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Pamela Geller vs Imam Anjem Choudary on Fox News, Hannity: 'You Want Her To Die!'

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posted on May, 9 2015 @ 04:54 PM
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a reply to: buddah6

Not on me to prove your claim.

Show me those killings.




posted on May, 9 2015 @ 05:22 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake

I honestly believe both Geller and Choudary are shills despite their past. They're TV stooges who actually believe their own hype to the point of garnering a following. You see, both hold extreme ideas, and considered way out in left field by the members of each faith. I find it interesting (actually, I find it entertaining...) that these two extremist were put head to head.

Are people that dense to fall for this "engineering of consent" manipulation?

In other words: Do you actually value what any of these two dinks have to say...? Yes, what he has to say reflects a mind that is totally F'd up and so does Geller, but shouldn't that be a warning to accept all the theatrics with a grain of salt?

It's akin to being upset at Hitler for saying, "All Jews must die!" and then asking, "what are your thoughts about him and what do you think about what he had to say?"

Isn't obvious...?

Basically: Do you believe this shinola in the video is real....? Do you actually believe that these two idiots represent Islam and Christianity or do you see how they took two extreme polar opposites in order to get "some" to jump...








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posted on May, 9 2015 @ 05:31 PM
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a reply to: Foxy1

You might want to take a break from the Internet because that's the biggest pile of # I've read so far on ATS.



posted on May, 9 2015 @ 05:31 PM
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a reply to: Foxy1

Double post
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posted on May, 9 2015 @ 05:46 PM
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Personally, I think all three are cancers to society and I wouldn't miss the "contribution" of either. At the end of the day, neither would anyone other than their families.



posted on May, 9 2015 @ 07:04 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: buddah6

Not on me to prove your claim.

Show me those killings.


I swear people are lazy...

detroit.cbslocal.com...

www.cbsnews.com...

Took me all of 30 seconds to find both.

I get so tired of people saying "Provide a link or it didn't happen!"

Must be nice to live in a closed off little box where you don't have to believe anything because you made zero effort to learn for yourself.

I ALWAYS google stuff people say, so I don't look like an idiot questioning them.



posted on May, 9 2015 @ 07:26 PM
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Geller is against political and radical Islam, plain and simple.

The interview on Hannity with Choudray and Geller showcased what politicized radical Islamism would be like under Sharia law should this population ever succeed in their determination to spread their ideology.

Like her or not, Geller puts a spotlight on the importance of separating religion from government, especially these types of religions with their oppressive, suppressive, and repressive beliefs. To her and many others, political and radical Islam is dangerous to our culture, our laws, and our very existence.

She is a beacon pointing to the absurdity of this ideology and the need to stay vigilant against its encroachment into government, schools, communities, and minds. Like any disease, its corruption can spread through the vulnerable minds and hearts of our youth promising them something that is nothing more than a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Shine on!



posted on May, 9 2015 @ 07:44 PM
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originally posted by: christophoros
a reply to: Sremmos80

Or the guy that committed that massacre in the abortion center or the colonizers of America who were Christian and were wiping out entire races in the name.of Christ. CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS ARE THE SAME THING.


Considering were all decended from the same area in africa it was not racism since only ONE RACE exist. I didnt hear of a religious crusade to wipe out the native americans. Spain,and other countries also colonized america too btw not just christians(hypocritical ones who didnt do as jesus suggested to do btw) ALso It wasnt Crusades in the name of Christ it was GOD his FATHER. the pope was very specific.

The Guy who did the clinic was a hypocrite and not a christian in anything but name btw.

A drawing of jesus is ok,but WORSHIPPING THE PAPER IS NOT, ALso thats a Old testament rule AND it is SPECIFICALLY for the HEBREWS. SO many people quote the OT and Dont know who it is actually for. You are posting alot of stuff thats not correct in other words. I dont recall a verse in the NT about how a good christian kills anyone.



posted on May, 9 2015 @ 08:55 PM
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a reply to: poncho1982

Its called burden of proof buddy, has nothing to do with laziness. If you make the claim it is on you to prove it.

Those didn't really prove the point either.

Do we know the motive was that they were to americanized and it was done as a honor killing?
That was the point that needed to be proved.



posted on May, 9 2015 @ 08:58 PM
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a reply to: queenofswords

I think she is purely against Islam in general.

The man Hannaity choose to show is nothing more then a radical and should not even be listened to.

She paints the brush of all the people for the actions of a few, some beacon alright.

You really think she is for separating religion from government?
Or just one particular religion



posted on May, 9 2015 @ 09:03 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: poncho1982

Its called burden of proof buddy, has nothing to do with laziness. If you make the claim it is on you to prove it.

Those didn't really prove the point either.

Do we know the motive was that they were to americanized and it was done as a honor killing?
That was the point that needed to be proved.


No, if I make a claim, it's because I know it to be true. If YOU want to know if it is or not, do your own research.

If you don't you are like a toddler standing there with your fingers in your ears going "lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala" so you can't hear.

But hey! There they are!! linky, linky linky!!

And...you STILL don't believe it. No wonder people don't want to take the time to dig up their links, people like you just shoot them down anyway.

Yes, BTW, we do know that they were honor killings. Both of those killings were all over the news when they happened, and the fact that the second one skipped the country after he did it says a lot.

Plus, they were muslims. So.....yeah.



posted on May, 9 2015 @ 10:12 PM
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a reply to: poncho1982

Well the Google burden of proof and see how wrong you are.

