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Texas Governor Dispatches National Guard to Keep An Eye on Special Forces Drill

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posted on May, 3 2015 @ 04:39 PM
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a reply to: Phoenix

Where did I say that? Or even imply it?

Quote me? I'd say I'll wait, but I can't wait that long.




posted on May, 3 2015 @ 04:40 PM
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a reply to: Phoenix

Your source?


Participants:
– US Army Special Forces Command (Green Berets)
– US Navy SEALS
– US Air Force Special Operations Command
– USMC Marine Special Operations Command
– USMC Marine Expeditionary Units
– 82nd Airborne Division
– Interagency Partners

american3rdposition.com...

"Vids of local meetings" isn't much of a source.

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posted on May, 3 2015 @ 04:42 PM
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originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: texasgirl








I just want to point out that Governor Abbott appointed the Texas STATE Guard to watch the situation,





Seems some in the government aren't happy with the governors decision...




Now at least one Texas Republican seems to think the Governor’s move might have marked Jade Helm’s full retard moment because as you can see from the following letter, 16-year Texas House member Todd Smith thinks the decision to have the state guard monitor the US military is nothing short of preposterous.



Dear Governor Abbott,



Let me apologize in advance that your letter pandering to idiots who believe that US Navy Seals and other US military personnel are somehow a threat to be watched has left me livid. As a 16 year Republican member of the Texas House and a patriotic AMERICAN, I am horrified that I have to choose between the possibility that my Governor actually believes this stuff and the possibility that my Governor doesn't have the backbone to stand up to those who do. I'm not sure which is worse. As one of the remaining Republicans who actually believes in making decisions based on facts and evidence- you used to be a judge?- I am appalled that you would give credence to the nonsense mouthed by those who instead make decisions based on internet or radio shock jock driven hysteria. Is there ANYBODY who is going to stand up to this radical nonsense that is cancer on our State and Party? It is alarming that our State Republican leadership is such that we must choose between DEGREES of demagoguery. I know that in many cases you are the better of the two demagogues (see the Lieutenant Governor driven nut job rant regarding your Pre-K program as a recent example). Having been there, I also know that politicians are not always able to speak their mind because they represent large groups of people and not just themselves. But this bone that you have thrown to those who believe that the U.S. Military is a threat to the State of Texas is an embarrassing distance beyond the pale. You are Governor of Texas! This is an open request—from a ghost of our State's recent Republican past—that you act like it. Enough is enough. You have embarrassed and disappointed all Texans who are also informed, patriotic Americans. And it is important to rational governance that thinking Republicans call you out on it.



Sincerely,

Todd Smith







www.zerohedge.com...



That is some letter. Glad he's no longer the Texas Senate rep. (Kelly Hancock pummeled him in the 2012 election with 65% of the vote)



posted on May, 3 2015 @ 04:45 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Lookup Bastrop Texas council meeting JH15, watch video.
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posted on May, 3 2015 @ 04:51 PM
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a reply to: Phage

memoryholeblog.com...

Whatever that blog is has a quote from somebody about FBI and DEA.



posted on May, 3 2015 @ 04:54 PM
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a reply to: Phoenix

Like this?
www.youtube.com...

I understand that some people don't like it but where does it say that DHS and FEMA are involved in the training? Actually, where does it say any of the "interagency partners" will be involved in training rather than assisting in coordination with local authorities?



posted on May, 3 2015 @ 05:03 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Phage,

That's the problem with ambiguous terms such as " interagency participants"

My definition includes ALL domestic agencies as well as those for foreign deployment.

Your definition of course is rather limited by whatever lense you use to view these activities.

I truly believe my definition will prevail as things unfold.

Seems the Governor of Texas who probably has better access to information than either of us has reason to put his resources on watch.



posted on May, 3 2015 @ 05:06 PM
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a reply to: Phoenix

My definition includes ALL domestic agencies as well as those for foreign deployment.
Your assumption, you mean.


Your definition of course is rather limited by whatever lense you use to view these activities.
I offered no defintion. Are you a mind reader?





Seems the Governor of Texas who probably has better access to information than either of us has reason to put his resources on watch.

Seems the Governor of Texas is a politician who wants to please his constituents more than anything.

The Governor of Utah (who has the same access to information), not so much.
talkingpointsmemo.com...

