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Disclosure of the Moon Landing Hoax: Part 2

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posted on May, 19 2015 @ 01:56 AM
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is it also true that coming straight out of highschool people can then suddenly do open heart surgery??




posted on May, 19 2015 @ 05:52 AM
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originally posted by: onebigmonkey

originally posted by: Ove38
First they were behind in the race to the moon and wanted to go together with the soviets, then suddenly they picked up the moon rocks by their hands ? doesn't sound very convincing !


Suddenly?

6 years after that speech is suddenly?


Who cares about the 1962 speech ? In September 1968, USSR made a circumlunar flight and returned to Earth. That scared NASA planners, as it took them several days to figure out that it was only an automated flight, not piloted, because voice recordings were transmitted from the craft en route to the Moon.



posted on May, 19 2015 @ 05:57 AM
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Nice factoid. So what?

How long did it take for the Soviets to figure out that the Moon landings were faked.

Oh..wait. They didn't, did they.

Because....they weren't.



posted on May, 19 2015 @ 06:25 AM
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right - so the USA could figure out " in a few days " that the first soviet trans-lunar mission was unmanned ????????????

thats your position right ?

i will not even bother to ask the next question - its so freaking obvious

but please answer it



posted on May, 19 2015 @ 07:15 AM
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originally posted by: Ove38

originally posted by: onebigmonkey

originally posted by: Ove38
First they were behind in the race to the moon and wanted to go together with the soviets, then suddenly they picked up the moon rocks by their hands ? doesn't sound very convincing !


Suddenly?

6 years after that speech is suddenly?


Who cares about the 1962 speech ? In September 1968, USSR made a circumlunar flight and returned to Earth. That scared NASA planners, as it took them several days to figure out that it was only an automated flight, not piloted, because voice recordings were transmitted from the craft en route to the Moon.


You were the one who brought up Kennedy's offer as somehow significant, not me.

In the years following that speech the US continued with their development of Mercury, Gemini and Apollo. They did not 'suddenly' acquire the ability to get to the moon any more than the Soviets suddenly worked how to send a probe there and back.

NASA was in a position to change Apollo 8 into a circumlunar mission precisely because they had spent the 1960s working out how to do it.



posted on May, 19 2015 @ 08:11 AM
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originally posted by: onebigmonkey

originally posted by: Ove38
First they were behind in the race to the moon and wanted to go together with the soviets, then suddenly they picked up the moon rocks by their hands ? doesn't sound very convincing !


Suddenly?

6 years after that speech is suddenly?


6 years and more than $200 Billion (in today's money) later. If we add in 1969's budget, it's $230 Billion (FY 1969 [Fiscal Year 1969] started in october 1968).

More than $200 Billion over a six-year span is about double what NASA gets today. Plus, today's NASA has many more projects it needs to fund, while the Apollo program accounted for most of NASA's budget in the 1960s.


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posted on May, 19 2015 @ 09:34 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Ove38
Nice factoid. So what?

How long did it take for the Soviets to figure out that the Moon landings were faked.

Oh..wait. They didn't, did they.

Because....they weren't.


Unmanned like there's ? I think they knew right away in december the same year 1968, that's why they continued like nothing had happened.



posted on May, 19 2015 @ 09:41 AM
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originally posted by: onebigmonkey

originally posted by: Ove38

originally posted by: onebigmonkey

originally posted by: Ove38
First they were behind in the race to the moon and wanted to go together with the soviets, then suddenly they picked up the moon rocks by their hands ? doesn't sound very convincing !


Suddenly?

6 years after that speech is suddenly?


Who cares about the 1962 speech ? In September 1968, USSR made a circumlunar flight and returned to Earth. That scared NASA planners, as it took them several days to figure out that it was only an automated flight, not piloted, because voice recordings were transmitted from the craft en route to the Moon.


You were the one who brought up Kennedy's offer as somehow significant, not me.

