Putin's Propaganda Machine.

a reply to: Greathouse

Don't worry - - the very same govt that you're standing up for. . . Has:


Sold you Out!



LoL - - you think your govt cares about you? You think Obama will protect you?

He Sold You Out!


May come off as harsh but you were flushed down the toilet. Name a single thing they're doing FOR YOU. . .

a reply to: AtomicBullet

So I guess you don't want to talk about RT articles having contradicting statements. Or RT implying (read that word again implying) that the whole world is calling for Yarosh's arrest. When all that happened is Interpol agreed to honor a Russian warrant.

originally posted by: AtomicBullet
a reply to: Greathouse

Don't worry - - the very same govt that you're standing up for. . . Has:


Sold you Out!



LoL - - you think your govt cares about you? You think Obama will protect you?

He Sold You Out!


May come off as harsh but you were flushed down the toilet. Name a single thing they're doing FOR YOU. . .

Well I agree but still doesn't make it right want Putin is doing in Ukraine. But at least one thing is good if Obama wasn't in office. Another president would already have US Troops Fighting IN Ukraine. OBAMA AT LEAST DOESN'T VA ABOUT WHAT HAPPEN ND THERE. SO NOT ALL BAD.

a reply to: dragonridr

which particular laws are you interested in?
the ones that put you in prison

or

the ones that put you six feet under?

or

the ones about the presence of an internationally wanted criminal being allowed to participate in government and military affairs. that give putin the international legal right if not obligation
to roll his tanks all the way to kiev.

originally posted by: mSparks43
a reply to: dragonridr

which particular laws are you interested in?
the ones that put you in prison

or

the ones that put you six feet under?

or

the ones about the presence of an internationally wanted criminal being allowed to participate in government and military affairs. that give putin the international legal right if not obligation
to roll his tanks all the way to kiev.

You DO Know WHAT A Red Notice Is Don't you?? It basically means Russia convicted him of a crime in a Moscow court. Interpol is required to issue a red notice. Russia uses this all the time to go after people. It means nothing until he gets in front of an international court. In fact interpol has made no request for Ukraine to turn him over. Why simple Russia does this all the time everyone is aware of it and there convictions absentia. Because russia is a member they have to abide by the courts but that don't have to actively pursue him. And if they did get him that's when a hearing will occur. Russia Claimed He Was Trying Incite chechems to terrorism in side Russia. Hardly a crime when Russia Is Invading His country. Here's the funny part ukraine has requested victor yunuKoyvch to get a red letter. He's listed to on interpol. Think the Russians will hand him over??

www.interpol.int...

a reply to: AtomicBullet

This thread needs to be renamed:

"America's Propaganda Machine"

Why because the truth hurts?

a reply to: dragonridr

so you're not really that interested in the laws that put you six feet under.

or cause a 215% rise in Jewish people fleeing a country.

mind if I ask bluntly if you are into that kind of thing?

->Russia Claimed He Was Trying Incite chechems to terrorism in side Russia.

well
afaik
yarosh was filmed telling ukranians just before the coup that putin is a jew that must die.

now it seems the Americans are giving him guns.

pretty sure this ends badly.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h it's slightly ironic Vice news talking about propaganda machines, when the hipster bible is part of one of the biggest propaganda machines on earth

Vice Media, the multi-platform purveyor of music, fashion and quixotic journalism from international trouble spots, has sold a 5% stake to Rupert Murdoch's 21st Century Fox.

www.theguardian.com...

a reply to: woodwardjnr

Since when does having 5% of a company give you control of that company? Shane Smith and crew still control an 85% stake in the company. I don't think Fox or A&E are going to force VICE to do anything they don't want.

ETA: Furthermore if having 5% of your company being owned by an independent company makes you propaganda then surely being 100% owned by the state makes you propaganda. And that's not even considering the bigger picture. What does it say when close to 100% of news outlets in your country are 100% owned by the state?

a reply to: woodwardjnr

propaganda machines, when the hipster bible is part of one of the biggest propaganda machines on earth

So then I guess these investors are into propaganda also...

The youth digital media brand said on Thursday that the new investment, $250m each from Silicon Valley firm Technology Crossover Ventures and US cable broadcaster A+E Networks, valued the company at more than $2.5bn.

www.theguardian.com...

Vice Media, the multi-platform purveyor of music, fashion and quixotic journalism from international trouble spots, has sold a 5% stake to Rupert Murdoch's 21st Century Fox.

From the same article from above...

Vice added that it remained independently controlled and operated by its senior management, led by co-founder and chief executive Shane Smith, after its latest minority investor deals.

www.theguardian.com...

So 5% is nothing that gives Murdoch any say as to how VICE is run, nor is he telling them what stories they can run. But keep believing they are propaganda...because those who spew propaganda don't report both sides of a story.

It goes against the propaganda code of ethics.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

What does it say when close to 100% of news outlets in your country are 100% owned by the state?

Добро пожаловать в Россию.

Welcome to Russia.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

a few seconds fact checking shows that to be totally false.

a reply to: mSparks43

a few seconds fact checking shows that to be totally false.

Well then, I have a few seconds show it to be false?

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

en.m.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: mSparks43

So Russia has one of the worst track records when it comes to freedom of press and things are even worse in Crimea? Isn't that kind of proving what we're saying about Russian media being controlled by the state?

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: mSparks43

So Russia has one of the worst track records when it comes to freedom of press and things are even worse in Crimea? Isn't that kind of proving what we're saying about Russian media being controlled by the state?

Not to mention that was last year now they are down to 1 independent news outlet in the entire country. And they had there offices raided and under investigation under the new law for terrorism. In other words there is no independent media left in Russia.

a reply to: dragonridr
well.
there's a lot of things you could complain about. but that really doesn't seem to be one of them.

they rely on newspapers. since not even half the population is online. and there's a lot more freedom there than anything I've seen in the west.
they don't even have any form of active censorship

admit its a bit weird when you can turn of the tele at 8am and see hardcore porn right next to the children's channels. and quite a few of the prudes don't like it.

perhaps you could give me an example of what you consider independent media.

is there any such thing as a media outlet without an agenda?

BBC?

and anyway.
let's at least compare that with UK media licencing.

what does it say when 100% of your media is 100% state controlled. (including the internet)
by a monarch none the less.