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Masonic Iconography - Double Headed Black Eagle

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posted on May, 4 2015 @ 05:15 PM
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The double headed black eagle is one of the most used symbols for European royalty. I'm curious if this is just an "over-used" symbol, or if it holds some very important meaning to it.

My main question comes from the website's use of this symbolism: hamitic.wordpress.com...
This website takes that symbol, and adds some Latin to it, which was obviously created recently.
hamitic.files.wordpress.com...

BUT, is there truth to the image?

They have added in the "E-v13" to the image, because the site is devoted to Nimrod's Hamitic descendants.
I'm more curious in the double headed eagle's Masonic link.

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Here are some things that I found out:

The double headed eagle masonic symbol was trademarked:
www.trademarkia.com...
This trademark seems to point to the Scottish Rite supreme council

Here's a book cover that shows the icon's use in the Scottish Rite
upload.wikimedia.org...

Another Scottish Rite Book Cover:
nationalheritagemuseum.typepad.com...


The same iconography is shown on Crowley's grave:
img.photobucket.com...

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So, is there a reason for the prevalence of the double headed Eagle?
Is there a link to the European Royalty, Nimrod Descendants, and the Masons?

I have found that two of the oldest Masonic texts reference Nimrod.
Is this all coincidence?

I'm excited to hear what you think...

Oh yeah, and there's the whole Colombia connection with USA
District of Colombia
Colombia Broadcast
etc etc

Well, Colombia seems to be a link to Nimrod's mother/wife/killer Semiramis




posted on May, 4 2015 @ 05:19 PM
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originally posted by: ThreeDeuce
Oh yeah, and there's the whole Colombia connection with USA
District of Colombia
Colombia Broadcast
etc etc

Well, Colombia seems to be a link to Nimrod's mother/wife/killer Semiramis


Columbia was one of the name options for the United States before they settled on America. It had nothing to do with Nimrod and was a creation of the British Colonists, being a play on Columbus.



posted on May, 4 2015 @ 06:00 PM
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All I could ever determine was that it ultimately referenced the "double" or "split" mind, one having to do with the symbolic/spiritual world, the other being the material world. Of course there will be different definitions dependent upon who uses it, and whatever source you manage to happen upon.
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posted on May, 4 2015 @ 06:19 PM
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I too have been very curious....

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on May, 4 2015 @ 07:09 PM
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a reply to: bkfd54

Thanks for the link to your eagle thread..... I hadn't been attempting to compare it to the single eagle symbolism that is rampantly used, but I don't know why not!

You bring up a good point, about the way that the single Eagle is facing.

Is the double eagle symoblizing both the physical and spiritual? exoteric and esoteric nature?

Perhaps it is something bigger.

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I do think that there are some parallels between the two threads.....
But, what is the difference?

The single eagle seems to be much "newer", Boy Scouts, USA etc etc,
where the Double eagle seems to be older, European Flags and Scottish Rite.

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As for our nation's symbol, is there a reason that it is a single eagle versus a double?

We know that the double eagle is used in Masonry. But the single Eagle does not have as much use.
Perhaps they didn't need the double Eagle for the US crest, because they had included so many other numerous Masonic symbols.



posted on May, 4 2015 @ 07:19 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I appreciate your insight, but it is quite a jump to say that we KNOW that "it had nothing to do with Nimrod". There are many different parts that are similar between the two.

Columbia means Dove, Semiramis turned into a dove when she died.

Semiramis is told to be the main focus of Satanism, this is a strong parallel to the Statue of Liberty (in bronze), and the Columbia icon both holding the torch.
There was a History Channel show (forgetting the name), but they pointed out all of the links to New York City and Satanism, with the two big ones being the statue of liberty, and Rockefeller plaza. There was more, but that is all that I remember at this time.

Also, I have found quite a number of Nimrod connections to the Masons. The two oldest Masonic texts that I have seen both reference Nimrod. One of them proposes Nimrod as the original master mason.

The Columbus explanation sounds like an excuse to me, as even Christopher Columbus is questioned today..........



posted on May, 4 2015 @ 07:30 PM
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a reply to: ThreeDeuce

I think they use it because they think it looks cool.
I specifically asked about it's symbolism when I got my 32nd degree. No one had an answer.
Thus began my disenchantment with the fraternity.



posted on May, 4 2015 @ 08:37 PM
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a reply to: butcherguy

Thought it interesting to see it trademarked www.trademarkia.com...

This guy has just normal corporate trademarks, click on his name to see (James hellewge). This is the oldest and only masonic trademark that he registered.

