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Predictions for UK general election result.

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posted on May, 8 2015 @ 09:46 AM
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a reply to: crazyewok

I am - my GP and neuro have said no work for the next six months until I have full MRI scans to see if they can remove the part of the brain that's damaged and stabalise on meds.

This won't stop all welfare being removed from me though - so as soon as that kicks in I'm off to country that doesn't treat me like a criminal because some drunk person ran me over.

Hopefully you won't suffer the same fate as Tories have pledged to remove all welfare for under-25s inc. housing benefit so you'd be homeless if made redundant/get ill/cancer etc.. - because obviously it was school kids who crashed the banks by their logic.
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posted on May, 8 2015 @ 10:57 AM
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originally posted by: blupblup





In a couple of years when they can't get a GP appointment or their relatives have a terrible time in hospital a







Funny that all started under labour in my area.....



posted on May, 8 2015 @ 11:00 AM
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originally posted by: bastion
a reply to: crazyewok

I am - my GP and neuro have said no work for the next six months until I have full MRI scans to see if they can remove the part of the brain that's damaged and stabalise on meds.

This won't stop all welfare being removed from me though - so as soon as that kicks in I'm off to country that doesn't treat me like a criminal because some drunk person ran me over.

Hopefully you won't suffer the same fate as Tories have pledged to remove all welfare for under-25s inc. housing benefit so you'd be homeless if made redundant/get ill/cancer etc.. - because obviously it was school kids who crashed the banks by their logic.

Your still contardicting yourself.

You say no work for 6 months

So how can you say you will move to another country and work?

Either your well enough to work or not, moveing wont magically make you better.

And good luck finding a country with a better wlefare system than us, you mentioned China?
Yeah ok......

Ok you have the Scandinavian countrys but they still wont pay you welfare if you move there and expect freebies, you still have to work. You cant move to a country and demand welfare.

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posted on May, 8 2015 @ 11:10 AM
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(been waiting 19 months for an MRI after traumatic brain injury under ConDem)


I work in the NHS.

I find this extremely hard to believe.

if you have had a traumatic brain injury after the injury itself you would have had a MRI with in 24-48 hours if it was needed so what you are talking about must be some kind of follow up. Just a lets see if this has gotten any better, the time scale of which depends on the nature of the injury and at that i still find 19 months very hard to believe. If it were honestly that long as soon as you complained about that heads would be rolling.

Quite a few of your claims about the UK welfare system i find dubious but that 19 months thing smells like BS to me.
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posted on May, 8 2015 @ 11:11 AM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Quite a few of your claims about the UK welfare system i find dubious but that 19 months thing smells like BS to me.


One of my friends has severe epilepsy and she is rightfully on ESA and DLA ect and has had no problems with ATOS and getting the benefits.



posted on May, 8 2015 @ 11:12 AM
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9p a week on JSA

can anyone else smell that....



posted on May, 8 2015 @ 11:15 AM
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a reply to: crazyewok

Ecept I'm not...

Because the UK is the only country in the EU that have these sanctions on disabled people. We're also the only country the world to be under investigation by the UN for the DWP denying disabled people the right to exist - I know it sounds ludicrous but China is actually far better. They'd also pay me three times the wage working for advanced maths and they don't declare people in comas 'fit for work' and remove all benefits unlike the UK.

I've worked in France and Austria in the past so can claim NI equivalent contributions there - the main reason I can't work is the seizures are triggered by stress and sleep deprivation - having all financial support removed and being made homeless, having no health care, no food, no support services and noreturn to work after disability programmes isn't going to help me stress wise so I may as well move to a country that doesn't bully the sick so I can concentrate on getting better in the meantime instead of having to put up with a government constantly calling me scum, a scrounger and other nonsense.


But whatever, keep pretending I'm making this up if it makes you feel better...


originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: bastion




(been waiting 19 months for an MRI after traumatic brain injury under ConDem)


I work in the NHS.

I find this extremely hard to believe.



