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Parents Share 5-Year-Old Son’s Transgender Journey

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posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 09:05 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt's daughter has been insisting she was a boy since she could talk. She even wears tuxedo's to their red-carpet events. I too, believe it's the right thing to do. I would go with the child's natural flow, but isn't also likely that the onset of puberty will be the determining factor? As a parent, I would wait until then to offer any real input. Gender confusion is probably problematic for both child and parents. (Although the Jolie-Pitt child doesn't seem confused in the least.) But still, to avoid any possible traumatization, I would let the child determine what's right for them.




posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 09:06 PM
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Listen I dont want to stoop to your level, so Ill refrain from lashing out. Children go through many phases, it continues through adulthood. To even embrace this idea before the child matures and perform any kind of permanent "solution" is utterly abominable and absurd. Imo you should be ashamed and check into the closest ward. Im serious, what is being proposed is ludicrous. reply to: Deaf Alien


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posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 09:07 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: WarminIndy

Good thing that you edited your post. You had to go there but it's ok.

Anyway I find it curious that you and others have not replied to Cuervo's post. Very curious indeed.


Cuervo's post as I read it has nothing to do with gender identity at 2 or 4 years old.



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 09:07 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: infolurker

Care to elaborate on why you think this is insane and that they are nuts?


At that age, I was under the impression that every chick on earth had cooties and didn't want em near me.

Now Mike loves the ladies.

Parents jumped the gun? Possibly.



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 09:11 PM
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Listen I dont want to stoop to your level


My level? What level is that?



Imo you should be ashamed and check into the closest ward. Im serious, what is being proposed is ludicrous.


No you should be ashamed of yourself. Many transgender children have committed suicide later in life because their parents wouldn't let them be who they are (gender identity not some silly thing like super hero and giraffee).



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 09:12 PM
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I appreciate your honesty. I feel your emotion as best I can, but it is admittedly foreign to me. My concern is that not all that cry wolf...have seen a wolf...your response is level and based upon experience I do not have. I hope I have not been unduly rude or disrespectful. reply to: Cuervo



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 09:16 PM
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Parents jumped the gun? Possibly.


Possibly. As the article has stated, the parents have been studying this for a long time and have gone to doctors and have been struggling with this. The made the decision that is best for their child. It is not like all of sudden when she said she's a boy they went oh ok!!! Sure! Go ahead be that way!



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 09:18 PM
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You seem to lack the same open mindedness you demand of others. A child of2-6 is not so much a sexual being, having raised 4 and been around numerous Transgender, I feel I have some experience in the matter. Now I am done debating with you as you cannot even acknowledge others experience on the matter and actually engage in discourse. reply to: Deaf Alien



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 09:21 PM
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Well said..and the point I apparently couldnt make. reply to: ladyinwaiting



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 09:23 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

I think I remember telling my mom and friends that I hated girls back in those days as well... Man was I wrong... Can't get enough of em now.

Luckily Ma didn't take my word on it and have the belino removed - I'd have no reason to live!



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 09:24 PM
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Now I am done debating with you as you cannot even acknowledge others experience on the matter and actually engage in discourse.


I am not dismissing your and others experiences. If I am not engaging in discourse then what am I doing then?

Yes I am open minded. I do listen to you and others. What people do not understand is how risky it is (read the article) to not allow children be who they are (gender wise). It takes time and study and decision (read the article). It is not like the parents allowed their child to be who she is immediately. As I have said they consulted with doctors and therapists and studied on this for a long time.
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posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 09:25 PM
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originally posted by: WarminIndy
It's called Y Chromosome.

Hardwired into the MALE.

Hardwired...Y....

Geesh, easy genetics lesson.

Yes, a genetics lesson. Like this one:
XXY people exist.
XYY people exist.
There are others even stranger.
Nature is not quite so black & white as you seem to believe.



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 09:26 PM
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originally posted by: BlueJacket
I appreciate your honesty. I feel your emotion as best I can, but it is admittedly foreign to me. My concern is that not all that cry wolf...have seen a wolf...your response is level and based upon experience I do not have. I hope I have not been unduly rude or disrespectful. reply to: Cuervo



It's more or less just a matter of understanding the amount of research and medical science that's behind it and not resorting to silly analogies (it happens nearly every time).

There's nothing that is to be done medically to treat a dysphoric child until they hit puberty so treating a child how they want to be treated in regards to their insistence that their body is not correct is the safest way to do it. Once they hit puberty, they can decide what they need to do and, by then, there will be no doubt.

So seeing parents call their little Timmy "she" or their little Sarah "he" isn't something to get worked up about. If it's just a phase, it will be a funny story to tell their future dates. But it's usually the real deal and, in that case, you can save that child years of trauma by simply going with the flow and going to therapy for a while.

It's a biological imperative to take a child seriously if they look like they are choking or complaining of other symptoms. This is no different. Forcing your child into suppression can literally kill them.



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 09:33 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

What about transracial people? People born into the wrong colored body? Racial identity?
I mean, the dna doesn't matter, right?
Transracialism: Coming Soon Near You!



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 09:37 PM
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What about transracial people? People born into the wrong colored body? Racial identity?
I mean, the dna doesn't matter, right?
Transracialism: Coming Soon Near You!


LOL thanks for the laugh.

There are studies that DNA does determine gender identity.

As to the transracial people? Maybe they were reincarnated from different races? LOL Now that's for another thread.



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 09:44 PM
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Duly noted. I appreciate your response and will consider your opinion moving forward.. I feel as though I have learned something from you, thank you. reply to: Cuervo



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 10:35 PM
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originally posted by: infolurker

This is insane. Either these parents are looking for their 15 seconds of fame or they are truly nuts and drinking the psycho-babble Kool-Aid.


No, you're just ignorant.

That means "lack of knowledge" BTW.



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 10:36 PM
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I haven't noticed anyone stating the obvious ...

Is this putting the child first? It seems more like an extreme form of pageanting. Of course there will be sponsers and a book deal. Who do you think they'll get yo play the parents in the lifetime movie?

I don't want to make light of child abuse but, this seems like it could be twisted into child abuse with the right play on words.



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 10:40 PM
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originally posted by: WarminIndy

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: WarminIndy



Geesh, easy genetics lesson.


Yes it's easy. I suggest that you study more.


XY = male

XX = female


You are generations behind.

You might wanna go for an "update".



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 10:43 PM
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originally posted by: Iamthatbish
I haven't noticed anyone stating the obvious ...

Is this putting the child first?


Actually, YES!

It is putting the child first.



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