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but they're both still deadly weapons.
originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
originally posted by: NavyDoc
originally posted by: superman2012
originally posted by: Answer
originally posted by: superman2012
a reply to: Answer
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I can see I'm not going to get through to most on this thread. I also see people not even talking about my original post anymore. Not one person has shown me to be wrong. If you are preparing for something negative, that means in one way or another, you fear that it may happen. If you feel the need to continue, pm me, I'm guessing the majority will just high five each other and say, "we win!", without thinking about anything.
I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you.
Take care.
Actually, just the inverse. People have been explaining to you that prudence/preparation are not synonymous with fear. That you have lacked understanding of that may lie in the fact that you don't seem to have prepared for anything or felt the need to do so, since your contingency needs are met by others.
I think it is more about assumptions and beliefs. People can become a bit possessive and tyrannical when you start treading on these. Unfortunately, the OP made a slight mistake in titling his post. People have a large variety of misconceptions when it come to emotional issues.
The average person will say pain is a horrible thing, but without the ability to feel pain, we would have not made if very far as a species. IMHO, I feel the same about fear. Pain nor fear are not just for weak people and things that should be rejected or scorned.
This illusion perpetrated on us through, comic books, cartoons, movies, and TV, that everybody has to be a super tough badass, to be considered of worth, is one hell of successful con job. Okay, when I was a kid, we didn't have a TV. Drop your mouth and put your tongue back in your mouth. Yeah. Some of us old farts are still around. I got my illusions through wild tales told to me by my Blarney Stone kissing Irish-Jewish grandfather, books and the radio. That is all we had. That and our imagination, so we can be forgiven, for believing what we were told by the government by way of news reels, watch the mouth, or the media. We had no way of checking and the lies, the brainwashing advertising, and the conditioning, just kept on coming. Bigger! Brighter! Extra! Free! and East Cred-dot, were the buzz words of a century.
I admit, we paved the way for this fiasco we are in the middle of, but we have a good excuse. We were dupped. You have the access to the knowledge of the entire world at your fingertips, yet you are still falling for the con. Stop believing this crap. Stop looking towards other people just as lost and confused as you are, for your answers.
I know everyone knows the story of the Ant and the Grasshopper. It is not a matter of fear. It is a matter of fact. If you do not prepare you are either at the mercy of those that have prepared, or you are screwed, if something unfortunate does happen. It doesn't matter, when you are alone, hurt, cold, wet, hungry and defenseless. And if the possibility doesn't frighten you, then you are either mentally deficient, or delusional. Don't tell me you are just an optimistic individual that rejects all negative things, therefore you are protected. If that is true, we should line you all up around the entire planet and let you work your magic. Then the rest of us can get rid of all the guns, stop working, stop preparing and just wait for you guys to send milk, honey and manna down to us.
I didn't mean to get testy but let's be honest. Life has some pretty nasty curve balls up it's sleeve. We all can't all be lucky, so somebody better be preparing. I think we are extremely stupid not to be Grasshoppers, especially since our government is spending so much money that we "don't" have "preparing" for something. I guess they are terrified of something. I wonder what?
Well fair enough. However, in these debates, the anti-gun crowed uses the term "fear" as if we were operating under irrational paranoia rather than your definition of "fear" as rational caution intended to forestall unfortunate circumstances.
I've never seen charges for "assault with a deadly Super Soaker". Citation needed.
originally posted by: Mianeye
a reply to: ScientificRailgun
but they're both still deadly weapons.
So is water, see how silly it is to compare water to a gun.
They are different problems, with different solutions, should not be compared but treated independently (which they are Btw.), But every time you people use it as a counter, it defies logic to ignore one problem by compare it to another.
originally posted by: Mianeye
a reply to: Semicollegiate
Well, no deaths would be nice, but that is impossible, so eliminate the ones that can be eliminated relatively easy, or avoid worsening the problem.
But as i said, you can't fix the gun violence in the US, it's to late.
originally posted by: Semicollegiate
Birth is the leading cause of death.
The person commits the murder by drowning, not the water. Water is water, and you falling back on such a flawed premise shows how flimsy your argument is.
originally posted by: Mianeye
a reply to: ScientificRailgun
Ever heard of death by drowning, happens all the time as murder.
So you are saying nothing is done to car safety, and trafficlights, speed limits, safety barriers, stronger cars, seatbelts and what not, is pointless.
I can't stand your logic, it completely fails IMO, sorry...
originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
Also, are you saying that all the regulations to owning a gun haven't been effective to helping stop gun violence?
The person commits the murder by drowning, not the water.
and yet cars STILL kill more people per capita
You done being a contrarian? Attacking the wording, and not content? It just proves my point further that you're not interested in genuine debate, just belittling tactics and snide remarks.
originally posted by: Mianeye
a reply to: ScientificRailgun
The person commits the murder by drowning, not the water.
and yet cars STILL kill more people per capita
Mhmm Classic nitpicking.
Agreed. I made the point several pages back where I said I wish the U.S. were more like Japan with their (admittedly draconian) laws against gun ownership. But you're quite right, the veritable genie has been out of the bottle since the U.S. was born. And with poor border enforcement and such a large landmass it's unlikely it'll ever be brought under control without a tyrant and millions of deaths.
originally posted by: hotel1
As far as the US goes the fire arms genie is out of the bottle and it is not going back in anytime soon, if ever. All arguments against it are folly.