September 11: The New Pearl Harbor [Video]

a reply to: BennyHavensOh

I mean no offense to anyone in particular here, but it surely appears that we have some here that are paid to silence anyone who would question authority and if this is correct what is the point anyway.

Another baseless claim on here.
ATS is entertainment for me.
No one pays me for this.
I enjoy reading some of the stupid theories pushed as fact.
Here is one of my favorites.

I find the 911 section particularly fun.

a reply to: jaffo

You go ahead and believe an ignorant fantasy.

Be my guest.

Enjoy your sleep

Ill see you when you wake up!

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: Shadow Herder

What an ignorant thing to say...

Not one person has been able to come up with a reason that enemy countries would help to cover up a 911 conspiracy.
Iran has engineers. But even they believe it stemmed from 19 Saudis crashing planes into buildings.

That's not what Canada thinks, or Russia.

a reply to: OOOOOO

That's not what Canada thinks, or Russia.

Where's the proof that Canada or Russia believes 911 was a conspiracy?
Why aren't Iran's engineers shouting that the building could not have come down from planes and fire?
You can't seriously believe that the US is silencing ALL the worlds engineers can you?
Are you saying the US is paying off 99% of the worlds engineers?

What about the worlds fire departments?
Is the US paying off them to agree that a burning steel building can collapse?

Not one US fire department will enter any burning structure that has trusses above their heads.
Why is that?

Some people want to believe in their TPTB conspiracies so badly that they ignore simple everyday facts of life.

a reply to: samkent

______beforeitsnews/9-11-and-ground-zero/2012/03/a-canadian-public-investigation-of-911-commences-1954377.html


"Why aren't Iran's engineers shouting that the building could not have come down from planes and fire?"
HERE'S WHY


www1.ae911truth.org... DISTRICT COURT RULES IRAN BEHIND 9/11 ATTACKS
December 23, 2011

A federal district court in Manhattan yesterday entered a historic ruling that reveals new facts about Iran's support of al Qaeda in the 9/11 attacks. U.S. District Judge George B. Daniels ruled yesterday that Iran and Hezbollah materially and directly supported al Qaeda in the September 11, 2001 attacks and are legally responsible for damages to hundreds of family members of 9/11 victims who are plaintiffs in the case.

a reply to: samkent
on February 9, 2015 by WashingtonsBlog
Painting by Anthony Freda

Governments from Around the World Admit They Do It

There are many documented false flag attacks, where a government carries out a terror attack … and then falsely blames its enemy for political purposes.

In the following 42 instances, officials in the government which carried out the attack (or seriously proposed an attack) admits to it, either orally or in writing:

(1) Japanese troops set off a small explosion on a train track in 1931, and falsely blamed it on China in order to justify an invasion of Manchuria. This is known as the “Mukden Incident” or the “Manchurian Incident”. The Tokyo International Military Tribunal found: “Several of the participators in the plan, including Hashimoto [a high-ranking Japanese army officer], have on various occasions admitted their part in the plot and have stated that the object of the ‘Incident’ was to afford an excuse for the occupation of Manchuria by the Kwantung Army ….” And see this.

(2) A major with the Nazi SS admitted at the Nuremberg trials that – under orders from the chief of the Gestapo – he and some other Nazi operatives faked attacks on their own people and resources which they blamed on the Poles, to justify the invasion of Poland.

(3) Nazi general Franz Halder also testified at the Nuremberg trials that Nazi leader Hermann Goering admitted to setting fire to the German parliament building in 1933, and then falsely blaming the communists for the arson.

(4) Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev admitted in writing that the Soviet Union’s Red Army shelled the Russian village of Mainila in 1939 – while blaming the attack on Finland – as a basis for launching the “Winter War” against Finland. Russian president Boris Yeltsin agreed that Russia had been the aggressor in the Winter War.

