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originally posted by: baitshark
Sorry to hijack this thread. I just joined to start a thread about this. I tried to start a new thread on both my Ipad and phone and it didn't work.
I came across this blog and it is creepy as hell. I posted it on another website and it was taken down for being to disturbing. I will appreciate if some can start a new thread about it. I will like to get the ATS analysis of it. Thanks.
originally posted by: Asktheanimals
originally posted by: KawRider9
a reply to: Asktheanimals
Martial law Country wide is impossibe to enforce. Be fun to watch though.
Ever considered what a million Chinese UN peacekeepers might be capable of?
» Explore the development of CONUS-based force packages that can be deployed as tailorable Special
Warfare Task Forces and capability to execute support to national-level influence strategy operations.
Develop CONUS-based capability to provide enhanced UW capability to TSOCs including tailored packages
to habitually and routinely support GCCs and interagency special activities requirements.
originally posted by: projectvxn
We're coming to get you.
And your pretty dog too.
Officers are like corporate managers. They make up buzzwords and sloagans regularly to impress people. "Mastering the Human Domain" is another one of those buzz phrases.
It literally means nothing. Think about it? What context could you ever use that in that it would make sense?
Funny story. Every time my Hawks do a cross country flight to another base I monitor ATS for the "Black helicopters are watching me" posts.
The paranoia about jade helm was once disturbing to me and it bothered me so many people thought it was some kind of take over.
No its just hilarious.
Tomorrow it will be sad.
As Zaphod pointed out in another thread, special ops forces don't work very well with other groups and there's lack of trust and communication between them.(This created problems in Iraq and Afghanistan) This exercise is about working together to "master the HUMAN domaine" part of it.
I hope that makes sense. (I'm not good at explaining)
As the discussion on the importance of the Human Domain continues to grow, the SOF community, already well-steeped in an understanding of operating in the Human Domain, will necessarily need to explore the aspects of operational art (linking tactical actions and operations to strategy through the use of campaigns) shaped by the impact of the Human Domain in achieving campaign objectives. In the evolution of special operations roles and missions, one of the key purposes for the use of SOF has been in achieving effects within the Human Domain. These activities and functions include protecting the populace from acts of political violence or harnessing the energy of the populace to achieve its political aspirations. As an adjunct to these two “ways” to employ SOF, there is also the humanitarian dimension where special operations are used to support alleviation of suffering, which given the cause of the grievances, may contribute to conflict. Thus, counterterrorism, foreign internal defense, unconventional warfare, counterinsurgency, Civil Affairs, Psychological Operations and humanitarian activities are all missions and operations which place the effects SOF try to achieve predominantly within the Human Domain.Special Reconnaissance deriving from information elicited from humans and used in targeting against human beings individually (such as man-hunting), is also within this category. While certainly there are military objectives to be achieved by SOF, often achieving operational objectives in the societal-political-psychological arenas of the Human Domain positions SOF as a key contributor for successful campaigns.
The Sublime: The Paradox of the 7th Warfighting Function
(Or why SOF cannot eat our function and have it too)
Grant M. Martin
Special Operations Forces (SOF) have a problem: in order to be more effective in the “human domain” we have to paradoxically dump the concept. The human domain, a conceptualization of the influence that populations have on military operations, is one way of viewing reality. Human populations, however, are characterized by different viewpoints and limiting oneself to only one view of the world can be disastrous if trying to make sense of things and initiate a desired effect. The trends within SOF, however, seem to be a growing reliance on process, bureaucracy, and metrics, all obstacles to breaking away from any institutionally-approved ways of thinking. In order for SOF to best contribute to operations within the human domain I assert that we have to do two things: 1) ensure our doctrine and concepts support a more nuanced and dynamic approach to operations at the conceptual level and, 2) mimic at the operational and strategic levels the same kinds of things that make us “special” at the tactical level. Actually making these things happen in the face of the current drawdown, our relatively recent infatuation with technology and the inexplicable application of physical domain concepts to the human domain, however, will be a herculean task.
originally posted by: Rocker2013
originally posted by: DAVID64
I think Jade Helm is what they claim it to be, a training exercise. But training against who? Sadly, distrust of my government has got to the point that some of the stories concerning this ring all too true.
As I understand it, cross-branch communication and logistics is a major problem in such a large military, and it seems to me that this is focusing on that in the same way Russia has done in recent times.
There's no denying that this training will have to incorporate scenarios for various threats, and yes that includes domestic issues.
They probably wouldn't want to say that outright, but it's a reality sensible people have to deal with. If there was a revolutionary group in your country planning to act wouldn't you WANT your government to be prepared for it? If there were to be a war and invasion was plausible, wouldn't you DEMAND that your government be prepared to fight against that? If there was massive unrest due to a collapse of the banking system, wouldn't you EXPECT your government to be able to step in and restore some semblance of calm?
It seems that too many people here want to redefine things depending on what they personally feel at any given moment. There are a lot of "constitution wavers", "bible thumpers" and "gun-toters" who seem to think a violent revolution is needed - which really is nothing more than a terrorist act against the democratic system of government. Like it or not, the people have voted for those who are running your country, you don't get to just decide that you don't like it (usually based on nothing consequential) and attempt to overthrow that system to install something that suits you personally and the "ideals" you cling to.
These people would rightly be described as being similar to Islamic State. It's the same thing; it's about political, religious or societal ideology, and something these people want to force onto the rest of the population even when it's clear that the population is not inclined to accept it.
For those who think a revolution in the US is "needed", why do you think that? Is it because the rest of your society (for good or bad) is not in agreement with you? Is it because you think things need to be "fixed"? And why is your notion of "fixing" things any better than Islamic State wanting to "fix" things to suit what they want their society to be?
A lot of people want to call themselves "Patriots", when in reality they're only patriotic to their own notions of what they want to force on their democratic nation. If they were truly Patriotic, they would understand that the population elects people to represent them and operate their nation on their behalf, and they would understand that any attempt to usurp this democratic system (for all its faults) is terrorism against their society, not patriotism.