And what's the Real Story?

So, I'm Tetra50. I've been here a while, written a few threads, and realized (like many) that the more I thought I knew, the less I really knew….. Having said that, I am well intentioned. As many of us are. There's that saying about the path to hell being clothed in the best of intentions….and yes, I agree that may be my plight, indeed, even as I try to do the opposite. This is the thing, per my knowlege of existence in this life…..there is certain technology out there today which makes it impossible to know what is "real," and thereby, changes the face of what reality is altogether. And this fact, then, changes everything then, thereabouts. And that's what this thread is really about.
For instance, I once knew a military man who explained to me that everything since Charlemaigne was predicated: planned, scripted, written out and played like a movie script. Ostensibly, he wanted me to talk about this one day, so it would be obvious the "simulated" existence we lived within. Many of us reading and writing here know about this, have explored what this may mean to the validity of our experience and existence and "judgement" or discernment, through that experience filter…..for this is what your memories become, once you realize that this may be the sum total of your discernment and memory….just another experience filter, introduced to your mind, to manipulated your response, for with a window into your mind, or even the relativity of experiencing life, all things possible to manipulate you by, knowing what would then become important to you….the character of being human….

And this, really, is the summation of my experience and what may save us all from certain doom, given what I've currently described: that "they" who program and control in our current simulation know already what we're really made of, what we'll fight for, hope for, try to save each other for….For God's sake this is what I've waited for in knowing what I'm suffering for, really ,and hope to leave you with today, in my epiphanous moment, when it all made sense for just a second.

Because that's how it happens, once you've been down that rabbit hole, I think. You wonder, constantly, what's happening to us all, and it all seems so evil, once knowing our motivations based on our physical needs, and munipulating us by that afterwords. Having lived through that for many years, without detailing it here, for I wouldn't wish to make it more real for anyone other than me, I search, daily, for the answering to the possible suffering. What if it's simply to put you under a stress to make your character become what it wouldn't have been pushed to otherwise?

That's how crap happens in life, after all, from a purely scientific example: stress, read: pressure, makes the physical reality respond with the next best thing. You put pressure and pain on my left side, and my response can be nothing other than the right becoming stronger, until it can dominate and survive what the left is going through. That's my science. I realize this isn't so uber attractive for the physics guys, but it may turn out to be just that simple.

So, why would anyone be interested in faking mass historical acts, religions, and seeing where that took human beings? I can think of many reasons, perhaps you can, too. That's really what this thread is about.

tp://www.historyorb.com/events/date/1582
en.wikipedia.org...
www.damninteresting.com...
www.ancientdestructions.com...
(last Piri Reis map, 1513, or 1532?)
www.uwgb.edu...

Map found in Constantinople. Also, from "Damned Interesting," link:

In 1582, the Gregorian calendar we still use today was introduced by Pope Gregory XIII to replace the outdated Julian calendar which had been implemented in 45 BC. The Gregorian calendar was designed to correct for a ten-day discrepancy caused by the fact that the Julian year was 10.8 minutes too long. But by Heribert Illig's math, the 1,627 years which had passed since the Julian calendar started should have accrued a thirteen-day discrepancy... a ten-day error would have only taken 1,257 years.
So Illig and his group went hunting for other gaps in history, and found a few... for example, a gap of building in Constantinople (558 AD - 908 AD) and a gap in the doctrine of faith, especially the gap in the evolution of theory and meaning of purgatory (600 AD until ca. 1100). From all of this data, they have become convinced that at some time, the calendar year was increased by 297 years without the corresponding passage of time.
In, 1582, when Pope Gregory XVII, introduced the Gregorian calendar, dropping the Julian calendar, because the Gregorian calendar was thought to be a more accurate "solar" calendar detailing the earth's rotation around the sun (precession?), so many days would be "lost," over time.


Time:

Luckily the detected difference is somewhere around .0001% so I don't think we'll be rewriting history even if their observation is confirmed.
So the the Earth is "around" 4,500,000,000 years old and the difference is "around" .0001%? 0.00013% of 4,500,000,000 years is 6000 years! That can't be a coincidence! Earth is 6000 years old!
science.slashdot.org...

There's quite a bit of information packed in here, about time, relativity, etc. and most importantly, "history." What I'm trying to do is challenge your perception of History in general…..and then we'll discuss, I hope, what that may mean for what your personal story adds up to…..
tetra50

www.damninteresting.com...

This is my first link worth exploring for this issue. Enjoy the attendant thought processes…..or have your world unhinged…..LOL

Oh, and by the way, I'm perfectly prepared to be labeled crazy. LOL
Tis why I'm a here. Someone's gotta have the dialogue.

