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Disclosure of the Moon Landing Hoax: Part 2

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posted on May, 12 2015 @ 04:43 AM
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originally posted by: MissVocalcord
...Really; why would it be strange for some NASA people to show up at the set? Kubrick was already a leading director at that time and why wouldn't anyone interested in space (traveling) be willing to go there; Again; would you refuse it if you had the change?


These are not some "NASA people" or "boys". These are the Senior Administrator of the Apollo project George Mueller and the chief Astronaut Deke Slayton, the very top of the Apollo project (Apollo program)

A Trip to the Moon, is the key word
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posted on May, 12 2015 @ 05:13 AM
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originally posted by: Ove38
A Trip to the Moon, is the key word

Indeed, in 1965 they were already planning on going to the moon; However in your theory they were also openly thinking about faking it:

"Yes we are planning on going to the moon for real, but we still think about faking it too; see we talked about it with Kubrick"

That is your theory? Sorry, it doesn't add up...



posted on May, 12 2015 @ 06:03 AM
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a reply to: MissVocalcord

Huh? So you can't have two possible outcomes in your plans? Maybe forecast another scenario just in case one goes awry. Or maybe by then, they knew they couldn't go - making your assumptuous claim that in 1965 they were planning to go to the moon, wrong. Of course, "they" being those in know of the hoax.

Soon, kiddies, soon. A lie of this magnitude must expend a lot of energy to keep. I'm sure they're dying to let it go



posted on May, 12 2015 @ 06:14 AM
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originally posted by: MissVocalcord

originally posted by: Ove38
A Trip to the Moon, is the key word

Indeed, in 1965 they were already planning on going to the moon; However in your theory they were also openly thinking about faking it:

"Yes we are planning on going to the moon for real, but we still think about faking it too; see we talked about it with Kubrick"

That is your theory? Sorry, it doesn't add up...


That's why it all ended up being part real, part fake and we have this ongoing discussion fifty years later, about what really happened.

I don't think Apollo 11 was the real thing, I think it was only a test flight, like Apollo 9 and 10, this time to see if the Landing Module (LM) could be landed. They were not going to risk any human lives.


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posted on May, 12 2015 @ 06:49 AM
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originally posted by: bobbypurify
Huh? So you can't have two possible outcomes in your plans? Maybe forecast another scenario just in case one goes awry.

Why would you openly show you are going to fake it if it would fail?

"Yes we have real plans for going to the moon, but if it fails we just fake it; see this picture with Kubrick"



Or maybe by then, they knew they couldn't go

So in this scenario they tell two different stories at the same time in 1965: "Yes we are trying to go to the moon for real" and "Yes we are also faking it".

Sorry, it really doesn't make sense any way you look at it.



posted on May, 12 2015 @ 06:51 AM
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originally posted by: Ove38
That's why it all ended up being part real, part fake and we have this ongoing discussion fifty years later, about what really happened.

Because your theory doesn't add up? No, your theory simply doesn't make sense, it is just repeated over and over...


They were not going to risk any human lives.

They already lost lives, there is always a risk associated with certain operations.
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posted on May, 12 2015 @ 06:54 AM
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They faked the part they were not able to accomplish



posted on May, 12 2015 @ 06:56 AM
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originally posted by: MissVocalcord
They already lost lives, there is always a risk associated with certain operations.


And you think they would risk that again, never ! There was no one in the Landing Module (LM)



apollo.mem-tek.com...
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posted on May, 12 2015 @ 07:14 AM
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originally posted by: Ove38
And you think they would risk that again, never

That is a quick turn around, first you claim they wouldn't risk lives at all, then if it turns out they already did, they wouldn't do it again?