Now, did he do it to make money? Possible. I don't know how long the trademark is active, but just that is currently dead. But, surely he would not have been able to trademark something that he wasn't closely tied to.

Surely, the trademark office would have known what that symbol is, and not passed it frivolously.

To me, this makes it more interesting.



posted on May, 4 2015 @ 08:39 PM
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a reply to: ThreeDeuce

Its a symbol originally used to represent both western and eastern parts of the Roman empire as being ruled by a single power.


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posted on May, 4 2015 @ 08:47 PM
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a reply to: tadaman

So Roman was the first use?



posted on May, 4 2015 @ 08:48 PM
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a reply to: ThreeDeuce
Here's a site for the eagle and Scottish Rite: www.valleyofreading.org...

EDIT: Symbols are arbitrary and ambiguous, not used for any singular use or meaning. Symbols will be used by different groups, cultures, organizations, etc. for different reasons.
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posted on May, 4 2015 @ 09:09 PM
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Greetings threeduece;

Over my time researching, studying , learning - externally and internally, as well as with certain people on this planet..

My conclusion is the double headed eagle represents Saturn, the black sun. 32 degrees Fahrenheit represents 0° Celsius, or the freezing point.

32°F = freezing point. As Jesus died/froze at 32 and resurrected @33. Hence 32° frozen = death, 33° = resurrection.

The 33° degree comes back to life, to transcend the body, as the internal spirit. Jesus died on the stake, which is metaphorically the spine, during "his" internal journey. Spirit = spear it, struck it in the spine/stake.

This all relates to the internal journey of the spine, in true freemasonry, not the surface guy fraternity joke.. there are 33 vertebrae in the spine, after that you transcend into the top of your temple/kingdom/crown chakra/heaven...

The black eagle is the symbol of the black star, that governs the lesser planetary bodies. The opposing sun (as opposed to the one we see in the sky). The Lord of the rings, the father of time/life cycle.. so many names and hidden metaphors.

In specific circles throughout humanity; there is lunar worship, saturnianalian worship (goes back to Roman and much further back). Saturn is the king of the moons, and sent it's Trojan Horse to earth, what a gift that was. Once upon a time there wasn't a moon, and then there was, when that red dragon/black eagle/phoenix/Santa gave us the gift...

The gift of sin, the akkadian resemblance of the moon. Which governs half of our races Menstruation periods, throughout the moonth. What happens in this cycle? Our fee-male (she pays the price)counterpart produces an egg through ovaries (which look like a horned head). We can call it the moon egg, where (Wo)Men are born IN Sin, or born in the moon egg of this cycle.. and given birth as seamen in this planned Net. ..(those reborn in sin, another life cycle-hence karma)

Saturn can be seen as the master mind behind it all, where some see just a gas giant object, others see it internally and astrologicaly..

There is too much to write about all of this in a forum, it's knowledge throughout millenia, hence akkadian to Egypt, to Greece to Rome, to more modern times..

Saturn is the G, the grandmaster architect who created the false blueprint. The REAL free masons (free MA's sons = sons of MA) are architects of internal temples and external blueprint to control man, such as their master has done on this very planned Net with its Trojan Horse, the moon.

The entire structure of today's society is based on a blueprint, manufactured by the REAL masons of MA.. who care not of recycled souls. They care of building/MA-stering their temples and transcending the 33° of the human blueprint (internal structure).

They created London, America, Washington DC, Paris .. all the major and powerful centers on this planet, through the blueprint.

Isn't it amazing how politicians, presidents ,astronauts, judges, CEOs, nation leaders etc... are high degree masons? They have the internal blueprint, and aim to create the false EXTERNAL blueprint to keep everyone on the outside (you and i) stuck in this system, like crabs in a bucket, fighting eachother and holding eachother back.

The program is real; language, doctrination, laws, governments, society structures and heirarchies.. feed THE FED your money and souls... they are hungry for more.

The black eagle is the Internal aide of this crap. "As above, so below". Ring a bell? How did these factions gain such planetary control and control over the only "intelligent species in the universe"?

They followed the blueprint. If we can break the external trap that is SQUARING THE CIRCLE (what is the FM logo?), we have to defeat the INTERNAL blueprint that has our soul energy/light "trapped" in this prismatic-pentagram-geometry.
(Stars in geometry are pentagrams/bodies. The USA has 50 pentagrams/bodies/blueprints that humans residein)

Throughout the year the moon journeys Earth, SQUARING the circle.

"As above so below".

