Disclosure of the Moon Landing Hoax: Part 2

a reply to: turbonium1

They are threatening him with legal action because he lied to them, accuses them of fraud and intends to make money out of the resulting footage.

Your subjective interpretations provide no evidence that they did not walk on the moon. I look forward to you presenting that.

originally posted by: choos

originally posted by: turbonium1
Threatening to sue Sibrel, and threatening to kill Sibrel , was really just to get Sibrel to leave the house faster.

It makes perfect sense...


Not.

some americans wont ask, they will just get their guns..

Yes, they are called nut-jobs. They will shoot someone who is trying to leave their property, and afterwards, they explain to the police how they shot trespassers who refused to leave their property.

For some reason, nobody buys that as an excuse for blasting someone's head off, and they end up guilty of first-degree murder. Perhaps if they didn't kill them in the driveway, it'd be more convincing!

originally posted by: turbonium1

originally posted by: choos

originally posted by: turbonium1
Threatening to sue Sibrel, and threatening to kill Sibrel , was really just to get Sibrel to leave the house faster.

It makes perfect sense...


Not.

some americans wont ask, they will just get their guns..

Yes, they are called nut-jobs. They will shoot someone who is trying to leave their property, and afterwards, they explain to the police how they shot trespassers who refused to leave their property.

For some reason, nobody buys that as an excuse for blasting someone's head off, and they end up guilty of first-degree murder. Perhaps if they didn't kill them in the driveway, it'd be more convincing!

i never said shoot..

i just said "get their guns".. want to have another try?

originally posted by: onebigmonkey
a reply to: turbonium1

They are threatening him with legal action because he lied to them, accuses them of fraud and intends to make money out of the resulting footage.

They were lied to, accused of fraud, and profited from showing it on film.

You think that's why they threatened to sue him. They didn't sue him, which is quite a problem for your argument..

originally posted by: turbonium1

No, I asked YOU why Mitchell threatened to sue Sibrel.

i think its pretty obvious that im not a mind-reader.. what makes you think i know what he is thinking??

i am not the one making stories up for why he threatened to sue Sibrel.. i can only justify it..

but if you seem to think you know why he threatened to sue him than by all means go for it mr. icanreadmindsbonium1

After Mitchell first asks Sibrel to leave, he said...

"And if you continue this, and you press it, I will personally take you to court!"

oh im so glad you finally realised this.. why does it take around one minute between this first request for Sibrel to leave and the second time he asks (just before Sibrel puts on his jacket) ??

what reason does Sibrel have to stay that long because it looks like he stayed to further provoke Mitchell for a reaction..

So you "need" to explain why Mitchell would threaten Sibrel. You cannot ignore it.

to stop his libel.. he came under false pretenses got an interview using fake credentials.. so basically Sibrel, who is a known liar, can manipulate the footage however he wants saying whatever he wants..

What would Mitchell want so desperately for Sibrel to not "continue" with?

you say its desperate, but if it was desperate why didnt Mitchell sue him?? why was the footage sold?? i thought NASA had the ability to keep thousands of people and several generations quiet for over 40 years..

and yet here we have a known hoax theorists with his intentions very visible.. and his movies just slip under the radar??
yes, they sure were extremely desperate..

What other possible thing would Mitchell not want Sibrel to "continue" with?

his attempted defamation acts.. but i guess that just doesnt happen in your world since people sue over false journalism at attempts of defamation.

originally posted by: turbonium1

originally posted by: onebigmonkey
a reply to: turbonium1

They are threatening him with legal action because he lied to them, accuses them of fraud and intends to make money out of the resulting footage.

They were lied to, accused of fraud, and profited from showing it on film.