Feel free to ring Dr Sheskpear, Dr Majeed or Karen Quinn at Royal Preston Hospital then - I'll post all these including the DWP paperwork in a new thread tomorrow (waiting to get hold of a scanner at the moment and it's hundreds of pages long, and personal data needs redacting). It even contains the genius claim from the DWP that epillepsy isn't e neurological condition and that my GP is a shoulder surgeon in Chorley hospital (who I've never heard of or been to).

My accident happened Nov 19th 2012 - have received nothing since then - ask anyone at the brain injury charity Headway - most people have been waiting 5 -10 years with no aftercare despite some having been in comas - neuro-rehab is non-existant in Lancashire.

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If you can recommend any body I can complain to then please, please provide one - I asked my GP the other week and she just asked me 'what do you expect me to do?' despite multiple letters of complaint I'm getting nowhere and It's driving me even more mental.

Once again I don't blame you or others for thinking this is bull, I wouldn't believe it myself unless it was happening to me.
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posted on May, 8 2015 @ 11:15 AM
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originally posted by: woodwardjnr
I certainly won't be getting depressed about the result or start naval gazing about the future. I think what I've learnt in my life is, not much ever changes whoever is in power just as world events and the national news rarely effects our lives despite the prominence of it in our lives.

and if there are changes even dramatic changes in life you just get on with it and accept the circumstances your in. Things could always be worse


Thank you, I needed that, thinking on it today, the results seem to mirror peoples attitudes right now in Britain, and that's sad to me personally, feel totally sucker punched, I am gutted!



posted on May, 8 2015 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: bastion
know it sounds ludicrous but China is actually far better. They'd also pay me three times the wage working for advanced maths a

But your saying your on ESA and cant work?

originally posted by: bastion
so I may as well move to a country that doesn't bully the sick so I can concentrate on getting better in the meantime instead of having to put up with a government constantly calling me scum, a scrounger and other nonsense.

But you wont have a chance to get better.

You cant just turn up to another country and claim disability. You will have to work from the get go, no time to get better.
So you may as well look for a job now.



posted on May, 8 2015 @ 11:23 AM
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Posting this here too....




We know what the Tory Party will focus on.



posted on May, 8 2015 @ 11:24 AM
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a reply to: bastion




I'll post all these including the DWP paperwork in a new thread tomorrow (waiting to get hold of a scanner at the moment and it's hundreds of pages long, and personal data needs redacting).


Hundreds of pages...

I have been on JSA I got a document that was one or two pages long.

But let me move on to something else.

you say you were knocked down by a drunk.

That sucks, really does suck, I hope you made a very substantial claim against him for criminal compensation.

However that was almost 3 years ago, It really frustrates me when i see people like yourself acting like this gives you some kind of entitlement to sponge of the system and live off the state. If your epilepsy is triggered by stress get a less stressful job, go retrain to work in a library or something!

I have some very bad news for you, this is going to sound very harsh but its also very true.

Our economy is still in the crapper, its going to get worse because Europe is just a ticking time bomb, we have massive national debt and we need to cut it fast. That means that we have to make big cuts and social welfare, international aid and defence are the best places to make them. Social welfare are is even more attractive because we can make cuts to encourage people back to work and that means more penny's in the public purse and less people claim benefits.

So cuts have to be made.

You have to go out and get yourself a job, you actually have to get up go on and get a job even if that means adapting your skills in the job market but this is survival of the fittest. Those who are strong will adapt, get a job and struggle through, those who are weak will sit about moaning who the nanny state has left them behind and their back hurts to much to get a job.



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posted on May, 8 2015 @ 11:28 AM
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originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: bastion
know it sounds ludicrous but China is actually far better. They'd also pay me three times the wage working for advanced maths a

But your saying your on ESA and cant work?

originally posted by: bastion
so I may as well move to a country that doesn't bully the sick so I can concentrate on getting better in the meantime instead of having to put up with a government constantly calling me scum, a scrounger and other nonsense.

