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Had to Vote Using a Pencil and NOT a Pen. Was Not Happy!

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posted on May, 7 2015 @ 03:51 PM
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a reply to: grainofsand

Wish I had used my pen, but I wanted my vote to count and would'[t waste it as I see this as our only chance to get a referendum on Europe before we become a tiny dot in a huge federal state with no say over our lives.




posted on May, 7 2015 @ 04:02 PM
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a reply to: intrepid

I disagree with you because the votes are taken from the polling stations as they are not counted there. So that means our votes are travelling around in vans to a central counting station. They don't go under escort which means simply that one box with forms with crosses on could easily be substituted for another with crosses to benefit a certain party if that party was prepared to pay enough to driver and courier.

There is no check on the postal votes especially bulk ones from care homes. I can see a number of areas where voting fraud could occur. I don't believe as many here seem to think that voting fraud has never happened before - there is no honour on either side of our Westminster politicians anymore. if they fiddle their expenses they will fiddle someone else's votes, they don't want to loose their lucrative and powerful seats.



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 04:06 PM
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a reply to: Shiloh7

And you don't think that each party would have a vested interest in a correct tally? EVERYONE will be making sure they get every vote coming to them.
It just isn't viable.



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 04:10 PM
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a reply to: paraphi

I don't see the right of someone to ensure their vote is unalterable on a ballot paper as petty - I see it as someone trying to take care that their vote won't be changed in this day and age where politicians are some of the biggest crooks and paedophiles going. There is no standard in public life other than greed and a crow bar would be required to get some of those front benchers and life politicians out. If you can name an altruistic politician in westminster God luck, I can 't think of any, although some do start off that way, they don't last with the perks.

Knowing that one could use a pen and not have their vote wasted, if you think about it, I was actually lied to along with a lot of other people.



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 04:12 PM
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a reply to: Trueman

OK, OK so I hate pencils and prefer pens. and yes I know we live in a monarchy - another of those things that this country could well do with out now awe have four generations to support. Such a pity we didn't borrow the guillotine after the French had finished with it.



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 04:14 PM
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a reply to: Shiloh7
I think pencil has always been the norm. Certainly every election I've ever known. Probably goes back to the days when pens had to be filled with ink, creating a danger of running out.
There are candidate's observers at the count watching out for misbehaviour.



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 04:17 PM
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a reply to: Shiloh7

OK, Shiloh7 @ the moment on the BBC you can see A-Level students in a chain gang of ballot boxes, to a bloke with scissors to crack the seal, which is then passed onto the counters. The first box arrived a the counting house in Newcastle @ 10.02pm. Not much time for tampering.

And with all the disenchanted youth, I doubt he college students even care.



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 04:19 PM
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a reply to: yorkshirelad

When you think about it though there is no way for a member of the public to actually check their vote was not altered. and/or registered against the name of the person they voted for. It is all expected to be accepted on faith that the people who transport and count our votes are honest. Its only on a recount that the votes are ever checked, but there is no means available for a voter to actually check that their vote was not counted for someone else or simply 'lost'.



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 04:21 PM
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originally posted by: Shiloh7
It is all expected to be accepted on faith that the people who transport and count our votes are honest.


NO! Each party makes sure the vote is accurate. No need for "honesty". Accept the word of those that posted here that have worked in the process. It's a GREEDY process. Hard to screw with.



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 04:23 PM
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a reply to: DPrice

Sure I got my panties in a wad, but princess I will never be, although I have been known to 'champion' certain causes and things I think could be a fiddle against the public.



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 04:41 PM
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How would one know if they were actually counted? For all anyone really knows they are lit on fire and play rock scissors paper for the title. Then they put on a little show to make you think they care about little ol you.



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 04:44 PM
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a reply to: theyknowwhoyouare
All the candidates have got their people at the counting process watching it happen, so that they can object if somebody else gets favoured.



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 04:46 PM
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originally posted by: theyknowwhoyouare
How would one know if they were actually counted? For all anyone really knows they are lit on fire and play rock scissors paper for the title. Then they put on a little show to make you think they care about little ol you.


? Because we live in reality with an audited and formalised process.

They could be lying and it may all be made up and the thousands of people involved all be part of an evil conspiracy, but...

www.electoralcommission.org.uk...



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 04:46 PM
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Oops, double post.
edit on 7/5/2015 by paraphi because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 04:54 PM
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a reply to: Shiloh7

Using a pencil is purely to save costs.

One sharpener and a few hundred pencils will last decades.

I'm surprised that yourself and a few others aren't even aware of this, and yes you can bring along your own pen to use..

And do you really think someone is going to get hold of thousands of ballot papers, sit down and rub out your vote and change it?

What's the point, if the system is rigged, or if you believe the system is rigged, there is absolutely no point in altering votes anyway.



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 04:55 PM
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a reply to: Shiloh7

Yeah man, I'm not British at all but I don't know why this pi$$......off big time. I guess I never expected such a thing from a civilized country as yours. It's insulting, all of you my British brothers and sisters have been offended, even those who didn't vote.

Here in U.S. I do not vote, I don't trust any politician of any party.



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 04:59 PM
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originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: theyknowwhoyouare
How would one know if they were actually counted? For all anyone really knows they are lit on fire and play rock scissors paper for the title. Then they put on a little show to make you think they care about little ol you.


? Because we live in reality with an audited and formalised process.

They could be lying and it may all be made up and the thousands of people involved all be part of an evil conspiracy, but...

www.electoralcommission.org.uk...


I was mainly joking, but it is still foolish of you to believe that the game isn't rigged. Your reality is what they have brainwashed you into believing. Dead people are quite fond of voting as well, what does reality say about that?



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 05:00 PM
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a reply to: DISRAELI

All of those people do as they're told



posted on May, 7 2015 @ 05:01 PM
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a reply to: intrepid

You have never heard of dead people voting in the US? People that weren't old enough to vote voting? People voting multiple times? That has happened since the beginning.
Remember Romney's company owned the voting machines?And just last year people here were complaining that their votes were being changed by the machines in front of their eyes! But of course there is nothing to see here,move along. Yeah,thats why this country is in the mess its in. People look the other way.

www.nbcnewyork.com...
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posted on May, 7 2015 @ 05:32 PM
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Seems no one remember the Florida "hanging CHADS" votes...thousands looked at separately to decide if holes were punched all the way thru...a nightmare.....those votes could've changed the count.

America has used #2 pencils for like a hundred years...then punching holes (Still sometimes in some states-we have 50 States and a couple other territories-nothing Iike the same standard everywhere anymore I don't think)...AND pens.

Don't you guys get to vote that much across the pond? Ive personally been voting for over 40 years in US. Many methods, many times, many different ways.

Cheating? Doubtful...they'll be scrutinizing every single count.




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