Somewhere in the past, no real clue to when, this planet's true history was lost, by effort or chance. We have seen evidence everywhere from Puma punku to Easter island to Egypt and on and on. By sheer numbers alone, the earth is much older than some say and I believe there are those whom want to keep us ignorant of the truth. Be it power, knowledge of major significance, control, religious limitations or something else. I do not buy the script is set theory, time is linear and why bother reading the book if you know it already. Humans have gazed and dreamed...wondered why since the first eye opened and became self aware. There is, without doubt entities beyond our comprehension...they have all of the answers simple humans can ask....As a simple human myself, I have questions some call "absolute nuts", but who knows the answer to these, I would love to meet them...

a reply to: teslahowitzer

Hi, telsahowitzer: I must admit, having processed your name, I was adverse to answering your missive. But, it wasn't prospective nor representative of your name, and I mention this, for I think it important, to what we are discussing, after all…..

Humans have gazed and dreamed...wondered why since the first eye opened and became self aware.

Yes, they, we, have. And what then did happen, is what this thread challenges to ask….And then what would that mean to all we thought we "knew," "accepted…." This, to me, is the quintessential analuysis of this site, in a nutshell, if such a thing is even possible, and I thank it for begging this question everyday, that we might surpass it…

And I hope by having this discussion here, we might have come somewhat closer to doing that, and rising above the suffering this life has become for all of us, to something else, totally different…
tetra50
p.s. thanks for your participation and reading of my thread.

a reply to: tetra50

This reply is for Darksea13, for since months ago you asked me those cogent questions and I tried to put my views in some cogent retrospect, I have wondered after you, and your journey down this rabbit hole. For I think it my job, somehow, to escort the rest of us throught terrtitory I've already suffered and done with, if nothing else, so that we can dispense with that, and welcome better times…..
tetra

a reply to: tetra50 I Hope all is good in your life...your word choices are readable 2 ways. I found a kitten not long ago, all by itself, with no trace of any other cat around. I took it home, and take really good care of it. I watch the little furball grow and expand its experience of the small world around it and interestingly enough, amazed at this creature's seeming automatic natural abilities. it knows nothing of the real world beyond my country road. If Bailey (kitten's name) was exposed to aircraft or a level of tech, its real understanding would be very limited....same with us humans toe to toe with an advanced being. Our limits are many, we know but a small amount about our world and beyond, our history and our reason for existence is almost zero understanding. As much as I dislike the song by Kansas..dust in the wind, it basically could be all there is to it, but I think there is more...much more, and I am not talking religion. I cant quite explain this in a comprehensive way, but there is more to the human story than we are led to believe...If all of this is scripted....fire the writer!!!

Ah, the new thread... I will process (meaning I will look at the posted video/articles after work) but wanted to stick my digital foot in the simulated door.

One thing that jumped outta my own head (or programmed simulacra) is the epiphany Phil Dick, the sci-fi author, had... that we were living a "fake history" and that the Roman Empire never ended ... he called our present "overlay" reality the Black Iron Prison and went all Gnostic Christian and thought a true reality was attempting to break through and reach us trapped humans ... a hack meant to bring the prison program down and return us to a real, free state.

The fact he had a brain tumor either explains it... or it doesn't... but I have sure felt the same way about a possible non real reality... and I never had an abduction experience (that I remember) to engender that feeling... just a niggling almost memory that something isn't as it should be. I usually ascribe it to human stupidity... but some of the weirdness doesn't seem tied to humans.. .so...?

Hi WhiteKnight: Though you messaged me privately that my link wasn't working, I so appreciate that, and please let me know if this repair doesn't work, either. It turns out this is a pretty well known theory, as sch strabge theories go….
And another word….I have a keyboard crrently experiencing certain letter wierdness, so pardon my spelling. It isn't that I don't know how, bt that I cannot afford ore profficient technology….

LINK

originally posted by: Baddogma
Ah, the new thread... I will process (meaning I will look at the posted video/articles after work) but wanted to stick my digital foot in the simulated door.

One thing that jumped outta my own head (or programmed simulacra) is the epiphany Phil Dick, the sci-fi author, had... that we were living a "fake history" and that the Roman Empire never ended ... he called our present "overlay" reality the Black Iron Prison and went all Gnostic Christian and thought a true reality was attempting to break through and reach us trapped humans ... a hack meant to bring the prison program down and return us to a real, free state.

The fact he had a brain tumor either explains it... or it doesn't... but I have sure felt the same way about a possible non real reality... and I never had an abduction experience (that I remember) to engender that feeling... just a niggling almost memory that something isn't as it should be. I usually ascribe it to human stupidity... but some of the weirdness doesn't seem tied to humans.. .so...?

Hey Baddoga: In case you didn't see my last post, my keyboard is experiencing probles with certain letters: you will notice them missing, for the most part, when they obviously should be there. So pardon y apparent lack of spelling proficiency in the mean tie of my being able to afford a new keyboard.

So: One of the things that most fascinates me about your presence on these threads I've written about possible tie/history anomalies, is that I've parteken in your threads about possible UFO experiences, and I think there is a correlation in what I propose, and UFO experiences, though I'm not so interested in concentrating on that too soon in the thread, for what I propose here has many, varied icmv ,plications beyond UFO experiences. Seen through the lens I am presenting here, UFO experiences are another anoaly in an anaalous seeing inverse as its not obeying the laws we've been led to believe are "law," after all.