(5) The Russian Parliament, current Russian president Putin and former Soviet leader Gorbachev all admit that Soviet leader Joseph Stalin ordered his secret police to execute 22,000 Polish army officers and civilians in 1940, and falsely blame it on the Nazis.

(6) The British government admits that – between 1946 and 1948 – it bombed 5 ships carrying Jews attempting to flee the Holocaust to seek safety in Palestine, set up a fake group called “Defenders of Arab Palestine”, and then had the psuedo-group falsely claim responsibility for the bombings (and see this, this and this).

(7) Israel admits that in 1954, an Israeli terrorist cell operating in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including U.S. diplomatic facilities, then left behind “evidence” implicating the Arabs as the culprits (one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to identify the bombers, and several of the Israelis later confessed) (and see this and this).

(8) The CIA admits that it hired Iranians in the 1950′s to pose as Communists and stage bombings in Iran in order to turn the country against its democratically-elected prime minister.

(9) The Turkish Prime Minister admitted that the Turkish government carried out the 1955 bombing on a Turkish consulate in Greece – also damaging the nearby birthplace of the founder of modern Turkey – and blamed it on Greece, for the purpose of inciting and justifying anti-Greek violence.

(10) The British Prime Minister admitted to his defense secretary that he and American president Dwight Eisenhower approved a plan in 1957 to carry out attacks in Syria and blame it on the Syrian government as a way to effect regime change.

(11) The former Italian Prime Minister, an Italian judge, and the former head of Italian counterintelligence admit that NATO, with the help of the Pentagon and CIA, carried out terror bombings in Italy and other European countries in the 1950s and blamed the communists, in order to rally people’s support for their governments in Europe in their fight against communism. As one participant in this formerly-secret program stated: “You had to attack civilians, people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple. They were supposed to force these people, the Italian public, to turn to the state to ask for greater security” (and see this) (Italy and other European countries subject to the terror campaign had joined NATO before the bombings occurred). And watch this BBC special. They also allegedly carried out terror attacks in France, Belgium, Denmark, Germany, Greece, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, the UK, and other countries.

(12) In 1960, American Senator George Smathers suggested that the U.S. launch “a false attack made on Guantanamo Bay which would give us the excuse of actually fomenting a fight which would then give us the excuse to go in and [overthrow Castro]“.

(13) Official State Department documents show that, in 1961, the head of the Joint Chiefs and other high-level officials discussed blowing up a consulate in the Dominican Republic in order to justify an invasion of that country. The plans were not carried out, but they were all discussed as serious proposals.

(14) As admitted by the U.S. government, recently declassified documents show that in 1962, the American Joint Chiefs of Staff signed off on a plan to blow up AMERICAN airplanes (using an elaborate plan involving the switching of airplanes), and also to commit terrorist acts on American soil, and then to blame it on the Cubans in order to justify an invasion of Cuba. See the following ABC news report; the official documents; and watch this interview with the former Washington Investigative Producer for ABC’s World News Tonight with Peter Jennings.

(15) In 1963, the U.S. Department of Defense wrote a paper promoting attacks on nations within the Organization of American States – such as Trinidad-Tobago or Jamaica – and then falsely blaming them on Cuba.

LOOK AT NUMBER 14

(16) The U.S. Department of Defense even suggested covertly paying a person in the Castro government to attack the United States: “The only area remaining for consideration then would be to bribe one of Castro’s subordinate commanders to initiate an attack on Guantanamo.”

(17) The NSA admits that it lied about what really happened in the Gulf of Tonkin incident in 1964 … manipulating data to make it look like North Vietnamese boats fired on a U.S. ship so as to create a false justification for the Vietnam war.

(18) A U.S. Congressional committee admitted that – as part of its “Cointelpro” campaign – the FBI had used many provocateurs in the 1950s through 1970s to carry out violent acts and falsely blame them on political activists.

