a reply to: rickymouse
You're right about the radiated water. There is no accepted evidence that the radioactivity actually came from fracking in the area. The articles I
read on this used coincidence to show a connection
I know I'm right. The cracks can't propagate to the water aquifer. If it did, you would have much larger problems than water pollution. It would
require time and money wasted, to even think of how much water you would need to reach the water aquifer is pretty discouraging. You target the shale
layer, you don't target other layers which are useless and offer no use to the operator. Just like you said, money is everything. Why would you
waste money on cracking layers other than the target layers? We can map out the cracks pretty efficiently and accurately.
I know when I cut glass the glass doesn't always break where the score is, but evidently when someone with a degree does it it does.
Again, you're not grasping what I'm saying. You got different rock layers, and those layers fracture at different stresses. We know what kind of
rocks those layers are composed of, and if you know what they're composed of, we can see how the layers are situated (folded, anticline, syncline,
etc.) in the ground. A little off topic, but that is how you get the pressure gradient of the formation and when you drill in a formation, you have
to sustain the drilling fluid at a certain density so you don't fracture the formation. If the density is too high, there is too much hydrostatic
pressure which will crack layers, and you will get fluid loss which is the BIGGEST concern when drilling. If have a too low of a density, you will
get a blowout. This applies to the drilling fluid when drilling, that is why it's important to know what layers you're drilling and that is why there
is a well log analysis. This is done BEFORE any fracking goes on.
Now back to fracking, cracks mitigate in a certain way, while you can't predict exactly where they go, you can get a great idea and when you map the
microseisms, engineers and geologists can control where they go. Again, I brought up the point and claim that you said you don't know where cracks
can go, but we do know where they go. We can use basic physics, and the understanding of the layers to understand the formation that is being
When you have lived almost all your life in mining towns, you get to understand how it works if you have an interest in the subject. I know a couple
of mining engineers and also people who do blasting at the mine. I even knew a guy who had the job of testing areas for the seismographic effect of
blasting when people complained. I live seven miles from the mine and our pictures are always crooked when they blast the thick plate of dolomite.
Sweet, I know many, many petroleum engineers, that's why I got into it myself. I know petroleum geologists and my best friend is a senior drilling
engineer for a major operator who runs # and is pretty much a badass. Without giving out too many details which can reveal too much identifying
information, I came to learn the industry pretty well over the years and gained knowledge and taken a neutral standpoint. I mean, nothing is
completely safe, you think placing asphalt all over the continental US is good for the environment? Where is the bitching about that? Look how much
landscape is harmed from asphalt being placed for roads, we are #ing up the environment. You think treating roads with chemicals and poison and
smacking it on the ground to lay roads impacts anything?
It's great having an interest in things and knowing you do not have to believe everything because it looks goon on paper. I'm sure the state of the US
economy looks great on paper.
What I showed you, was not just to look good on paper. It's basic geology which any undergrad would understand, any geologist would understand, and
anyone who works in the field would understand. It's not really magic. It's the truth.
I'm not trying to discredit you, I am just trying to inform you that the evidence may have been structured so it can be used to show it is safer than
it is because of the interests of the people involved.
You're not discrediting me, you're discrediting yourself by denying the basics. I came and told you that we do know pretty accurately where the
cracks go, and showed you why and how.
edit on 7-5-2015 by Laxpla because: (no reason given)