In the end if you want people to go up you have to put lives at risk; it only happened last year too:

Michael Alsbury: Experienced and respected pilot who died during a test flight for Richard Branson's 'SpaceShipTwo' vessel



posted on May, 12 2015 @ 07:18 AM
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You don't seem to understand the importance of success in the Apollo project, no one could die, they just had to fake it. There was no one in the Landing Module (LM)
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posted on May, 12 2015 @ 07:24 AM
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originally posted by: Ove38
You don't seem to understand the importance of success in the Apollo project, no one could die, they just had to fake it. There was no one in the Landing Module (LM)


What are you talking about test pilots risk their lives all the time. And that is exactly who Apollo picked for astronauts. Doest take a brain surgeon to figure out why.So you think they are going to spend all that money to send up empty capsules.That has to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard wow.



posted on May, 12 2015 @ 07:32 AM
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originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Ove38
You don't seem to understand the importance of success in the Apollo project, no one could die, they just had to fake it. There was no one in the Landing Module (LM)


What are you talking about test pilots risk their lives all the time. And that is exactly who Apollo picked for astronauts. Doest take a brain surgeon to figure out why.So you think they are going to spend all that money to send up empty capsules.That has to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard wow.


Do you think they would land it, with somebody on board, before test landing it ? no chance !
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posted on May, 12 2015 @ 07:40 AM
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and how do you test things ?

HINT : test pilots

amazingly - all 3 apollo 11 crew were test pilots


ETA :

does this mean that you accept that apollo 12 ~ 17 were manned missions ?

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posted on May, 12 2015 @ 07:44 AM
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a reply to: MissVocalcord


here is a tip - please dont expect any of the following from apollo hoax believers claims :

logic

critical thinking

honesty

internal consistency

coherence

accept this as a given and your time on these threads will be a lot less stressful



posted on May, 12 2015 @ 07:54 AM
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originally posted by: Ove38

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Ove38
You don't seem to understand the importance of success in the Apollo project, no one could die, they just had to fake it. There was no one in the Landing Module (LM)


What are you talking about test pilots risk their lives all the time. And that is exactly who Apollo picked for astronauts. Doest take a brain surgeon to figure out why.So you think they are going to spend all that money to send up empty capsules.That has to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard wow.


Do you think they would land it, with somebody on board, before test landing it ? no chance !


So... if something has never been done before it is impossible to do? Because no-one ever ran the mile in under four minutes since the invention of the stopwatch, all the modern Olympic records are fake?



posted on May, 12 2015 @ 08:24 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

Did you just compare running around a track to landing a rocket-boosted craft on a foreign body in the vacuum of space? Seems as if your side of the debate can be clearly obtuse and it's okay!



posted on May, 12 2015 @ 08:29 AM
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originally posted by: bobbypurify
a reply to: DJW001

Did you just compare running around a track to landing a rocket-boosted craft on a foreign body in the vacuum of space? Seems as if your side of the debate can be clearly obtuse and it's okay!


I got tired of comparing it to climbing a mountain. Reducto ad absurdum is reducto ad absurdum.



posted on May, 12 2015 @ 08:30 AM
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originally posted by: Ove38

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Ove38
You don't seem to understand the importance of success in the Apollo project, no one could die, they just had to fake it. There was no one in the Landing Module (LM)


What are you talking about test pilots risk their lives all the time. And that is exactly who Apollo picked for astronauts. Doest take a brain surgeon to figure out why.So you think they are going to spend all that money to send up empty capsules.That has to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard wow.


Do you think they would land it, with somebody on board, before test landing it ? no chance !


They had already landed things on the moon i guess you were unaware of this? They sent unmanned probes they landed so your point is kind of stupid. As far as apollo testing it was done here on earth where they dont have to spend alot of money launching it into space.



posted on May, 12 2015 @ 09:18 AM
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originally posted by: Ove38
You don't seem to understand the importance of success in the Apollo project,

No, first you say they weren't going to risk any lives, then when you find out they already did you change your argument. It simply shows yours don't hold ground as is shown also with the current developments of e.g. SpaceShip Two.


no one could die

Really, again you are saying Grissom, White II and Chaffee didn't die?
What about Mark Allin Is he alive still? Are all of the following Spaceship Two flights going to be unmanned?



posted on May, 12 2015 @ 09:19 AM
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a reply to: ignorant_ape
Don't worry; I have been replying (I guess that is the best way to describe it) to e.g. TheWhisper/Awe130 etc and others before




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