(19) A top Turkish general admitted that Turkish forces burned down a mosque on Cyprus in the 1970s and blamed it on their enemy. He explained: “In Special War, certain acts of sabotage are staged and blamed on the enemy to increase public resistance. We did this on Cyprus; we even burnt down a mosque.” In response to the surprised correspondent’s incredulous look the general said, “I am giving an example”.

(20) The German government admitted (and see this) that, in 1978, the German secret service detonated a bomb in the outer wall of a prison and planted “escape tools” on a prisoner – a member of the Red Army Faction – which the secret service wished to frame the bombing on.

(21) A Mossad agent admits that, in 1984, Mossad planted a radio transmitter in Gaddaffi’s compound in Tripoli, Libya which broadcast fake terrorist trasmissions recorded by Mossad, in order to frame Gaddaffi as a terrorist supporter. Ronald Reagan bombed Libya immediately thereafter.

(22) The South African Truth and Reconciliation Council found that, in 1989, the Civil Cooperation Bureau (a covert branch of the South African Defense Force) approached an explosives expert and asked him “to participate in an operation aimed at discrediting the ANC [the African National Congress] by bombing the police vehicle of the investigating officer into the murder incident”, thus framing the ANC for the bombing.

(23) An Algerian diplomat and several officers in the Algerian army admit that, in the 1990s, the Algerian army frequently massacred Algerian civilians and then blamed Islamic militants for the killings (and see this video; and Agence France-Presse, 9/27/2002, French Court Dismisses Algerian Defamation Suit Against Author).

(24) An Indonesian fact-finding team investigated violent riots which occurred in 1998, and determined that “elements of the military had been involved in the riots, some of which were deliberately provoked”.

(25) Senior Russian Senior military and intelligence officers admit that the KGB blew up Russian apartment buildings in 1999 and falsely blamed it on Chechens, in order to justify an invasion of Chechnya (and see this report and this discussion).

(26) According to the Washington Post, Indonesian police admit that the Indonesian military killed American teachers in Papua in 2002 and blamed the murders on a Papuan separatist group in order to get that group listed as a terrorist organization.

(27) The well-respected former Indonesian president also admits that the government probably had a role in the Bali bombings.

(28) As reported by BBC, the New York Times, and Associated Press, Macedonian officials admit that the government murdered 7 innocent immigrants in cold blood and pretended that they were Al Qaeda soldiers attempting to assassinate Macedonian police, in order to join the “war on terror”.

(29) Senior police officials in Genoa, Italy admitted that – in July 2001, at the G8 summit in Genoa – planted two Molotov cocktails and faked the stabbing of a police officer, in order to justify a violent crackdown against protesters.

(30) Although the FBI now admits that the 2001 anthrax attacks were carried out by one or more U.S. government scientists, a senior FBI official says that the FBI was actually told to blame the Anthrax attacks on Al Qaeda by White House officials (remember what the anthrax letters looked like). Government officials also confirm that the white House tried to link the anthrax to Iraq as a justification for regime change in that country.

(31) Similarly, the U.S. falsely blamed Iraq for playing a role in the 9/11 attacks – as shown by a memo from the defense secretary – as one of the main justifications for launching the Iraq war. Even after the 9/11 Commission admitted that there was no connection, Dick Cheney said that the evidence is “overwhelming” that al Qaeda had a relationship with Saddam Hussein’s regime, that Cheney “probably” had information unavailable to the Commission, and that the media was not ‘doing their homework’ in reporting such ties. Top U.S. government officials now admit that the Iraq war was really launched for oil … not 9/11 or weapons of mass destruction (despite previous “lone wolf” claims, many U.S. government officials now say that 9/11 was state-sponsored terror; but Iraq was not the state which backed the hijackers).

(32) Former Department of Justice lawyer John Yoo suggested in 2005 that the US should go on the offensive against al-Qaeda, having “our intelligence agencies create a false terrorist organization. It could have its own websites, recruitment centers, training camps, and fundraising operations. It could launch fake terrorist operations and claim credit for real terrorist strikes, helping to sow confusion within al-Qaeda’s ranks, causing operatives to doubt others’ identities and to question the validity of communications.”

