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originally posted by: Mumbotron
a reply to: waynos
Nice appeal to ignorance there buddy (look it up it's a logical fallacy). Then you asked me to prove a negative... you are on a roll here.
You can likely find better things to be mad about, all you nay-sayers.
I think it is clear in most threads on this topic that the OP doesn't know what or how chem trails work.
To think you have all the answers from a few Youtube clips or such is the height of ignorance.
I am certainly not saying I have all the answers either. So go ahead call others foolish... it really just weakens your argument. That isn't to say there aren't more like you on here to star you for it.
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Mumbotron
No, what he's saying is logistically impossible is for an aircraft to spray a tail of chemicals from horizon to horizon as chemtrail believers claim. Not that cloud seeding can take place.
originally posted by: F4guy
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Mumbotron
No, what he's saying is logistically impossible is for an aircraft to spray a tail of chemicals from horizon to horizon as chemtrail believers claim. Not that cloud seeding can take place.
Zaphod, you can tell them repeatedly that "it is impossible", but as I tell my students, "Quantify!" For example, 'horizon to horizon' for an aircraft at 40,000 feet is a trail 570 miles long! To be visible to a person with 20/20 vision, the trail would have to be 1 arc minute wide. At 40,000 feet that means a trail 115 feet wide. So an area of about 12.5 square miles would have to be permeated. Since the chematics think the spray is aluminum, it would be the same as spreading out 12.4 square miles of aluminum foil. Foil is roughly 5.4 grams per square meter. It's 32374851.3792 square meters, so we have about 175 million grams, or 385,000 pounds. That is slightly more than the total fuel load of a 747-400. And where are they going to put it? The volume of 190 tons of pulverized aluminum is 8191 cubic feet. That's 3 times the total belly volume of a 747-400 freighter.
originally posted by: mrthumpy
originally posted by: F4guy
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Mumbotron
No, what he's saying is logistically impossible is for an aircraft to spray a tail of chemicals from horizon to horizon as chemtrail believers claim. Not that cloud seeding can take place.
And that's not taking into account the depth of the trail. Out of interest, how did you calculate the 570 miles?
Simple trigonometry. Or if you're math averse, you can use a simple line-of-sight calculator easily found on the internet. As for the depth, to be conservative I assumed the same depth (thickness) as foil, or 5 mil.
originally posted by: F4guy
originally posted by: mrthumpy
originally posted by: F4guy
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Mumbotron
No, what he's saying is logistically impossible is for an aircraft to spray a tail of chemicals from horizon to horizon as chemtrail believers claim. Not that cloud seeding can take place.
And that's not taking into account the depth of the trail. Out of interest, how did you calculate the 570 miles?
Simple trigonometry. Or if you're math averse, you can use a simple line-of-sight calculator easily found on the internet. As for the depth, to be conservative I assumed the same depth (thickness) as foil, or 5 mil.
Cheers. As for the depth, I meant the depth of the trail. The one you've described is 2D
It's like me saying that my local council is rounding up kids off the street and exterminating them, then, when it's pointed out that there is no evidence, I point out that the council has vans, that could be used to carry kids, they have dog wardens that could catch kids instead and thry have pest control units for rats and such so the poisons exist, it is only a small step to see my claim might be true, even though there's no evidence and my initial claim was bull.
THIS is chemtrail theory by any other name.