But you wont have a chance to get better.

You cant just turn up to another country and claim disability. You will have to work from the get go, no time to get better.
So you may as well look for a job now.


Like I said I've worked in France and Austria, I'm entitled to claim for a short period over there - by that time I should be well enough to take up part time work then build up to full time. Already been offered 4hrs a day in Pays d'Loire in France in return for board and lodgings which is far better than current situation.

Beleive me I wouldn't wish disability or unemployment on anyone, I want to get back into work ASAP as I've worked since 12, it's simply not possible with the nature of my illness and jobs on offer aroun here at the mo (can't even stack shelves as not allowed near flouro lights or heavy stuff).


originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: bastion




I'll post all these including the DWP paperwork in a new thread tomorrow (waiting to get hold of a scanner at the moment and it's hundreds of pages long, and personal data needs redacting).


Hundreds of pages...

I have been on JSA I got a document that was one or two pages long.



Lucky you. This is ESA/PIP and JSA plus dozens of doctors, surgeons, mental health experts letters and letters from MPs. It took 12 months for me to win my appeal and get to be seen by a doctor in the disability assesment instead of an untrained civil servant.
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Mini extract here:

'
Dear all,

NI: JXXXXB

I am writing yet another complaint about the appalling service provided by ATOS and also Capita regarding PIP.

Not content with telling me to kill myself, claiming I live 50 miles away, my Dr is a hospital, claiming I don't have epilepsy despite GP, surgeon, neurologist, neuropsychologist and neurorehab all confirming I had it and refusing to provide someone qualified to assess me. Atos have completely #ed up again and I've been waiting 10 weeks to hear the outcome of my assessment despite being told it would only take four weeks.

In two weeks (5th May) I will be homeless because of how unbelievably incompetent you are. It should not be humanly possible to be this stupid and poorly managed. No wonder tens of thousands have died because of you scum.'

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posted on May, 8 2015 @ 11:33 AM
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a reply to: bastion

I think you should read my edit.

Also I really do not want to see all these pages about your health problems and all the bureaucracy you have had to go through.

EDIT:

If the above is a extract of a email you have actually sent them i think i know what your problem is......

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posted on May, 8 2015 @ 11:44 AM
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originally posted by: bastion
If you can recommend any body I can complain to then please, please provide one - I asked my GP the other week and she just asked me 'what do you expect me to do?'


Slightly off topic, but...

1. I work in the NHS and am surprised at your story.

2. You need to write to the Chief Executive of the Trust that is providing specialist care for you, cc the Chairman, your GP and (crucially) your MP. Don't phaf around with the detail. Keep it brief and ask them to investigate why it's taking so long.

3. You need to change your GP, or suggest that she provides improved oversight of your care and his / her obligations under Good Medical Practice (look it up). Your GP needs to be reminded if he/she is falling short and not managing your illness.

4. Help yourself. If you can more to China to work, then you can do so in the UK. You won't like China, BTW. Not if you are ill.



posted on May, 8 2015 @ 11:46 AM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

You say you were knocked down by a drunk.

That sucks, really does suck, I hope you made a very substantial claim against him for criminal compensation.

However that was almost 3 years ago, It really frustrates me when i see people like yourself acting like this gives you some kind of entitlement to sponge of the system and live off the state. If your epilepsy is triggered by stress get a less stressful job, go retrain to work in a library or something!

I have some very bad news for you, this is going to sound very harsh but its also very true.



I sustained a traumatic brain injury and didn't even know who my parents were for 4 months or so and despite having a maths degree (1st with distinction and merit) it took me five months to remember my PIN number. The CCTV cameraq view was blocked by trees and by the time I was well enough to put in a compensation claim (after I found out severity of my injury/disbaility for life) the police said it was too late to investigate and the council refused to pay out any compensation as I didn't have a tape measure next to the crash site to give a scale to measure my/the cars speed with so I'm not entitled to a penny.