(33) United Press International reported in June 2005:

U.S. intelligence officers are reporting that some of the insurgents in Iraq are using recent-model Beretta 92 pistols, but the pistols seem to have had their serial numbers erased. The numbers do not appear to have been physically removed; the pistols seem to have come off a production line without any serial numbers. Analysts suggest the lack of serial numbers indicates that the weapons were intended for intelligence operations or terrorist cells with substantial government backing. Analysts speculate that these guns are probably from either Mossad or the CIA. Analysts speculate that agent provocateurs may be using the untraceable weapons even as U.S. authorities use insurgent attacks against civilians as evidence of the illegitimacy of the resistance.

(34) Undercover Israeli soldiers admitted in 2005 to throwing stones at other Israeli soldiers so they could blame it on Palestinians, as an excuse to crack down on peaceful protests by the Palestinians.

(35) Quebec police admitted that, in 2007, thugs carrying rocks to a peaceful protest were actually undercover Quebec police officers (and see this).

(36) At the G20 protests in London in 2009, a British member of parliament saw plain clothes police officers attempting to incite the crowd to violence.

(37) Egyptian politicians admitted (and see this) that government employees looted priceless museum artifacts in 2011 to try to discredit the protesters.

(38) A Colombian army colonel has admitted that his unit murdered 57 civilians, then dressed them in uniforms and claimed they were rebels killed in combat.

(39) The highly-respected writer for the Telegraph Ambrose Evans-Pritchard says that the head of Saudi intelligence – Prince Bandar – recently admitted that the Saudi government controls “Chechen” terrorists.

(40) High-level American sources admitted that the Turkish government – a fellow NATO country – carried out the chemical weapons attacks blamed on the Syrian government; and high-ranking Turkish government admitted on tape plans to carry out attacks and blame it on the Syrian government.

(41) The former Ukrainian security chief admits that the sniper attacks which started the Ukrainian coup were carried out in order to frame others.

(42) Britain’s spy agency has admitted (and see this) that it carries out “digital false flag” attacks on targets, framing people by writing offensive or unlawful material … and blaming it on the target.

In addition, two-thirds of the City of Rome burned down in a huge fire on July 19, 64 A.D. The Roman people blamed the Emperor Nero for starting the fire. Some top Roman leaders – including the Roman consul Cassius Dio, as well as historians like Suetonius – agreed that Nero started the fire (based largely on the fact that the Roman Senate had just rejected Nero’s application to clear 300 acres in Rome so that he could build a palatial complex, and that the fire allowed him to build his complex). Regardless of who actually started the fire, Nero – in the face of public opinion accusing him of arson – falsely blamed the Christians for starting the fire. He then rounded up and brutally tortured and murdered scores of Christians for something they likely didn’t do.

We didn’t include this in the list above, because – if Nero did start the fire on purpose – he did it for his own reasons (to build his palatial complex), and not for geopolitical reasons benefiting his nation.

So Common … There’s a Name for It

The use of the bully’s trick is so common that it was given a name hundreds of years ago.

“False flag terrorism” is defined as a government attacking its own people, then blaming others in order to justify going to war against the people it blames. Or as Wikipedia defines it:

False flag operations are covert operations conducted by governments, corporations, or other organizations, which are designed to appear as if they are being carried out by other entities. The name is derived from the military concept of flying false colors; that is, flying the flag of a country other than one’s own. False flag operations are not limited to war and counter-insurgency operations, and have been used in peace-time; for example, during Italy’s strategy of tension.

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: OOOOOO

That's not what Canada thinks, or Russia.

Where's the proof that Canada or Russia believes 911 was a conspiracy?

Some people want to believe in their TPTB conspiracies so badly that they ignore simple everyday facts of life.