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posted on May, 3 2015 @ 05:27 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Same ole same ole rhetoricol usage of the language Phage or should I say purposeful misuse.

I said what I meant and meant what I said.

If you take the time to study the access and resources the Governor of Texas has to information you'll find it quite extensive as much of it is produced in-state by Texas based agencies - other words not federal pap regurgitated for ignoramous's


It's just as easy for me to claim Utah Governor is politically pandering to constituents as well and therefore that particular argument goes nowhere.

Abbott did not put his neck out on JH15 just to please a small segment of folks in Texas as you insinuate, he knows something you or I don't know otherwise there is no way he'd act as he did and take heat from naysayers such as found here or in the MSM.



posted on May, 3 2015 @ 05:30 PM
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Same ole same ole rhetoricol usage of the language Phage or should I say purposeful misuse.
What rhetoric? What misuse?



Abbott did not put his neck out on JH15 just to please a small segment of folks in Texas as you insinuate, he knows something you or I don't know otherwise there is no way he'd act as he did and take heat from naysayers such as found here or in the MSM.

I disagree.
Do you really think the "Texas Guard" could stop a military coup?


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posted on May, 3 2015 @ 05:43 PM
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a reply to: Phoenix

Pointing out that your opinion is not a "definition" is not rhetorical, it's a fact. You're choosing to define "inter-agency" how you care to. Without anything to substantiate it beyond your own interpretation.

Both governors are republicans. Both are governors of "hostile" areas. One is ex military and the other is an ex judge. It's reasonable to assume that both have access to the same information.

Abbott hasn't put his state guard there "on watch." He put them there, according to the actual state guard spokesman, to "expedite the flow of information and facilitate communication." The governor's own office downplayed the directive, saying it's simply standard for there to be a liaison between the state and whatever federal groups deploy into the state.



posted on May, 3 2015 @ 05:48 PM
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Don't want to interrupt, but I have to agree here. The Texas State Guard does not serve such a purpose as quelling a coup, or at least any sizable attempt. They can support armed services, as well as assist law enforcement. Natural disasters, uprisings, any number of situations that may require additional support.

Is this move political? Of course. Everything any politician does is to garner political favor. At the most, the TXSG will be able to relay info to the Governor information concerning force movement, any situations that may arise, and other interactions between the public and the different forces involved.



posted on May, 3 2015 @ 05:48 PM
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Has Alex Jones been yelling a lot about this? I bet he has. Veins popping out of his forehead and everything.



posted on May, 3 2015 @ 05:49 PM
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Who said anything about a military coup?

The intense scutiny seems to be about US military and "interagency participation" in a multi-state drill that many be construed to be practice for domestic suppression of political and civilian opposition to as yet un-named events or unpopular political action on the federal government.

Governor of Texas must see something similar from his seat to order his states guard to monitor federal activities, I can't think of a similar situation nor a precedent from the past can you?

This certainly is a subject to sit up and take notice of just for that reason alone.



posted on May, 3 2015 @ 05:49 PM
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a reply to: ItCameFromOuterSpace
Yes.



posted on May, 3 2015 @ 05:51 PM
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a reply to: Phoenix



Who said anything about a military coup?

Didn't watch the video, huh?
talkingpointsmemo.com...



posted on May, 3 2015 @ 06:01 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Yep, but no claims that way from me. My only claim is this operation is directed towards domestic issues rather than foreign.



posted on May, 3 2015 @ 06:03 PM
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My only claim is this operation is directed towards domestic issues rather than foreign.

So you think that the exercise is a cover for US military action against US citizens?

Got it. You don't think it's a military coup.

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posted on May, 3 2015 @ 06:15 PM
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They train for what's possible within a fairly short time frame otherwise training is useless as personel transition out, retire or otherwise become unavailable or tasked to other duties.

The training is fungible.

Have you by chance studied the little item in the middle of the JH15 logo and it's possible meaning?

What is "Mastering the human domain" mean?



posted on May, 3 2015 @ 06:22 PM
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What is "Mastering the human domain" mean?
That they are planning a military coup? I though you said you didn't think that's what it was. Not very sneaky if that's the case.

I don't know what it means but I do know that military slogans can be pretty grandiose. But what's up with that wooden shoe? The Netherlands are going to stomp on the US?

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