Disclosure of the Moon Landing Hoax: Part 2

a reply to: Ove38

Well have you spotted SK's ERROR in this STILL from his film 2001

originally posted by: Ove38

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Ove38
You don't seem to understand the importance of success in the Apollo project, no one could die, they just had to fake it. There was no one in the Landing Module (LM)

What are you talking about test pilots risk their lives all the time. And that is exactly who Apollo picked for astronauts. Doest take a brain surgeon to figure out why.So you think they are going to spend all that money to send up empty capsules.That has to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard wow.

Do you think they would land it, with somebody on board, before test landing it ? no chance !

Test piloting was an extremely dangerous profession in the early 1960s, with many deaths occurring every year in experimental aircraft crashes. Some of those aircraft were being flown for the first time -- and with a human pilot at the controls.

It was what test pilots did, and it was the way most new aircraft were tested. The Apollo hardware (and other spacecraft before it) were basically experimental test craft, and thus the astronauts chosen to fly them came from the ranks of test pilots.

By the way, the Apollo LM was tested in space three times prior to the Apollo 11 landing (and one of those tests was unmanned): Apollo 5, which was an unmanned test in Earth orbit; Apollo 9, which was a manned test in Earth orbit; and Apollo 10, which was a manned test in lunar orbit. The LM for Apollo 10 was flown to within 8 miles above the lunar surface.

originally posted by: Helious
Not everyone who has doubts about the moon landings think that we never went to the moon. Some think only that what was presented to us was not a true and accurate account.

I have always found one thing beyond all others that assures me of this and nothing anyone says will be able to reconcile it in my head, for me, this is absolute.

In 1969 with the entire world watching, NASA was going to "live" broadcast the biggest event in human history, something that seemed impossible, the scope of which was incredibly complex and by rational standards completely untested and they were going to do it at a time when hostility between America and Russia was real and tense, at a time when the Americans had lost every other space fairing race with there cold war adversary when American confidence and opinion was waning.

Had anything that could of went wrong out of the thousands that were possible it would have meant certain death for all the astronauts involved in front of hundreds of millions of Americans and our governments most bitter foes, this would of possibly been a slow painful death for American government and the result still to this day probably can not be measured. It would have been utter chaos and the fallout from which, America may have not recovered.

Contemplating this, think, what makes more sense, sending the brave hero astronauts that America knows and loves or sending others that the public does not know while Neil, Buzz and Michael are safely on Earth filming parts in a studio so if something should happen and the astronauts that did go died, it would not be witnessed by the entire world.

I believe we went to the moon, what I don't believe is the first man to walk on it was Neil Armstrong, I don't think he or any of the others said to be on that Apollo mission were. I think it was simply far to dangerous for America to risk the stability of our entire country on the very real risk and high probability of failure. I think they sent others and I think the discrepancies in some of the video and stills is because it is a mix between real video and images and those that were done here on Earth with the crew we were told was going.

Give that man a cookie!!

a reply to: Helious

please RATIONALLY explain how the deaths of astronauts would have preciptated any of the doom porn you speculate .

hint - before answering - please read up on the apollo one fire - and let the REAL consequences of 3 deaths sink in

originally posted by: Ove38

originally posted by: AgentSmith
Amazing, there really are all kinds of special on the hoax side.
So they flew to the Moon and landed the LEM remotely from lunar orbit... because it was 'dangerous'..?

Were there two sets of astronauts then? The movie stars and the ones who flew the LEM to the Moon to land it remotely from orbit? Who was where?

Landing and take of with the LEM had never been tested, the flights were test flights, not the real missions.

That is the truth. The Apollo 8 crew flew where no monkey had ever flown before. Apollo 8 flew on a Christian holiday and the Apollo 8 crew recited from the Christian bible. It was Howard Hughes' birthday. Apollo 8, 9 and 10 was a very strong message from Richard Nixon to Soviet Russia... the Russians backed down and stayed in low earth orbit.

It is prima facie evidence that the Russian space program never sent a probe to the moon to take images of Apollo lunar landing sites... why would they?? It is a better strategy for the Russians to stay in low earth orbit and never confirm Nixon's Apollo. The Russian stratagem has paid off.

Look what NASA has done... put NO FLY ZONES around the moon because they have something to hide on the moon. What are they hiding? Nixon's Apollo
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Wake up, people.

a reply to: Ove38

Did they ever find 'Snoopy' module?

news.discovery.com...

42 years later, UK-led astronomers now hope to track down Snoopy, which is believed to still be orbiting the sun.

