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Details Behind The Secrecy of the TPP Trade Deal: Absolutely Mind Blowing

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posted on May, 5 2015 @ 04:01 PM
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This is one of those stories that has me wondering how anyone could possibly deny that Obama and his team are not a part of the push for global dominance.

But draw your own conclusions here.

Say you are a senator or a congressman and you'd like to ascertain the details of the Trans-Pacific Partnership. Here's what you have to do:

1. You must go to a classified briefing.

2. Please leave your cell phones at the counter.

3. Oh, and while you're at it, leave your staff members at the counter, too.

4. Want to read the text of the deal? Scurry down to the basement.

5. Once you're there, you'll only be handed one section at a time.

6. Oh, and while you're reading it, someone is assigned to stand over you....and watch you.

7. Taking notes? Hand 'em over before you leave so the TPTB can see what you wrote.

8. And don't, when you leave, under any circumstances talk about this to anyone. Ever.

9. Did I mention you can't talk about this to anyone?




“It’s like being in kindergarten,” said Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-Conn.), who’s become the leader of the opposition to President Barack Obama’s trade agenda. “You give back the toys at the end.”


Does the lack of transparency bother Obama? You decide:




Obama’s seeking a renewal of fast-track authority, which would empower him to negotiate trade deals that then go to Congress for up-or-down votes but not amendments. He says he needs that authority to complete the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a 12-country free trade agreement that he calls essential to stopping China from setting trade, labor and environmental standards in the Asia-Pacific region.



And the sheeple sleep.

At least the folks in Europe are protesting this during the election season in the UK. They're protesting big time.

What are people in America doing? WatchingTV?


Source: www.politico.com...
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posted on May, 5 2015 @ 04:32 PM
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originally posted by: MRuss
What are people in America doing? WatchingTV?



Those of us who care are working hard to pay our ridiculous tax rates so the people who are screwing us can get paid.

You know, because we're not given a choice



posted on May, 5 2015 @ 04:38 PM
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a reply to: lordcomac

Ha. I hear ya.

But the problem is that no one believes that the little people have power.

If everyone stopped buying gas for one day, for example, we could create change. If just one in every 1000 people protested something that they believed in, we could create change.

We've been led to believe we are powerless by design. We don't have to go along with it.
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posted on May, 5 2015 @ 04:48 PM
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a reply to: MRuss

The problem is that we are so divided that not everyone believes we should protest for the same things, and no one will work together for anything anymore.

Do you honestly think for one moment that a gay person who wants SS marriage would work with a conservative Christian against the government on this issue even if both are bitterly opposed to it? Now, let's assume that both of the above are white and male and try adding a black feminist to the mix who believes strongly in the evils of white privilege.

We are talking about a time when the enemy of my enemy is no longer my friend. Now, we are all someone else's "Other" to be purged and the government is the enemy of everyone's enemy and thus everyone's friend.


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posted on May, 5 2015 @ 04:49 PM
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Nafta on steroids... IE we are all screwed... I expect 40+ % unemployment after this get forced through.

And the normal rutabagas will still applaud Obama, and the normal turnips will swear republicans are different.

I will continue to wait for that inevitable contraction of the stock market which will probably set off a shooting war inside the USA.

Or I just may be a pessimist.



posted on May, 5 2015 @ 04:58 PM
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Why the playing by the rules?
Tptb certainly won't.
Stop playing their game and obeying their rules.
....their only rule is figuring out how to not obey any rule.
Just say: hell no.

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posted on May, 5 2015 @ 05:20 PM
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This deal, TPP, is one of the final nails in the coffin of the buried middle class Americans. Also, one of the cornerstones of the austerity the oligarchs are imposing on the Western world.


The GOP of course… they love it because it gives the rich elite industrialists and capitalists ALL THEY WANT.


So with the puppet Obama they will get this through congress just like NAFTA and the other trade agreements


This will end the last vestiges of good middle class jobs this country has and will be AN ANCHOR FOR AUSTERITY

…and another boondoggle and sop for the rich and powerful


The liar and deceiver Obama will be the Al Gore of this despicable trade agreement as Gore was the lap dog of the rich in the NAFTA scam


Again its just amazing the American people as so dam dumb to vote for their own destruction!



posted on May, 5 2015 @ 05:52 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

You forgot ... the Democrats love it because it will render us all dependent on them for everything once we are made incapable of supporting ourselves which finally gives them all the power they want to order every detail of our lives.

You can't tar one class of politicians without remembering that the others are just as bad.



posted on May, 5 2015 @ 06:04 PM
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MOST.TRANSPARENT.PRESIDENCY.EVER


God help the USA if this man sees his plans to fruition.



posted on May, 5 2015 @ 06:06 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

That’s your opinion, I don’t think there just as bad.

...And I deal with the issues not emotionality

There certainly not saints or exceptional human beings as politicians but compared to the present GOP THE DEMOCRATS ARE SAINTS.

And I mean the present GOP. Years in the past there have been many fine GOP politicians.


If you read my post, btw, and not been so anxious to spread your obsession and what I believe is an underhanded attempt to derail this thread you would have read my denunciation of not only Obama, the number one democrat but Gore as well.

So im not a lover of democrats



posted on May, 5 2015 @ 06:11 PM
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Just read Rand Paul supports this idiotic agreement... we're doomed. We need a new global war to break all these freedom destroying globalist cabals and agreements up.



posted on May, 5 2015 @ 06:16 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: ketsuko

That’s your opinion, I don’t think there just as bad.

