Here are the 5 best things that have happened to Bernie Sanders since he announced.

Bernie is my choice far for President, with nobody 2nd. I found this over at The Raw Story and found #4 the most compelling. “Anyone who works 40 hours in a week in America should not be in poverty.

Go Bernie, Go

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He is anti-2nd amendment. Deal breaker for me.

a reply to: ugmold

Plenty of room in the pool...the more the merrier for this election....

a reply to: Metallicus

What makes him anti second?

Did he vote to take guns away from people completely?

originally posted by: Metallicus
He is anti-2nd amendment. Deal breaker for me.

His state has some of the loosest gun laws in the country.

a reply to: ugmold

I'm still on the fence on who I will support but after watching this video he has sparked a interest. I'm researching his voting record and will decide who to support sometime in the next year.

He sure has a plan that would work for everyone at this point:

He is one of the best choices but it wont happen. He and Clinton will split up liberal votes and Jeb slides into the helm. Politicians wont and never have fixed society. Thats for philosophers, engineers, and scientists. Politicians are like a wall between the rooms that house all the solutions of the world.

Paul should have stayed home on this exchange:



Rand Equates socialized medical care as slavery. Or if you have a right to free healthcare all the doctors and other people that work in this field will become slaves with cops showing up in the middle of the night to hall you away to treat some one. Complete idiotic stance to take, are school teachers or police or firefighters employed by the government slaves?

I can see this guy gaining alot of support for his bid for president.

a reply to: LDragonFire

He has a point. He isnt as naive as most progressives to think we could make a usuable free healthcare system. Maybe in some other alternate universive.

You use three examples of huge wasted money and terribly out of touch programs. All three of those public sector jobs are a mess. The firedept the least so having the least far reaching scope.

I think its pretty niave to think our politicians will come together to to make some great social programs. Everyone of them has very serious problems and are some of the industrialized worlds worst.

We need a leader to have us take back our country and stop doing and rather start undoing decades of failed programs.

Should we have national healthcare you bet. Is it possible in America no way.

Every progressive has failed to help the poverty situation and always take the easiest of solutions to garner votes with benifits that are short sighted and in the long term destructive.

a reply to: LDragonFire

Did he seriously just take that stance?!
a reply to: luthier

How is it not possible in America?

Talk about naive.

a reply to: luthier

How will he split the vote?

originally posted by: Metallicus
He is anti-2nd amendment. Deal breaker for me.

Did you just make that up? Haha
Bernie Sanders, the Democratic presidential candidate who does not support gun control
He doesn't own a gun. But comes from a blue state with high gun ownership rates.
Similar to Michigan where I live

Edit: I'll admit I had to look up his stance on guns because I've never heard him chime in gun control. That was the first article I came across. He voted against the Brady act? But did vote to expand background checks to more gun sales which a majority of NRA members support.
Go Bernie!!

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: luthier

How will he split the vote?

He is an independent. So he can run opposed to hillary. He isnt going to be getting many conservative votes but he will get some of the democratic votes. Every election for decades has been split down the middle republic dem with a very small margin. I think this time that small margin will be sanders taking not enough to win but enough that dems dont either.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: LDragonFire

Did he seriously just take that stance?!
a reply to: luthier

How is it not possible in America?

Talk about naive.

Naive? You think suddenly all the conservatives will suddenly pass a national healthcare bill? Half the country is against it. Look what obama tried to pass it turned into a bull# law that strenghtens the insurance industry.

Sorry guys your dreaming. The best we can hope for in this country is nonprofit competing insurance and some regulation changes to allow skilled nurses to do things drs dont need too.

We dont even agree on global warming.

Its time to stop putting faith in politics folks. There aint crap being passed until we revoke the tele comm act and citizens united. Your just deluding yourselves that the oligarchy doesnt already exist.

a reply to: luthier

So it is only not possible cause of the political differences?

That I will agree with, apologies.

He may be an independent, but he caucuses with the Democrats and he's seeking the Democratic nomination.

He's not seeking a third party nomination like Ralph Nader did, which did indeed split the vote.

This is different, it means he won't be running in opposition to Hillary. Instead, it will be either Bernie or Hillary at the top of the Democratic ticket, not both.

I for one, hope he wins that nomination.

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: luthier

How will he split the vote?

He is an independent. So he can run opposed to hillary. He isnt going to be getting many conservative votes but he will get some of the democratic votes. Every election for decades has been split down the middle republic dem with a very small margin. I think this time that small margin will be sanders taking not enough to win but enough that dems dont either.

He is running on the democratic ticket. He will get the nomination or not. There won't be a Ralph Nader situation like 2000, where he draws votes from the democratic nominee, allowing a moron Bush to tank the economy.

a reply to: Sremmos80

Yes. I believe in national health care. But the politicians will make such a mess of it, people will still suffer. Europe came together to help each other after ww2. We just left our soldiers to have no housing and buy up crappy cars and goods.

We have serious problem in the country and we need to start finding common ground. Talking about national healthcare is only going to divide people. We need to try and compromise and help people. There is still common ground somewhere. The swiss have a lot of good free market ideas that skate the socialist line. I think we could learn from their healthcare and social welfare programs.

originally posted by: HighFive

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: luthier

How will he split the vote?

He is an independent. So he can run opposed to hillary. He isnt going to be getting many conservative votes but he will get some of the democratic votes. Every election for decades has been split down the middle republic dem with a very small margin. I think this time that small margin will be sanders taking not enough to win but enough that dems dont either.

He is running on the democratic ticket. He will get the nomination or not. There won't be a Ralph Nader situation like 2000, where he draws votes from the democratic nominee, allowing a moron Bush to tank the economy.

Oh good. Good luck with hillaries war chest.

Bush had very little to do with anything, thats the problem you see the guy as the problem or solution. Its not. Its the way politics are done. There is zero reason to believe any canidate with billions from special interest are worth anything to the public. Obama, Bush, Clinton all the same fleecing. Clinton signed telecomm which is one of the most destructive acts the US has ever seen. It led the way for citizens united.

Bernie is different. But so is Rand. Neither have a chance. Rand has passed some very good legislation he worked across the aisle to pass for poor in particular. There are plenty of jokers out there to tear down. I dont think he should be one, while i dont feel all his views are good he has far more than almost anyone else. Bernie too.

originally posted by: LDragonFire

Rand Equates socialized medical care as slavery.

If you have to buy whatever your Lords and masters tell you to buy, can you call yourselves free?

Never heard of the guy. Is he in the middle between the Dems and the Republicans?