That is total b.s. NASA landed Snoopy by remote control on the moon at one of the other Apollo landing sites. There is absolutely no reason to let that hardware go to waste by flinging Snoopy all the way out to the Sun. Complete CIA b.s.

Maybe they set Snoopy down on Tranquility Base...

originally posted by: SayonaraJupiter


NASA landed Snoopy by remote control on the moon at one of the other Apollo landing sites. There is absolutely no reason to let that hardware go to waste by flinging Snoopy all the way out to the Sun.

Maybe they set Snoopy down on Tranquility Base...

That is total b.s.

ftfy

a reply to: onebigmonkey

How did Snoopy get around the Sun? Who ordered that mission?

a reply to: SayonaraJupiter

It is a better strategy for the Russians to stay in low earth orbit and never confirm Nixon's Apollo.

Wouldn't a better strategy be to actually go to the Moon and provide absolute proof that the Americans were never there?

a reply to: SayonaraJupiter

It's a year since I was last regularly on this thread, and you are sill banging on about "no-fly zones"?

Those ONE-METRE exclusion zones around four of the six manned landing sites are really going to hide a multitude of sins, right?

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: SayonaraJupiter

It is a better strategy for the Russians to stay in low earth orbit and never confirm Nixon's Apollo.

Wouldn't a better strategy be to actually go to the Moon and provide absolute proof that the Americans were never there?

Even if the Russians would do that, and say to the world that they can't find anything on the moon regarding the apollo stuff there.

The USA would respond with :

a) The Russians didn't search good enough.
b) The Russians stole our apollo stuff from the moon.

originally posted by: webstra

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: SayonaraJupiter

It is a better strategy for the Russians to stay in low earth orbit and never confirm Nixon's Apollo.

Wouldn't a better strategy be to actually go to the Moon and provide absolute proof that the Americans were never there?

Even if the Russians would do that, and say to the world that they can't find anything on the moon regarding the apollo stuff there.

The USA would respond with :

a) The Russians didn't search good enough.
b) The Russians stole our apollo stuff from the moon.

So it's better just to go along with the hoax, like Sayonara said?

a reply to: webstra

So basically you've invented something from an imaginary scenario and produced an imaginary response to it?

How about the Indian, Chinese and Japanese findings supporting Apollo being actually on the moon?

a reply to: SayonaraJupiter

and the evidence for your claim is ?????????????????????????

a reply to: Misinformation

and the relevence of this fact is ???????????????????????

a reply to: ignorant_ape

Appealing only towards authoritative sourcing. Allows you to only see the world through a prescribed angle. Which is your choice, albeit, historically ignorant.

a reply to: bobbypurify

err no - the bitish team have a theory on the fate of snoopy - which they are now going to test - that is science

SJ - is just pulling excrement out of his arse - that is the typical behaviour of hoax believers

a reply to: ignorant_ape

It's not a theory, they have the calculations and should be able to know exactly where it is after it burnt off all its fuel away from the CM. But they don't. And I bet "snoopy" is never found. More "controversy" and "mystery".

What do you want to bet that Snoopy isn't found in 5 years? Hell, want to make it 10? Snoopy didn't happen, imo

a reply to: Ove38

What's up Ove you are usually quick to respond so have you spotted the error in the still from 2001 below, I mean if you are going to get someone to fake something you want it done right!

Still From 2001

originally posted by: SayonaraJupiter
Look what NASA has done... put NO FLY ZONES around the moon because they have something to hide on the moon.

I assume your basis is the pdf which can be found here:
www.nasa.gov...
And what can we read here:

APOLLO 17 A3 -3 EXCLUSION ZONE – APOLLO 12, 14-16 SITES RECOMMENDATION:
A. More access should be provided to individual components/artifacts at the Apollo 12, 14-16 sites in order to allow for enhanced scientific and exploration-based assessments. The following exclusion zones have been identified by component/type:
Descent stage – 3 meters buffer distance
Lunar rover (LRV ) – 1 meter buffer distance
ALSEP experiments – 1 meter buffer distance
Sampling sites – 1 meter buffer distance
All other artifacts (flag, tools, storage bags, etc. ) – 1 meter buffer distance
No restrictions on footprints/LRV tracks outside the indentified exclusion zones.

Now where does this document talk about "NO FLY ZONES around the moon"?
How are they going to hide the descent stage if you are allowed to get close as 3 meters? (or 1 meter for most other things (rover, sampling sites etc))