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originally posted by: peter vlar
a reply to: AmericanZombie
Then how do you account for all the radiological affects on the civilian populace of these two cities after they were bombed? People don't die from radiation sickness as an after effect of firebombing campaigns such as were undertaken over Tokyo, Fukuyama, Toyama, Fukui, or Tokushima for example.
The type of destruction seen at Hiroshima and Nagasaki is very different as well partially because of the nuclear nature of the explosives but also because the nuclear weapons were detonated above the cities whereas cities that were part of the earlier firebombing campaigns saw destruction that was the result of weapons that detonated when they hit the ground.
2 years after the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, incidence of Leukemia spiked dramatically, peaking 4-6 years after the bombing. This was not seem at cities that were only firebombed. Other cancers in adults saw similarly off the charts increases but not for ~10 years after the bombings.
There is also the issue of after effects presenting in the descendants of those who survived the initial blast. The offspring of those who survived(yet were in utero at the time of the bombings), exhibit symptoms such as small head size, mental disabilities and impaired physical growth. Oddly, those who were exposed to radiation in utero also had a lower increase in cancer rates than those wh were children when exposed to the blast.
The first MOAB used by the US, the GBU-43/B wasn't in service until a dozen years ago. Russia's first FOAB wasn't even tested until 8 years ago so I'm not sure how these types of weapons were utilized 70 years ago when they didn't yet exist.
Instead of imploring someone else to researchit, the claim is yours. Please provide citations supporting your position if you have such a high degree of confidence in its accuracy. It shouldn't be too hard to find evidence of this firebombing right?
When doing the research, I found there is no doubt that a uranium and a plutonium warhead was dropped on and detonated above, Hiroshima and Nagasaki respectively.
originally posted by: buster2010
originally posted by: bobw927
thanks to the generosity of the U.S.
Sorry but that isn't right. Israel stole quite a bit of nuclear tech from America. Seeing how Israel never signed the NPT so it would have been illegal to give or sell them any tech. Netanyahu himself helped to smuggle stolen triggers for nukes during operation pinto.
originally posted by: Drunkenparrot
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: wasaka
Well, Mordecai Vanunu had pictures of the required equipment & a bomb being assembled at Machon 8 & 9 in Dimona.
And there was an underground test in the Negev.
There is the Vela incident as well...
The Vela Incident, also known as the South Atlantic Flash, was an unidentified "double flash" of light detected by an American Vela Hotel satellite on September 22, 1979, near the Prince Edward Islands off Antarctica, which many believe was of nuclear origin.
The most widespread theory among those who believe the flash was of nuclear origin is that it resulted from a joint South African and Israeli nuclear test.
The topic remains highly disputed today.
originally posted by: peter vlar
In 2006, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told Germany's Sat.1 channel: "Iran, openly, explicitly and publicly, threatens to wipe Israel off the map. Can you say that this is the same level, when they are aspiring to have nuclear weapons, as America, France, Israel and Russia?"
This was the first public admission by any member of the Israeli government, past or present, that they did indeed possess nuclear capabilities. They're also less constrained than other Nuclear capable nations as they have refused to take part in the non proliferation treaty which even Iran is a signatory to. Despite all of this and the geopolitical climate they are constantly surrounded by, the only country to ever use nuclear weapons in anger(and unnecessarily so at that ) is the U.S. Despite the constant rhetorical and verbal threats towards them, Israel has demonstrated considerable restraint in the context of the big picture.
originally posted by: PLAYERONE01
I cant believe we are even having this conversation, I mean seriously people shouldnt the OP read:
Is Israel Paranoid enough to unleash it's Nuclear arsenal!
Why is this critical point never brought up with this issue is being discuss in the Main Stream Media?