I never said Muslims dont kill people.
The claim is that it is an honor killing cause they were to americanized, that is what I questioned.

And omg some one skipped the country after killing someone?!
Ya only Muslims do that.



posted on May, 9 2015 @ 10:39 PM
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originally posted by: Foxy1
originally posted by: Foxy1

you will never see a christian terrorist..because jesus taught love. mohammed taught in many suras and hadif to kill


I have seen many Christian terrorists. In fact many of the people reported on the news for rapes and murders and extortions and all kinds of crazy other things were regular church goers, some athiests, and others Christian only by upbringing and not by practice.

Christian Castro, the man from ohio who terrorized those young girls for ten years by holding captive and making them his sex slaves was in fact a regular church goer. You can argue Dictionary terms, but ask those girls, they will tell you that he terrorized them.

Fact is you are more likely to be murdered in this country by a person who infrequently goes to church or holds Christianity/Catholic as their faith than a Muslim. But the news will only mention the religion or faith involved if its a Muslim, and then try to draw some kind of line with suspicions of terrorism even if all he did was steal a candy bar.
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posted on May, 10 2015 @ 06:04 AM
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a reply to: DYepes




Fact is you are more likely to be murdered in this country by a person who infrequently goes to church or holds Christianity/Catholic as their faith than a Muslim. But the news will only mention the religion or faith involved if its a Muslim, and then try to draw some kind of line with suspicions of terrorism even if all he did was steal a candy bar.


and if you lived in a muslim country, you'd be more likely to be murdered by a muslim. and if you lived in china, you'd be more likely to be murdered by a buddhist. etc. the issue isn't that muslims are out of control in our country, it's that the radical ones won't integrate into our society and in fact, claim they want to destroy it. as evidence of how serious they are, they will kill their own children and family so they certainly have no qualms about killing kaffirs/infidels, which i'm guessing includes you and yours.

when christians or anybody else, really, kills their family members / other people on religious grounds, we know something is wrong with them, not the people they are killing. control freaks come in all shapes and sizes.


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posted on May, 10 2015 @ 07:19 AM
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it would fall over.

and it doesn't fit with this

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because it's not self sustaining.

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is in reality, this

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and this

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fighting each other, which is ruining the country, and the whole world, really.

radical islam is this (so is any radical religious political body)

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and it won't except anything less. in fact, if even one of those dashes is different, they'd destroy it cause it's one point different.

radical marxism is this

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and it won't except anything less. in fact, if even one of those dashes is different, they'd destroy it cause it's one point different, just ask stalin, idi amin, pol pot, mao, etc.

there is literally no other system that can fairly and logically sustain nations in peaceful and beneficial ways friendly to the people of the society and that is this:

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always has been, always will be. are we going to learn from our mistakes or let this

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ruin it just so these guys

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can F it up the rest of the way?


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posted on May, 10 2015 @ 07:26 AM
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originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: beezzer

Don't forget about the abortion clinics.


Yep.

Now do we shut down abortion clinics so we don't "offend" them?


You do know that the abortion clinics were bombed by Christians right? And Christians are the only ones who seem to have that big an issue with them....



posted on May, 10 2015 @ 07:43 AM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: beezzer

Don't forget about the abortion clinics.


Yep.

Now do we shut down abortion clinics so we don't "offend" them?


You do know that the abortion clinics were bombed by Christians right? And Christians are the only ones who seem to have that big an issue with them....



killing is the big buzz word here. i don't believe in capital punishment because i view people who have that much of a control freak problem, to have a mental illness, and i don't believe in killing anybody, much less the mentally ill. our thinking caps are screwed on lopsided when it comes to capital punishment, vigilante or by the state.

many christians protested against abortion clinic bombings, and some even wrote songs against it. street preachers condemned it, too. they just didn't get any air time cause they didn't have a voice in the media.



posted on May, 10 2015 @ 07:45 AM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: undo

whats more telling is that the people are more upset at her........

They should be applauding her, whether they disagree with her or not...

Two extremist were killed = people in the US are in an uproar with self righteous indignation for this woman...

Mass murder in france because of worse drawings = mass movement "I am Charlie"

the fact that people cant see this very hypocritical and ridiculous disconnect boggles my mind....

The level of stupid in this country is getting to be of epic proportions......

Congrats US! Someone exercised their free speech and those who would see them dead for it got killed instead, id say thats a WIN


You're right...the level of stupid IS getting stronger....considering you think that people are more pissed off with her. Not sure where you got that from...maybe reading isnt your strong suit?
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posted on May, 10 2015 @ 08:10 AM
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here's an example
www.bpnews.net...



posted on May, 10 2015 @ 08:29 AM
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originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

I'm sorry, I have ZERO sympathy for anyone, of any religion, creed, or philosophy, that can be brought to foaming-at-the-mouth rage with a god damn picture. It's not "poking the nest". It's "showcasing absurdity".


This! Yes she did this on purpose, but its not a life and death thing, its cartoons, ideas, isms, thoughts, nothing real. Though thoughts can manifest reality if we put them into play, they are not weapons.

And as such, think this is a kind of ritual all religion and all politics should be subject too. I think it exposes the ignorance and violence in some people and that this needs to be addressed. Not the vehicle doing it. That should be a sanctioned event.

Stirring the pot. Good! Shake the trees, all of them, see what drops. And get some of these sick individuals some help. Those who offer threats to others.



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