In the years following that speech the US continued with their development of Mercury, Gemini and Apollo. They did not 'suddenly' acquire the ability to get to the moon any more than the Soviets suddenly worked how to send a probe there and back.

NASA was in a position to change Apollo 8 into a circumlunar mission precisely because they had spent the 1960s working out how to do it.


Nonsense, the USA hoax in december 1968 was just an answer to USSR's hoax in september 1968, there was no one onboard either spacecraft, going around the moon . JFK's november 1963 suggestion, was good, they should have cooperated.
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posted on May, 19 2015 @ 10:25 AM
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please cite the claim that the soviet trans-lunar mission was manned

hint - the soviets NEVER claimed it was manned - they just made no announcment either way

ergo : NO hoax

so stop making things up



posted on May, 19 2015 @ 11:47 AM
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You might want to check how long after that UN speech JFK was around to enter into any deals with the Soviets.

Your argument has come full circle.



posted on May, 19 2015 @ 02:57 PM
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originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: Ove38

please cite the claim that the soviet trans-lunar mission was manned

hint - the soviets NEVER claimed it was manned - they just made no announcment either way

ergo : NO hoax

so stop making things up


Voice recordings were transmitted from both Vostok 1 and Zond 5
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posted on May, 19 2015 @ 03:25 PM
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vostok 1 was a manned flight - that did not go to the moon

please cite the alledged crew roster for zond 5

the soviets never made claims that any zond had a human crew

so where is your " hoax " ?????????????????



posted on May, 19 2015 @ 04:25 PM
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please cite the alledged crew roster for zond 5


Agrionemy Horsfieldi, Piophila Casei and Tenebrio Molitor - there is some debate whether or not their place of birth was inside Russia , regardless the criteria required they be communist party members...



posted on May, 19 2015 @ 04:27 PM
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citation required



posted on May, 19 2015 @ 08:35 PM
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originally posted by: Misinformation


a reply to: ignorant_ape
please cite the alledged crew roster for zond 5


Agrionemy Horsfieldi, Piophila Casei and Tenebrio Molitor - there is some debate whether or not their place of birth was inside Russia , regardless the criteria required they be communist party members...



oh look a troll..

also, animals have no concept of human communism



posted on May, 19 2015 @ 09:03 PM
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Please go on...

In your opine, were there humans put through the belts by the Russians?

ETA: I realize you named animals but I was serious with my question. Did the Russians fry any humans and/or primates in the belts?
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posted on May, 19 2015 @ 11:45 PM
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I realize you named animals but I was serious with my question. Did the Russians fry any humans and/or primates in the belts?


Laika,, a Soviet space dog who became the first animal to orbit the Earth,, died,,but not as the Soviet government initially claimed & the true cause of the death was only recently made public 2002... so if they lied over a dog, its conceivable the russians would of taken elaborate measures to conceal particular individuals that had died ...

undoubtedly though, all the animals sent into space were rather tame in comparison too the apollo astronauts who went wild once they attained terra firma ....




posted on May, 20 2015 @ 12:00 AM
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And it was concluded pretty quickly that the Zond 5 transmissions were not from live people inside it.

www.svengrahn.pp.se...

Monitored in the UK & Germany.



posted on May, 20 2015 @ 12:11 AM
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Greetings:

Aha! The Porsche Challenge!

When I worked in-house with Jerry Wiegert in the early days at Vector, we never lost on that deal.

Actually, I made a few bucks by betting against and picking up a twenski here and there…
and given back over drinks later…lol.

Miss those magnificent days in Marina del Rey, Jet-Skiing at dusk… merely a marketing consultant nowadays...




posted on May, 20 2015 @ 01:17 AM
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originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: Ove38

vostok 1 was a manned flight - that did not go to the moon

please cite the alledged crew roster for zond 5

the soviets never made claims that any zond had a human crew

so where is your " hoax " ?????????????????


The Vostok 1 capsule was empty upon landing, no man inside.




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