You think that's why they threatened to sue him. They didn't sue him, which is quite a problem for your argument..

you also said Mitchell was quite desperate to stop him..

so if it was desperate like you claim, why is this footage available??

they didnt sue him because he wasnt worth the trouble.. in other words, so much for your claim of him being desperate. yet again, lying.

a reply to: turbonium1

some more food for thought for you turbonium1

since you hold the idea that people getting angry when questioned proves they are lying.

how do you explain another one of your heroes, Jarrah White, losing his s*** in a certain yahoo groups forum several years ago when questioned by Jay Windley?? consistency would suggest that you are calling Jarrah and his theories all a lie also..

a reply to: turbonium1

I believe we're still waiting for you to provide proof that Sibrel paid them.

Proof they didn't go. Any time you like.

originally posted by: onebigmonkey
a reply to: turbonium1

I believe we're still waiting for you to provide proof that Sibrel paid them.

Proof they didn't go. Any time you like.

We can show proof of two Apollo astronauts, Buzz Aldrin and Ed Mitchell, assaulting someone named Bart Sibrel.

originally posted by: turbonium1

originally posted by: onebigmonkey
a reply to: turbonium1

They are threatening him with legal action because he lied to them, accuses them of fraud and intends to make money out of the resulting footage.

They were lied to, accused of fraud, and profited from showing it on film.

You think that's why they threatened to sue him. They didn't sue him, which is quite a problem for your argument..

Hey Turbo, have you ever considered the idea that the whole Bart Sibrel movie producer-taxi driver persona is staged and the whole "Astronauts Gone Wild" thing was just a plan to distract people from the fact that the world is flat, the Apollo astronauts know that, they have been payed off to stay quiet this long, and they will go to their graves defending their script?

After Sibrel, the astronauts became very cautious of speaking extemporaneously off-the-cuff. After Sibrel, the astronauts are shielded by agents and security guards.

When Neil Armstrong talked about "truth's protective layers" he might have been referring to the extra security at events that was needed to protect him from aggressive interviewers, like Bart Sibrel. But have you ever considered that Sibrel and the astronauts were on the same team? That would be something that the CIA could do quite easily. First, you have a $500,000 budget, add one desperate movie producer, mix in some random Apollo astronauts and newly "discovered" film footage, and *kaboom* the CIA has created a new Apollo Hoax Meme with Bart Sibrel starring as the chump.

A chump that gets viciously ridiculed everyday on the internet. To mock Bart Sibrel is so easy anybody can do it. That's why I think this Sibrel phenomenon could be a CIA op to get everyone to focus the attention on the violence (a condition which coined the phrase ADLV, the Apollo Defender's Lust for Violence) instead of what else is going on in his movie... I am starting to think that the whole Sibrel thing might be contrived, in the sense that they knew and were not surprised by the questions and that they were *acting* for the audience.

originally posted by: turbonium1

originally posted by: choos

originally posted by: turbonium1
Threatening to sue Sibrel, and threatening to kill Sibrel , was really just to get Sibrel to leave the house faster.

It makes perfect sense...


Not.

some americans wont ask, they will just get their guns..

Yes, they are called nut-jobs. They will shoot someone who is trying to leave their property, and afterwards, they explain to the police how they shot trespassers who refused to leave their property.

For some reason, nobody buys that as an excuse for blasting someone's head off, and they end up guilty of first-degree murder. Perhaps if they didn't kill them in the driveway, it'd be more convincing!

That story reminds me of how they got Bill Cooper.
en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: onebigmonkey
Got any proof that Aldrin or Mitchell didn't walk on the moon? Get back to me when you have.

computer models have Moon hoax theory gaining overwhelming validity, while the propagandists are trending towards zero credibility ...

originally posted by: Misinformation

a reply to: onebigmonkey
Got any proof that Aldrin or Mitchell didn't walk on the moon? Get back to me when you have.

computer models have Moon hoax theory gaining overwhelming validity, while the propagandists are trending towards zero credibility ...

And you ripping off CO2 concentration models proves what?

Stop trolling, give us some evidence.

originally posted by: Misinformation

a reply to: onebigmonkey
Got any proof that Aldrin or Mitchell didn't walk on the moon? Get back to me when you have.

computer models have Moon hoax theory gaining overwhelming validity, while the propagandists are trending towards zero credibility ...