...And I deal with the issues not emotionality

There certainly not saints or exceptional human beings as politicians but compared to the present DEM THE REPUBLICANS ARE SAINTS.

And I mean the present DEM. Years in the past there have been many fine DEM politicians.


If you read my post, btw, and not been so anxious to spread your obsession and what I believe is an underhanded attempt to derail this thread you would have read my denunciation of not only Boehner, the number one republican but McConnel as well.

So im not a lover of republicans


Pardon me, but I'm going to show you how partisan your post is.

All I pointed out is that if the Republicans are eager for this to go through in order to please Big Business which I don't doubt at all, then the Dems are equally happy because it will create ever larger dependence and victim classes for them to demagogue. Everyone in DC gains power with their respective constituencies, not just one party or the other.

So this is not a derailment. You need to see that both parties are selling us out. I am not the "Other" here, every politician in DC on both sides of the aisle is against you in this.



posted on May, 5 2015 @ 06:20 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

From a truly libertarian perspective, real free trade is a grand thing. The problem is that we don't actually have free trade. Other countries engage in protectionism which means we aren't actually trading on a level field, and instead of a business in one country trading with a business in another, we have one business taking advantage of both markets to enrich itself by doing whatever it ought to produce. The problem of course is that while the marketplace may be global, the neighborhood is not. If the jobs move to Singapore or China or Mexico, I cannot like I could move to Alabama when my factory closes in Cali.



posted on May, 5 2015 @ 06:35 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: ketsuko

That’s your opinion, I don’t think there just as bad.

...And I deal with the issues not emotionality

There certainly not saints or exceptional human beings as politicians but compared to the present DEM THE REPUBLICANS ARE SAINTS.

And I mean the present DEM. Years in the past there have been many fine DEM politicians.


If you read my post, btw, and not been so anxious to spread your obsession and what I believe is an underhanded attempt to derail this thread you would have read my denunciation of not only Boehner, the number one republican but McConnel as well.

So im not a lover of republicans


Pardon me, but I'm going to show you how partisan your post is.

All I pointed out is that if the Republicans are eager for this to go through in order to please Big Business which I don't doubt at all, then the Dems are equally happy because it will create ever larger dependence and victim classes for them to demagogue. Everyone in DC gains power with their respective constituencies, not just one party or the other.

So this is not a derailment. You need to see that both parties are selling us out. I am not the "Other" here, every politician in DC on both sides of the aisle is against you in this.


You need to see that eventhough both parties are in the payment of the elite there are ISSUES that are relevant to people’s real lives.

That’s why a Tea partier can root for Hillary to win so he can keep his Obamacare.

One can’t live in practical reality and deny this through a philosophy


That’s why I judge issues based on what is good for me not a philosophy of: both parties are dogs


You reject practical reality at your own peril


And maybe you have the resources to do that but keep in mind you may not always have those resources.

There ar always levels of good and bad

One can say the GOP is Cancer and the Democrats are a bad head cold

That’s the reality you deny through dogma

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posted on May, 5 2015 @ 06:40 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

Ummm, a TEA Partier would want Obamacare gone ... we are taxed enough already. What do you think Obamacare is? It's just another series of massive taxes.

Also, you cannot have a welfare state and a thriving economy. The money has to come from somewhere to provide for everyone. Socialism has one glaring flaw - sooner or later it always runs out of other people's money. You likely love Obamacare because you are living on other people's money. If you had to pay for every single penny for yourself with no subsidy (other people's money) you wouldn't think the same.
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posted on May, 5 2015 @ 07:37 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

I'm more about National Protectionist Libertarianism, myself. Globalism is a cancer to freedom, regardless the party endorsing it. I dont believe libertarians can navigate the dichotomy between fighting for a leaner, more localized structure of governance such as state's rights being held in higher esteem than federal power grabs while also advocating ANY form of globalism. .



posted on May, 5 2015 @ 08:24 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

Logically, I don't think you can either. The market has to basically operate under the same authority which means the same governing structure, so basically a global free trade market demands a global government.

I am not in favor of a global government as it would be too clunky to be truly responsive to the needs of its citizens and would be default become a either tyrannical structure or an anarchy, and you know that an anarchy isn't in the cards. They don't take control just to surrender power.



posted on May, 5 2015 @ 09:23 PM
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Baltimore is falling apart because the jobs they used to do there were shipped overseas after we signed on to GATT and the WTO.

Yeah, these free trade agreements are so good for our country they must keep them a secret.
I won't make it a secret I think anyone who signs this is a traitor.
Fast track is just another way of saying SCREW YOU AMERICA.
How about fast track out of the Oval office creep?



posted on May, 5 2015 @ 09:25 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

How did we ever trade centuries ago without all these free trade agreements?
Don't say we must have them because we don't.



posted on May, 5 2015 @ 09:31 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: MRuss

The problem is that we are so divided that not everyone believes we should protest for the same things, and no one will work together for anything anymore.

Do you honestly think for one moment that a gay person who wants SS marriage would work with a conservative Christian against the government on this issue even if both are bitterly opposed to it? Now, let's assume that both of the above are white and male and try adding a black feminist to the mix who believes strongly in the evils of white privilege.

We are talking about a time when the enemy of my enemy is no longer my friend. Now, we are all someone else's "Other" to be purged and the government is the enemy of everyone's enemy and thus everyone's friend.



I think this post is so absolutely spot on it bears repeating.
Very incisive in describing the fractured political landscape today.




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