Putin's Propaganda Machine.

a reply to: dragonridr
no less than putin or obama.
they have the same job and AFAIK are legally equivalent positions.

for example.

en.m.wikipedia.org...

In the United Kingdom, only the monarch has the power to declare war and peace, under the royal prerogative.

and I'm pretty sure you don't think her majesties armed forces are wimpy little girls.

if you are talking propaganda.
the crown interferes with UK media a lot more than happens in the us or russia.

uk media is more akin to Iran or North Korea.

Just look at the history of the black spider memos for evidence of that.
Of course, next you'll be telling us the crown prosecution service and her majesties court service are fictions that have nothing to do with propaganda.

got some bad news for yas, that whole lot is thoroughly corrupt, on a scale to make most African countries look honest.
Which might not actually be that bad.
If they didn't all like fiddling with little kids.

The rest of the world knows it. it's only when you never get independent news on your own country that you don't.

getting back on topic

www.youtube.com...

It's no worse than the Republican propaganda machine, FOX NEWS.

a reply to: babybunnies

It's no worse than the Republican propaganda machine, FOX NEWS.

Well it is, because with FOX the government isn't telling them what to say whereas in Russia the government has total control over most if not all media outlets.

originally posted by: mSparks43
getting back on topic

www.youtube.com...

Well having watched it they make a compelling argument for sending anti tank weapons to Ukraine. They explain that pro Russian forces dont take prisoners and when Ukraines positions are overrun by tanks. They are only left with the option of retreating trough hostile territory or get pounded by armor. Also mentioned how Russia said they could safely retreat and broke their word i was unaware of that part. Russia apparently guaranteed their safety and let it be known. Only to have them massacred trying to leave. With the pro russians killing wounded and this guarantee the hague will be busy with war crimes after this is over.

a reply to: dragonridr

. With the pro russians killing wounded and this guarantee the hague will be busy with war crimes after this is over.

How much you want to bet the west be blamed for those atrocities?

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: dragonridr

. With the pro russians killing wounded and this guarantee the hague will be busy with war crimes after this is over.

How much you want to bet the west be blamed for those atrocities?

He was discussing how chechens have gone to slitting the throats of the wounded. This would be a major war crime. But Chechnya wereasons never known for following rules. Putins nightmare comes later trying to control them when this is over. They are already establishing their own rules in sections they take. And have sent warningS when this is over there going to liberate their people next. And you know the west won't be able to stop themselves from assisting. Even of course though they shouldn't since it will again create more problems later.

a reply to: dragonridr

->Well having watched it they make a compelling argument for sending anti tank weapons to Ukraine.

yeah.
we should send anti tank weapons
to "our friends"
the neo nazis.

or did that bit pass you by?

don't see how you watched it yet though when I still haven't finished.

originally posted by: mSparks43
a reply to: dragonridr

->Well having watched it they make a compelling argument for sending anti tank weapons to Ukraine.

yeah.
we should send anti tank weapons
to "our friends"
the neo nazis.

or did that bit pass you by?

don't see how you watched it yet though when I still haven't finished.

You better watch it again they discuss the neo nazis in Russia. SaId there is a minimal number in Ukraine in fact France had more. Did you believe they were supporting RussiaS idea of fascists because they didn't . And yes they recommendoing the US provide Anti tank Weapons To Ukraine. It negates the advantage of Russian yanks on the front lines.

a reply to: dragonridr

nope. pretty sure that was eastern ukraine swat teams.
the one who posted facebook video of him chopping a puppies head of and eating it. with his Bro having the nazis symbol tat.
west hasn't really made a huge secret of those are the people they are funding.
agree they are a small percentage.
they are also the ones in charge.

re nazis in eastern ukraine.
m.huffpost.com...

originally posted by: mSparks43
a reply to: dragonridr

nope. pretty sure that was eastern ukraine swat teams.
the one who posted facebook video of him chopping a puppies head of and eating it. with his Bro having the nazis symbol tat.
west hasn't really made a huge secret of those are the people they are funding.
agree they are a small percentage.
they are also the ones in charge.

