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MENSA being a Secret Society

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posted on Dec, 21 2004 @ 05:41 PM
It's definetly an exclusive club and what would the smartest people in the world think about at a gathering? It's likely that they have some involvement in something, membership is alienating by definition.....

Just a thought to toss out there.

posted on Dec, 21 2004 @ 05:45 PM
Another thought, I could be a Mensa member, it's not that exclusive, this seems more like Chit Chat. No secret here.

posted on Dec, 21 2004 @ 10:46 PM
Mensa is highly exclusive. Only two percent of the population can join. Still, that is a lot of people given the world population, but any group that excludes ninety-eight percent of the population can rightfully be called exclusive.

Mensa is really an umbrella group for myriad special-interest groups. Those are regularly advertised and if there are any that are secret, they are not officially sanctioned by Mensa. Furthermore, IQ is largely a measure of native intelligence and while it is a very good predictor of academic success, it says very little else about a person.

American Mensa

posted on Dec, 21 2004 @ 10:58 PM
For anyone curious as to what kind of questions are on the MENSA test here is an sample of what to expect I'm sure there are some here on ATS that are or could be members of MENSA

Mensa tests smarts

Mensa holds testing days in October, but will administer its test to any willing takers year-round. To take Mensa's test, contact Judy Keating at 441-7058.

Here are the kinds of questions you will encounter:

1. What number, plus 13, is equal to one-fourth of 116?

2. Start with the number of U.S. senators, subtract the number of states, then multiply by the number of seconds in five minutes. What do you get?

3. Can you think of an American tree whose name contains all five vowels?

4. A well-known saying appears below in high-flown language. Can you restore it to its original form?

5. It is all but impossible -- indeed, very difficult -- to attempt to instruct a superannuated canine in the art of acquiring hithertofore unknown stunts or activities.

6. What is the 11-letter word that all smart people spell incorrectly?

7. What royal word in the plural becomes singular when you add one letter?

8. Priscilla and Paul went shopping for a new sofa. They found one for $500 at a special sale. It had been reduced 50 percent and then 20 percent. What did it cost before the sale?

9. The busy chemist left a message for his new assistant: "Try -40 degrees." The assistant was puzzled. Did he mean centigrade or Fahrenheit?

10. What one three-letter word inserted in the blank below will create two new words from those on either side?
Door _________ Ace

11. Unscramble the letters below to make one word.
New Door

(Taken from


[edit on 21/12/2004 by Sauron]

posted on Dec, 21 2004 @ 10:59 PM
Answers to the questions from above supposedly

1 ... 16
2.......15,000 (100-50 = 50; 50 x 300 = 15,000)
4........You can't teach an old dog new tricks.
6........Princes. (becomes Princess)
7........$1,250 (One-half of $1,250 is $625. Twenty percent off $625 leaves $500.)
8........The question is irrelevant: -40 degrees is the same temperature on either scale.
10.....One word.

(Taken from


there seem to be an answer missing I think for # 4

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posted on Dec, 21 2004 @ 11:14 PM
(In my awareness) no MENSA organization in the world has any political or social agenda, it's just a forum for exchange and communication between people who come from all walks of life. The common condition is they have decided to sit a standardized IQ test and apply for membership. Such a self-selecting group points more to members' needs for affiliation than to some greater cause.

I agree with Mr Philpott - 2% is a lot of people. The Mensa entry IQ is just 130. Quite a few ATS members would be eligible but the threads about "My IQ is bigger than your IQ" are boring and so is MENSA.

For a chuckle have a look at these "secret societies" instead:

High Potential Society (IQ 132+)

Intertel (top 1% of IQs):

The Cerebrals Society (top 0.3% of IQs):

IQuadrivium Society (top 0.1% of IQs): *****

The Mega Society (top one in a million IQs)

The Giga Society (a parody of the above?) (1 out of 1 billion)
No, it's not a joke, or maybe it is. Both the name of the society and its journal (Nemesis) poke fun at the Mega Society (whose journal name is Noesis). Hard to believe a society with such strict requirement could get off the ground (assuming world population 7 billion, that's 7 people). Paul Cooijmans of the Netherlands can claim credit. The main goal is "to honor the efforts of the very highest scorers, who are of great importance to the development of ultra-high-ceiling tests for mental abilities. A secondary goal is to make members of other IQ societies realize they're not all that, although they may think they are." Paul founded this unlikely society in 1996 and has created an admissions test called the "Test for Genius" (TFG, short and long form). The short form is a 42-item test (it used to have 45 items, but Paul has discarded 3 problems). The current norming of the short form (4th) places the one-in-a-billion level at about 34 correct out of 42. Paul estimates the ceiling of his test to be at an astronomical one-in-100 billion (which would identify the smartest person who ever lived). Around June of 1999, Scott B. Durgin qualified for the Giga Society. In November 1999, Thomas R.A. Wolf of Munich, Germany qualified. Both got in via the Numbers subtest of the TFG (long form).

and an amazing bit of research into the short and bloody history of High IQ societies including 17 active ones and a myriad of defunct ones:

***** 5-star rating for assembling some serious work on the purpose of research into intelligence.

Not so secret any more.

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