2015 the Year of Truth? Putin Reveals Possession of 9/11 Satellite Imagery: U.S. Complicit in False Flag Attack
anonhq.com...

www.youtube.com...

a reply to: samkent

thank you!!
that video made my night!!

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: fireladdie

A collapse is one thing but something disintegrating into ashes is something else


Also no one has ever explained the collapse of building 7


You know that big skyscraper that fell down and they decided not to even mention in the 911 official report.


BTW Funny you mention this highway.

I was on Route 78 in NJ the day of 911.

I actually road raged and chased a guy in Somerset county NJ almost all the way to Pennsylvania the morning of 911 before it happend

Reason 911 Commission did not mention WTC 7 (also did not mention WTC 3 - Marriott Hotel, St Nicholas Church, 130
Liberty St (Deutsch Bank) WTC 4, 5, 6 among other buildings which either collapsed that day or were fatally damaged and
demolished later) was that they were not part of their scope . Their focus was in the intelligence failures which
lead up to hijackings and the crashing of the planes into the WTC and Pentagon

It was up to FEMA and later NIST to do the analysis of why the buildings collapsed.

originally posted by: OOOOOO
2015 the Year of Truth? Putin Reveals Possession of 9/11 Satellite Imagery: U.S. Complicit in False Flag Attack

Made 4 months ago, and still nothing released.... that certainly tells you something!

a reply to: bobbypurify

Here is series of video from fire photographer Steve Spak showing fires in WTC 7 (mostly from North face along Barclay St)

www.911myths.com...

Dont look like they are oxygen starved........

In fact can see fires jumping from floor to floor

Black smoke does not indicate oxygen starvation , but shows fuel is carbon rich . Open air petroleum fires emit black
smoke are they oxygen starved...??

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: Shadow Herder

You heard the ATC cursing to shutoff the simulation and angered as it was allow to continue. Its a fact that the wargames were used to make the attack a success.

...If you ask me it wouldn't be that hard to pull the whole thing off again.

Your last sentence chilled me to the bone. I agree with you that there was no conspiracy. I very much hope that your last sentence doesn't come true, though I fear it will.

I watched part of the first video, but after awhile, I just couldn't watch any more. I don't believe and never will believe that 9/11 was a "false flag" or that nonsense. You can call me a sheeple or whatever, I don't care.

9/11 was a horrible tragedy. I think most of us will remember it until the day we die.

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: BennyHavensOh

I mean no offense to anyone in particular here, but it surely appears that we have some here that are paid to silence anyone who would question authority and if this is correct what is the point anyway.

Another baseless claim on here.
ATS is entertainment for me.
No one pays me for this.
I enjoy reading some of the stupid theories pushed as fact.
Here is one of my favorites.

I find the 911 section particularly fun.

Hey, for what it is worth, I have no beef with you. You are entitled to your opinion and although we may never see eye to eye on it, it only gets scary when EVERYONE agrees on something. THAT is when the true evil gets done. I must go with what I know and so should you. In the end it doesn't really matter because there will be more of these kind of incidents to come, there always are and in the end does it really matter who or how? We degrade as a society and that is clear and whether it is done by plan or simply by happenstance, the result is the same. Be well and give it hell!

a reply to: BennyHavensOh

Hey, for what it is worth, I have no beef with you. You are entitled to your opinion and although we may never see eye to eye on it, it only gets scary when EVERYONE agrees on something.

My next comment doesn't apply to you:

What irks me is those that feel everything is some sort of conspiracy by some unknown high up group.
But they never sit back and think about how things would play out if that were true.
One high up group would be butting heads with another group.
When groups butt heads someone is going to release dirt on someone.
Chaos would ensue.
Someone is bound to feel they didn't get their fair cut.

If big oil were really buying out those 90 mpg carbs from the 70's why didn't Elon Musk end up in a fatal car crash years ago?
If Dick Cheney got richer because he created 911 why does he live the same life style as before?
How about the Bush's? Do they drive gold plated limos?