Such is my argument, and yes, it is muich like the illustrious Philip K. Dick's. But not only that, there is a whole body of "science fiction" work, which I believe could represent an alternative reality, that perhaps even happened already, and was written about in order to explain away the anamalous memories of those left over who perhaps remembered one day…..

Looking forward to more of your observations.
tet

Wiki: BurroughsThe Burroughs Corp.

originally posted by: teslahowitzer
a reply to: tetra50 I Hope all is good in your life...your word choices are readable 2 ways. I found a kitten not long ago, all by itself, with no trace of any other cat around. I took it home, and take really good care of it. I watch the little furball grow and expand its experience of the small world around it and interestingly enough, amazed at this creature's seeming automatic natural abilities. it knows nothing of the real world beyond my country road. If Bailey (kitten's name) was exposed to aircraft or a level of tech, its real understanding would be very limited....same with us humans toe to toe with an advanced being. Our limits are many, we know but a small amount about our world and beyond, our history and our reason for existence is almost zero understanding. As much as I dislike the song by Kansas..dust in the wind, it basically could be all there is to it, but I think there is more...much more, and I am not talking religion. I cant quite explain this in a comprehensive way, but there is more to the human story than we are led to believe...If all of this is scripted....fire the writer!!!

Hey teslaandhowitzer: I have to say, that it may appear my word choices represent a dality, when I, in fact, ean none. And I am missing a U and an M in that sentence. I am trying to be clear. You have hit on here, something that I think quite important to this whole discussion, and that is that our languages seem to phoenetically break down to the exact opposite meaning of our more complicated, ascribed meanings of words in dictionaries, giving our communication efforts quite a "coded" appearance, when nothing like that may be intended….and in fact, when reading it that way, when you are trying to say one thing within the constraints of a language, it may seem pheonetically you are saying something diametrically opposed, in fact…..

One wonders, in the end, if that was designed that way, or was brought into line later on…..like much of what I propose in this thread….for it often appears, in my estimation, that it "should" be this way, when I think popularization of language, and assimilation and street slang issues may be a way of simply making it SEEM this way, when it was never really this way, originally.

But this illustrates your point conveniently and in a very good way, I think. And this is the essence of what we are dealing with, here, and what may have taken place at certain points in history, allowing for going backwards and supplanting certain history with other, scripted history.

I am aware of a company called the Burroughs Corporation, for instance. If anyone is interested in researching this corp., it began as an adding machine company in St. Louis, MO in the late 1800s. By Viet Nam, they were partbered with Bell Labs and IBM to launch satellites dealing with advanced weaponry and missle capability of that time. This seems to be a certain, specific time when something may have gone awry historically. Perhaps simulation via quantum computing and entanglement was introduced…..and perhaps it was only the ability to mass produce a "faked, scripted" historical construct that served as supplanted history. Who knows? The questions, obviously, are quire riveting. Fast forward to today, and via quantum entanglement and the quantum walk of plants in their photosynthesis, we now would have "science" to explain and back up what began as just a scripted, simulated "reality…." while no one knew the difference, in between.

Thanks, again, for your participation.
tetra

originally posted by: tetra50
This is the thing, per my knowlege of existence in this life…..there is certain technology out there today which makes it impossible to know what is "real," and thereby, changes the face of what reality is altogether

What would that technology be?

originally posted by: tetra50
For instance, I once knew a military man who explained to me that everything since Charlemaigne was predicated: planned, scripted, written out and played like a movie script.

Unless that guy is a general or something, the fact he his a military man is meaningless. People in the military know as much about the world and history than the average joe. It looks that this guy is simply a fan of conspiracy theories. Who knows he could even be on ATS?

Have you ask him if this was an opinion based on things he learned from youtube or if it was an informed claim because he can access top secret info about how a secret cabal rules the world (lol)

The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic. The truth is, that it is not the Jewish banking conspiracy or the grey aliens or the 12 foot reptiloids from another dimension that are in control. The truth is more frightening, nobody is in control. The world is rudderless.

Yes, there is a conspiracy, in fact there are a great number of conspiracies that are all tripping each other up. And all of those conspiracies are run by paranoid fantasists and ham-fisted clowns.

-Alan Moore

a reply to: tetra50

I agree. I think that everything has been planned since at least the Renaissance when the Medici got one of theirs into the papacy (queue the war of the 3 popes) and controlled the money in Florence. The whole NWO plan has been kicked into high gear since the end of WWII I believe, judging by how quickly things have been progressing since that time. idk what to think, really, but it's interesting to consider nonetheless.

a reply to: JUhrman
Yes, the man was a four star general.
As far as your Alan Moore quote, I have to say that anyone familiar with my usual p.o.v. or thread writing would agree there is absolutely nothing comforting about any of my theories.

originally posted by: tetra50
a reply to: JUhrman
Yes, the man was a four star general.
As far as your Alan Moore quote, I have to say that anyone familiar with my usual p.o.v. or thread writing would agree there is absolutely nothing comforting about any of my theories.

So what is the technology you mentioned? Thank you

a reply to: JUhrman

Here is a thread I would refer you to in answer to that question, for starters: www.abovetopsecret.com...