I'm in hospital four days a week and soon to be six when I start a brain injury clinical trial at the Walton Centre in Liverpool in a few weeks and already volunteer in two jobs (where there's trained staff to resuscitate me).

I fail to see how several doctors ordering me not to work to avoid killing myself or others (serious tonic clonic epilepsy) makes me a sponger - I didn't choose this (not saying that's what you meant but I'm wound up with results and brain injury means it's v. hard to control temper).

I've been volunteering at an eating disorder charity and brain disorder charity - I'm not a feckless Jeremy Kyle stereotype the media loves to portray anyone unlucky enough to be in this situation as.

I completely agree being in work is what's best for me asap. Believe me I want nothing more than to be in full-time work and have nothing to do with the welfare state ever again - but my Dr can't sign me off as I'm a risk to myself and others at the present moment.
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a reply to: paraphi

Cannot thank you enough for this, cannot put into words how appreciated this is. Thanks.
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: bastion

I think you should read my edit.

Also I really do not want to see all these pages about your health problems and all the bureaucracy you have had to go through.

EDIT:

If the above is a extract of a email you have actually sent them i think i know what your problem is......


Will do tomorrow - it's a long but very scandalous read and hopefully an interesting one.

Agreed it's an abusive, unprofessional letter but for 12 months after the injury I had major anger/rage issues due to the part of brain affected messing my socially acceptable language filters. I was a massive pacifist hippy before it so it took a lot of adjusting to to get myself under control/stop starting random fights.

Anyway lets leave this discussion for now and keep it to the new thread I'll post as I'm once again causing stuff to go off topic and these results are far more important than my own personal struggles.
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posted on May, 8 2015 @ 11:47 AM
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a reply to: paraphi

What you said.

I would be very careful about moving and throwing your self on Chinese charity.

France would be the best bet if you have some NI to claim there.

UK might be doing some unfair things but we are still one of the most generous nations in the world, so be careful about thinking the grass is greener.



posted on May, 8 2015 @ 11:50 AM
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but my Dr can't sign me off as I'm a risk to myself and others at the present moment.


Don't you mean that your dr has had to sign you off because your are risk to yourself and others?

Anyway dude, this is all off-topic.

And like i have said (sorry to sound harsh) I really don't care

I came into this thread looking to discuss the UK election not your problems with welfare.

Now would probably be a good time to get back on topic but i do hope things get better for you.



posted on May, 8 2015 @ 11:50 AM
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DP
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posted on May, 8 2015 @ 12:12 PM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: bastion




but my Dr can't sign me off as I'm a risk to myself and others at the present moment.


Don't you mean that your dr has had to sign you off because your are risk to yourself and others?

Anyway dude, this is all off-topic.

And like i have said (sorry to sound harsh) I really don't care

I came into this thread looking to discuss the UK election not your problems with welfare.

Now would probably be a good time to get back on topic but i do hope things get better for you.


Yes. Was nearly involuntarily sectioned because of it a few months back. I have severe tonic clonic seizures that last up to 45mins so need an ambulance immediately for oxygen and midizolam injections (to stop staus epilipticus). I have both day and night seizures without warning and nearly beat up the seven nurses holding me down in my first seizure despite a shattered clavicle and dislocated shoulder. I apparently start punching everyone I can see and start crying in post-ictal state which is humiliating. Heights, lights, heavy things, computers, and visual working memory based tasks are all barred by GP and neuro due to seizure severity and brain injury.

But yes this is all boring and nothing to do with the GE - lets leave it to another topic.

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posted on May, 8 2015 @ 12:38 PM
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Hey man - not to take this off topic but don't post your personal details and all of your medical and welfare info online.
Forget these guys who don't believe you, you have nothing to prove at all.
You know your own truth and screw everyone else.

You guys need to leave this person alone, if they're suffering physically and mentally as they say, then you hounding and denying and attacking them won't help.

Please don't make another thread posting all of this stuff - it's your own private business.


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