Swat Was With Republic Of luhansk. He was a pro Russian in fact the next part mentions how Purina had to send in Chechnya to get these neo Nazis under control. Russia sent neo nazis onto Ukraine to scare the locals and lost control of them.And then the chechems started making examples of people by cutting out their hearts. You should watch again at 23 min mark forward. This video discussesmall the horoscope inflicted by Russian neo Nazis volunteering in Ukraine. Funny you thought this video was pro russian that's hilarious.

PS you really helped prove the point that Putin needs to be stopped thanks for the help.lol

a reply to: dragonridr
Luhansk (Ukrainian: Луга́нськ, IPA: [ɫuˈɦɑnʲsʲk]) or Lugansk (Russian: Луга́нск; IPA: [lʊˈgansk]), formerly known as Voroshilovgrad, is the administrative center of Luhansk Oblast in easternmost Ukraine.

As for the Chechnyans going all inglorious bastards.

You support perpetuating the war, but don't have the stomach for what happens during war.

There goes that doublethink in your head again.

originally posted by: mSparks43
a reply to: dragonridr
Luhansk (Ukrainian: Луга́нськ, IPA: [ɫuˈɦɑnʲsʲk]) or Lugansk (Russian: Луга́нск; IPA: [lʊˈgansk]), formerly known as Voroshilovgrad, is the administrative center of Luhansk Oblast in easternmost Ukraine.

As for the Chechnyans going all inglorious bastards.

You support perpetuating the war, but don't have the stomach for what happens during war.

There goes that doublethink in your head again.

you are hilarious you see Russian nazis went into Ukraine and Put in lost control of them. Than chechems are sent to control the Nazis And So ME how You Still Defend that. Putin should be tried for the casualties and the war crimes he's created. The only bright note is he's creating his own enemies in Russia don't think that you can dance with the devil without paying dues.

If Russia would just get out of Ukraine where they don't belong this would be over already all the casualties rest squarely on Putin.

a reply to: dragonridr

Russian neo nazis got kicked out of russia, and went to the ukraine where they got lots of funding from the west

Then the Chenyans went inglorious bastard on them, cut out their hearts and used it as a volleyball.

You got a problem with that?

You know.
these guys
www.youtube.com...

The ones that all just got killed. Check the flags....

originally posted by: mSparks43
a reply to: dragonridr

Russian neo nazis got kicked out of russia, and went to the ukraine where they got lots of funding from the west

Then the Chenyans went inglorious bastard on them, cut out their hearts and used it as a volleyball.

You got a problem with that?

Nope sent by Putin he funds neo nazis all over europe. He is a huge supporter of fascist and they have his support even in Russia. Dies it shock you that Putin has followed Hitler in almost every move and using fascist to take over. If you truly against Nazis I advise you stop supporting Putin before it's to late.

a reply to: dragonridr

This
www.youtube.com...

Is definitely the Eastern Ukrainian flag
right next to the nazi symbol

driving round shooting civis.

The same symbols present during most of the rallies supporting the EU that kicked all this off.
The same symbol that noise mc decided to don that got him labeled a traiter to russia

originally posted by: mSparks43
a reply to: dragonridr

This
www.youtube.com...

Is definitely the Eastern Ukrainian flag
right next to the nazi symbol

driving round shooting civis.

Has nothing to do with Putin and his support of Fascism. And the Azov battalion is one group and can you blame ukraine? Azov was a group started by victor and financed by Putin that turned on him ooops. Wait until the others do the same as I said play with fire you will get burned. Putin is going to learn as all these Nazis and chechems return home.

a reply to: mSparks43

You do know that eastern Ukraine is the part controlled by the separatists right? Specifically Luhansk and Donetsk.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

your are missing the important facts

for example

almost 26" into that video
"It's interesting, that during the last election, the right got less than 5% of the vote"

That was the election that made Viktor Yanukovic president.
The courts then declared that vote corrupt
And replaced the entire government with people tied to neo nazi groups.