The Apollo Defenders have a hard time coming to grips with the real historical narrative of Nixon's Apollo. Any questions?

a reply to: SayonaraJupiter

The Apollo Defenders have a hard time coming to grips with the real historical narrative of Nixon's Apollo. Any questions?

Thousands. Let's start with: can you explain what you believe the "real historical narrative" actually is, using concrete facts rather than innuendo?

a reply to: DJW001

DJW, I want those other 999 questions posted to this thread in 48 hours. It is very important that you substantiate your claim of having "thousands" of questions. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt by only asking you for another 999 questions.. which would only bring you to a mere 1,000. I am not requiring you to have multiple "thousands" just one thousand.

Your claim was "Thousands." of questions that you had. I am calling your bluff on this hand, DJW001. I'd like you to just fold this hand right now. I know that you are bluffing because you don't have another 999 questions.

originally posted by: SayonaraJupiter
a reply to: DJW001

DJW, I want those other 999 questions posted to this thread in 48 hours. It is very important that you substantiate your claim of having "thousands" of questions. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt by only asking you for another 999 questions.. which would only bring you to a mere 1,000. I am not requiring you to have multiple "thousands" just one thousand.

Your claim was "Thousands." of questions that you had. I am calling your bluff on this hand, DJW001. I'd like you to just fold this hand right now. I know that you are bluffing because you don't have another 999 questions.

Deflection and evasion only thing you know how to do isn't it? Hey that can be his second question. See what he's trying to get you to admit is your not trying to disprove Apollo because he's figured out your not. I know for a fact you've stated Apollo went to the moon but then you said they were covering up something they found. But even that you would backtrack on because you have no true uproar other than an unhealthy infatuation with Nixon being the anti Christ or something.

What he hasn't figured out is you have to keep things vague and can never comit yourself because your arguments fall apart and you know this from the last thread. Standard procedure for anyone just trying to spam a thread.

originally posted by: SayonaraJupiter
a reply to: DJW001

DJW, I want those other 999 questions posted to this thread in 48 hours. It is very important that you substantiate your claim of having "thousands" of questions. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt by only asking you for another 999 questions.. which would only bring you to a mere 1,000. I am not requiring you to have multiple "thousands" just one thousand.

Your claim was "Thousands." of questions that you had. I am calling your bluff on this hand, DJW001. I'd like you to just fold this hand right now. I know that you are bluffing because you don't have another 999 questions.

Answer the first question and I will post the second. Once you have answered 1,999 questions you will see for yourself that I am not bluffing, you are. Now answer the first question please.

a reply to: DJW001

Answer the first question and I will post the second. Once you have answered 1,999 questions you will see for yourself that I am not bluffing, you are. Now answer the first question please.

DJW, you just walked into a casino with a dollar and you want to set down at the high stakes table! You can't do that! Do you have your 2,000 questions prepared or not? Because you have a little over 24 hours to produce the goods.

Or, how about this bargain...

If you will admit that you exaggerated about the "Thousands." of questions I will take your one question and answer it to the best of my ability + you will have to promise that there will be no further questions after that one question.

Does that sound equitable to you?

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On a different note, Have you read John M Logsdon's book yet?

It's a pity that the Derpfenders are really shy about it and seem disinterested in the NEW NIXON's APOLLO NARRATIVE and it's from a very reliable source indeed. Logsdon's wikipedia page en.wikipedia.org...

Here is a link to his book publisher Palgrave with full title "After Apollo? Richard Nixon and the American Space Program"
www.palgrave.com...

When I read that book I was astounded, just blown away. It really is a game changer and one I know that you will enjoy, DJW, because it has lot's of Richard Nixon in it. It's not perfect but, to be honest, Logsdon could write a volume II out of his notes. One area I'd like to explore is the sudden outbreak, in July of 1969, of " Mars Fever " which was not completely dealt with in his book.

But it's hard to discuss the book with you people if you haven't even read it! Come on DJW I thought you were good at this game.

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