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An Oncoming Storm? The First Amendment Under Attack?

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posted on May, 6 2015 @ 11:38 AM
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Let me first and foremost say, I don't care if you like Infowars.com or Drudge Report. Please don't complain to me about them, and please keep the reptiod alien stuff to a minimum, I never believed a word of that lunacy.

THAT SAID, I apologize in advance for not having a link or an article for this thread (yet).

I will add one as soon as I find one.

"They" are talking about shutting down Drudge Report because now, apparently, political speech is not covered by the first amendment. Infowars is under some legal attack, the magnitude of which I don't know, and their facebook page has been blocked. I just heard him calling into his own show and explaining all this, and he's not hosting his show today because he's out looking for some way to legally retaliate and defend Infowars.

I find it strange that these little things are all happening at once, and hey, wasn't ATS attacked and brought down a few months ago? Hopefully that won't happen again. I wonder if this is indicative of an oncoming movement of some kind, and "they" don't want our alternative medias at their peak. Whatever is about to happen, "they" don't want us covering it.

I will post an article as SOON as I find one.

For now, you'll just have to take my word... sorry.

AGAIN, please don't make this a pissing contest about how you hate Alex Jones, or I will contact a moderator and have your comments OR the entire thread deleted. Your opinions are fine, but that's not the point of this thread at all.

What do you think ATS?

EDIT; Just found this video on my twitter.




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posted on May, 6 2015 @ 11:50 AM
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InfoWars Facebook is working just fine…


You are aware that Mr. Jones favors extreme embellishment and hyperbolic hysteria, correct?


(Edit to add, after watching the video…)

Alex Jones: "A lot of pundits, a lot of analysts have always pointed out that InfoWars.com is seen as a 'canary in the coal mine,' that when the system really starts to come after us, in the info-war, that Hillary admits we're winning, (blah blah) that the hammer's dropping."

He's really so full of himself the Stay Puff Marshmallow man has nothing on him.

This is all over a Facebook policy violation? Stupid.
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posted on May, 6 2015 @ 11:52 AM
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originally posted by: XxNightAngelusxX


"They" are talking about shutting down Drudge Report because now, apparently, political speech is not covered by the first amendment.


Ummmm. Political speech is the ONLY thing covered by the First Amendment...



posted on May, 6 2015 @ 11:56 AM
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originally posted by: SkepticOverlord

You are aware that Mr. Jones favors extreme embellishment and hyperbolic hysteria, correct?


I can give him one credit: He's tireless.



posted on May, 6 2015 @ 11:56 AM
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originally posted by: usernameconspiracy

originally posted by: XxNightAngelusxX


"They" are talking about shutting down Drudge Report because now, apparently, political speech is not covered by the first amendment.


Ummmm. Political speech is the ONLY thing covered by the First Amendment...


I thought it was also freedom of religion.



posted on May, 6 2015 @ 12:00 PM
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a reply to: SkepticOverlord


Facebook Blocks Alex Jones For ISIS Picture

Yep, the page is back up. But it wasn't functioning earlier.

As in... they weren't able to post because of this, maybe they still aren't. You can still view the page just fine, but when you get these blocks, you can't post anything new until facebook gives you the go-ahead.




You are aware that Mr. Jones favors extreme embellishment and hyperbolic hysteria, correct?


The "hysteria" is just anger. I'm angry too, about everything that goes on.

Plus they bring me better news than anyone else, so... frankly, I don't care.


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posted on May, 6 2015 @ 12:01 PM
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originally posted by: Aldakoopa
I thought it was also freedom of religion.



Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


Mr. Jones' crazy YouTube ramble has nothing to do with the First Amendment.



posted on May, 6 2015 @ 12:03 PM
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originally posted by: SkepticOverlord

originally posted by: Aldakoopa
I thought it was also freedom of religion.



Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


Mr. Jones' crazy YouTube ramble has nothing to do with the First Amendment.


I was also going off of the phone call I heard on the radio show. I don't have a video or recording of that, sorry... all I have is the twitter vid.



posted on May, 6 2015 @ 12:03 PM
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originally posted by: XxNightAngelusxX
The "hysteria" is just anger.

No, it's performance.

Just as Rush Limbaugh is a conservative performer (he admitted it a while back), Jones is a conspiracy performer. Both make up stories, both lie to you, and both rely on your need to confirm bias for their audience retention.



posted on May, 6 2015 @ 12:08 PM
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originally posted by: SkepticOverlord

originally posted by: XxNightAngelusxX
The "hysteria" is just anger.

No, it's performance.

Just as Rush Limbaugh is a conservative performer (he admitted it a while back), Jones is a conspiracy performer. Both make up stories, both lie to you, and both rely on your need to confirm bias for their audience retention.


That sounds extremely paranoid.