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: BennyHavensOh

Hey, for what it is worth, I have no beef with you. You are entitled to your opinion and although we may never see eye to eye on it, it only gets scary when EVERYONE agrees on something.

My next comment doesn't apply to you:

What irks me is those that feel everything is some sort of conspiracy by some unknown high up group.
But they never sit back and think about how things would play out if that were true.
One high up group would be butting heads with another group.
When groups butt heads someone is going to release dirt on someone.
Chaos would ensue.
Someone is bound to feel they didn't get their fair cut.

If big oil were really buying out those 90 mpg carbs from the 70's why didn't Elon Musk end up in a fatal car crash years ago?
If Dick Cheney got richer because he created 911 why does he live the same life style as before?
How about the Bush's? Do they drive gold plated limos?

Of course you are right, the world has it's elites and they may work with each other to make their gazillions, but they are enemies at the same time that they are friends, that is how it works. However, Dick Cheney DID make a ton off of the no-bid contracts that followed 911 (maybe not so now with the current sellouts in power), but the Bush's why they worry me. In a country where "any man can grow up to be president", fathers that hand presidencies down to sons and sons who hand them down to brothers, well that just has too much of a ring of monarchy to me. But that's just me. Mark my words we will see a Bush/Clinton "race" in 2016 and when it happens I will be bashing my head into a tree out of frustration.

I DO know from being on the inside that the loss of human life is of absolutely NO concern to those that rule us, unless you are talking about their own. When you are sitting in the high offices of power and you look out to the streets and you hear the trivial issues that the regular people obsess about you cannot help but to look at them as numbers, problems, pawns. This nation has long ago lost it's ability to prioritize it's problems and concentrate on those issues that are critical and those that are not. Our leaders judge us on what we give a damn about and we have not done a good job of conveying the feedback to them at all.

www.youtube.com...

Skip to 2:00, it is how we were taught to think....

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: OOOOOO
2015 the Year of Truth? Putin Reveals Possession of 9/11 Satellite Imagery: U.S. Complicit in False Flag Attack

Made 4 months ago, and still nothing released.... that certainly tells you something!

That was from April 10, 2015, with what is still going on, I doubt Putin is prepared to go all in, just yet.

originally posted by: OOOOOO

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: OOOOOO
2015 the Year of Truth? Putin Reveals Possession of 9/11 Satellite Imagery: U.S. Complicit in False Flag Attack

Made 4 months ago, and still nothing released.... that certainly tells you something!

That was from April 10, 2015,

If you had bothered to actually read the article, you would have seen

The original report was published on February 7th by the Russian political newspaper, Pravda (also in English).

a reply to: samkent

Everything is not a conspiracy, the thing is to be able to discern, what is and what is not real conspiracy, by being a comprehensive investigator. For instance, why does Mitchell Obama, have man hands, I kept googling this question, the answer is she does not have to be a "Trany, it just happens, in the womb, women can get man hands, men can get women hands, it's hormones.

But if you are not aware their is a group of elites, they are in control, they are the Illuminati. The Rothschilds family are at the head, they are Trillionaires, they own Reuthers, Associated press, you never hear about them unless they want you to. J. P. Morgan, was just front man for Rothschild, just as Rockefeller is now.
The Rothschilds own all the central banks, except for the few that, are Nationalized like Iran, Syria, N. Korea, the Rothschilds own the B. I. S., they own half the world, roughly 500 trillions worth.

You fight with them you die, as one of them said in the past, " I care not who rules, as long as I control the money" that is not exact quote.

Cheney started out as a electrician, he has home in Dubai now, with all the dough he took out of Iraq.

The elites are afraid, they need one world order, police state, the Rothschilds planned this over a century ago.

The Rothschilds have been behind all the wars since Napoleon. Fact not conspiracy.