Again , the symbol of an eagle is your last worries. It's hidden within the internal structure of our being. We must first defeat the evil-trickery of masonic blueprints EXTERNAL (the waking reality) first.

Sorry to overload. Take with grain of salt. I'm crazy




posted on May, 4 2015 @ 09:39 PM
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a reply to: ThreeDeuce

Yeah, I think its first use was as a standard for a Roman legion.

It has stuck around since then.


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posted on May, 4 2015 @ 11:50 PM
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a reply to: Elementalist


They followed the blueprint. If we can break the external trap that is SQUARING THE CIRCLE (what is the FM logo?), we have to defeat the INTERNAL blueprint that has our soul energy/light "trapped" in this prismatic-pentagram-geometry.
(Stars in geometry are pentagrams/bodies. The USA has 50 pentagrams/bodies/blueprints that humans residein)


Is this way of breaking it more to do with the Chakra's and gnosis for the wedding within our brains and what is called kundalini.

www.spiritofthescripture.com...
What the Twelve Tribes of Israel and the Tabernacle Really Symbolize

and

www.spiritofthescripture.com...

Or love and spirit?

There are people here who are not loving, yet still have this knowledge, and what parts are the most important in freeing a spirit from they're recycling?
Fragmentation and Ascension



posted on May, 5 2015 @ 02:59 AM
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One of the earlier images is from the Holy Roman Empire, possibly dating back to 962 AD.





en.wikipedia.org...

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I believe the similarity of the symbolism in heraldry, and state symbolism, common to many different European countries is due to their common origin from ancient times.

Namely, I believe the peoples of most European countries (Germany, Netherlands/Dutch Republic, Austria, Rome/Italy/Tuscany, Greece, Spain, Portugal, etc.) and even the UK, (and therefore also the peoples of the United States) have their origins in, or some sort of cultural relationship, to the peoples of the ancient Canaan region which include the Israelites and Canaanites (aka Phoenicians).

I believe this is self-evident by the study of the origins of the language, and alphabet, of all of the above countries.

"Phoenician alphabet is the ancestor of the Greek alphabet and, hence, of all Western alphabets."
phoenicia.org...


"Phoenician was a language originally spoken in the coastal (Mediterranean) region then called "Canaan" in Phoenician, .. Phoenician is a Semitic language of the Canaanite subgroup; its closest living relative is Hebrew.. "
en.wikipedia.org...

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The ancient people of the Canaan region have their origins in the ancient Sumerians.

(An example of a connection between the peoples of the Canaan region and ancient Mesopotamia is the biblical Abraham who was supposedly from the Sumerian city-state of Ur.)

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Anyway, (likely) the earliest depiction of the double headed Phoenix/eagle is Sumerian - the origin of most western countries.



earthbeforeflood.com...



posted on May, 5 2015 @ 03:04 AM
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originally posted by: Elementalist
Greetings threeduece;

Over my time researching, studying , learning - externally and internally, as well as with certain people on this planet..

My conclusion is the double headed eagle represents Saturn, the black sun. 32 degrees Fahrenheit represents 0° Celsius, or the freezing point.

32°F = freezing point. As Jesus died/froze at 32 and resurrected @33. Hence 32° frozen = death, 33° = resurrection.

Fahrenheit (symbol °F) is a temperature scale based on one proposed in 1724 by the German physicist Daniel Gabriel Fahrenheit (1686–1736), after whom the scale is named.

88mph



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posted on May, 5 2015 @ 06:00 AM
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originally posted by: KSigMason
a reply to: ThreeDeuce
Here's a site for the eagle and Scottish Rite: www.valleyofreading.org...

EDIT: Symbols are arbitrary and ambiguous, not used for any singular use or meaning. Symbols will be used by different groups, cultures, organizations, etc. for different reasons.

Interestingly enough, this is where I did my degree work.



posted on May, 5 2015 @ 08:03 AM
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a reply to: nOraKat

Sumeria would make sense, and it would support the Nimrod and Columbia connection. The masonic page linked a few replies before yours says 2 thousand years before Egypt. I believe this would place in Sumer.

I have seen this icon on the standards of many of my ancestors. Yes, they rule countries, but I don't understand the symbolism.

In that masonic link, they seem to talk about the double headed white eagle. Is there any significant difference in the meaning of the coloring? Double black vs double white?



posted on May, 5 2015 @ 08:06 AM
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a reply to: Shadow Herder

This also is the first time I have ever heard the theory of 32 degrees and the resurrection. However, many of the nation's that I know do not have faith in the Bible, or in the lineage of Noah.

Idk, but very interesting theory on 32 death, 33 resurrection.



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