before the poor medicine is withdrawn from sale. Its all very cosy. Now we have a billion dollar industry in fake Pharmaceuticals, with backstreet chemists mixing the anti cancer and aids drugs at a fraction of the price. Because the drug companies are making extortionate profits. Its become a money grabbing mess, and a free for all.



posted on May, 8 2015 @ 04:04 AM
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That's the US big pharma for ya.

Statins also speed up formation of arthritis and hearing problems.

Lowering cholesterol the real way involves changing foods and behaviours, but most people just want to pop a pharma pill

While still eating same old processed food, and thinking that walking for 10 min is exercise.



posted on May, 8 2015 @ 05:54 AM
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originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: schuyler

I personally believe statins are over-prescribed ... Snip

So your choice is this: Would you rather stop taking statins ... Snip


Excellent use of common sense. My doc made it absolutely clear, that once I began taking cholesterol meds ... that I was on them for life.

I want off. A massive coronary may be preferable at my age. Haven't done that yet, but I hear it's quite an exciting experience.


Statins lower cholesterol by limiting production of cholesterol in the liver.

But now we know that cholesterol does not cause heart attacks and may actually be one of the body's defenses against the infections which do cause them.

So why continue with statins?



posted on May, 8 2015 @ 07:25 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut
So why continue with statins?

Because the doc said so. Gotta be just as careful stopping a med as starting one. We'll see what happens over the next six or nine months. I need to put in some serious effort getting back into shape ... which means a lot less ATS.



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