The manstream is wrong,

The alternative is controlled puppet opposition,

And we're all sheeple doomed to the slaughter.

That's the synopsis I get from your take, but honestly, Alex Jones doesn't have the capacity to lie, OR the filter to speak in a way carefully orchestrated for his audience to hear. You can believe otherwise, fine, but inspiring thousands of people to take a stand against a corrupt government is a good thing in my book.



posted on May, 6 2015 @ 12:11 PM
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It's hard to discuss the topic without understanding and talking about the people behind the "message".

Jones makes a big deal out of everything and even takes things out of context in order to twist the issue in a way that appeals to his audience.

Drudge does the same thing. The only difference is that Drudge doesn't get too deep in to conspiracies. Jones does.

I find that their audiences overlap quite a bit and they are not the critical thinking sort of people.

Gullible sheeple, if you will.



posted on May, 6 2015 @ 12:16 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
It's hard to discuss the topic without understanding and talking about the people behind the "message".

Jones makes a big deal out of everything and even takes things out of context in order to twist the issue in a way that appeals to his audience.

Drudge does the same thing. The only difference is that Drudge doesn't get too deep in to conspiracies. Jones does.

I find that their audiences overlap quite a bit and they are not the critical thinking sort of people.

Gullible sheeple, if you will.


They're fanatical sometimes. Definitely.

But I don't think there's a manipulative spin on all the issues. I honestly think that they--Jones mainly--are so angry about everything, it becomes a jumbled ramble about how action needs to be taken. Some see it as fear mongering, but I personally find it inspiring.



posted on May, 6 2015 @ 12:18 PM
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a reply to: XxNightAngelusxX




Alex Jones doesn't have the capacity to lie, OR the filter to speak in a way carefully orchestrated for his audience to hear.


Based on what?!

Is he saint Alex the truth bringer?


You need to get news from many sources and question them all.
Not just one from a guy you think doesn't lie to you.

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posted on May, 6 2015 @ 12:20 PM
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a reply to: SkepticOverlord




This is all over a Facebook policy violation? Stupid.



Its not.

It's about Drudge being under the scope, as well as Infowars being under legal attack, which has nothing to do with their facebook thing. Plus YOUR website was attacked and brought down a few months ago, remember?

I'd be concerned.



posted on May, 6 2015 @ 12:22 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: XxNightAngelusxX




Alex Jones doesn't have the capacity to lie, OR the filter to speak in a way carefully orchestrated for his audience to hear.


Based on what?!

Is he saint Alex the truth bringer?


You need to get news from many sources and question them all.
Not just one from a guy you think doesn't lie to you.


What makes you think I don't?

I just like his passion.

Plus I'm speaking from a psychological perspective. I know a lot of people personally who are wired the way Alex is; everything on the sleeve, no filter and no room or will for one.


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posted on May, 6 2015 @ 12:33 PM
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originally posted by: SkepticOverlord

originally posted by: Aldakoopa
I thought it was also freedom of religion.



Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


Mr. Jones' crazy YouTube ramble has nothing to do with the First Amendment.


So....the idea is that they can regulate Political Speech per the Federal Election Commission. Its only a matter of time.



posted on May, 6 2015 @ 12:35 PM
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a reply to: XxNightAngelusxX

I doubt they're being blocked. But I've wondered what is the difference between yelling fire in the movie theater, bomb in an airport or preaching imminent doom in America? Because one person I'm not allowed to mention in this thread regularly tries to panic the US with non-factual claims.



posted on May, 6 2015 @ 12:39 PM
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originally posted by: XxNightAngelusxX
Alex Jones doesn't have the capacity to lie

Oh, but he does, and did…



posted on May, 6 2015 @ 12:41 PM
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originally posted by: XxNightAngelusxX
It's about Drudge being under the scope, as well as Infowars being under legal attack

The only "evidence" for InfoWars being under "legal attack" is Alex Jones' ramblings. I don't believe it.



Plus YOUR website was attacked and brought down a few months ago, remember?

Yes. And there's no concrete evidence to suggest nefarious intent by anyone other than pranksters.



posted on May, 6 2015 @ 12:47 PM
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originally posted by: TonyS
So....the idea is that they can regulate Political Speech per the Federal Election Commission. Its only a matter of time.

Whether or not they "can" is open for debate as the issue has been opened for comments: Federal Election Commission to Consider Regulating Online Political Speech

February 11, 2015
The Federal Election Commission (FEC) is holding a hearing today to receive public feedback on whether it should create new rules regulating political speech, including political speech on the Internet that one commissioner warned could affect blogs, YouTube videos and even websites like the Drudge Report.


They're still not certain if the FEC can regulate the online political content of digital media entities. Even the most staunch supporters of such regulations are not suggesting user-generated content (like ATS) would fall under the potentially proposed possibly considered new regulations.




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