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originally posted by: bobbypurify
a reply to: choos
Choos - master of spin.
No, I never claimed it to be impossible. I wanted to find video of them carrying the rover and setting it down, sans tracks. Is that too much to ask?
Now, thanks for providing the unpacking of the rover video. I must have used a bad search. Still, that footage is really bad and provides no proof of that flimsy object pulled from the storage box even runs. I'd have to trust that it's the same rover as in the video.
So, with pressurized gloves they then assembled that folding table into this:
Then, proceeded to drive it like this:
And, sometimes carried it and set it into place to get a photo of it? Like this:
Then, drove up to 30mi @ 8mph on a battery powered, folding table with patio chairs.
originally posted by: bobbypurify
Or this picture:
www.aulis.com...
You can even tell it's the same terrain/landscape. Marked by the small crater in both photos and land layout. Makes one wonder...
originally posted by: bobbypurify
Photo fun:
www.angelfire.com...
Photo experts, how far away is that mountain in the background? How are these consecutive photos possible? I could see the foreground changing size like that but not a mountain that appears to be a good distance away. Maybe I'm missing something here....
[AS15-85-11487 and AS15-85-11488]
Or this picture:
www.aulis.com...
You can even tell it's the same terrain/landscape. Marked by the small crater in both photos and land layout. Makes one wonder...
originally posted by: AgentSmith
originally posted by: bobbypurify
Photo fun:
www.angelfire.com...
Photo experts, how far away is that mountain in the background? How are these consecutive photos possible? I could see the foreground changing size like that but not a mountain that appears to be a good distance away. Maybe I'm missing something here....
[AS15-85-11487 and AS15-85-11488]
Just need to overlay them to see what happened, it's an illusion caused by a slight rotation of the camera between shots.
Or this picture:
www.aulis.com...
You can even tell it's the same terrain/landscape. Marked by the small crater in both photos and land layout. Makes one wonder...
Addressed above, but I was just going to add that whoever made that graphic should have known this not only because you can see - but because the fact that there are an entire sequence of photos in-between of panoramas and moving around should have shown he moved. Why would you take the same photo from the same place again later?
Not your fault Bobby, but this is the type of thing that annoys me - whoever made that graphic knew the truth if they looked at the original set - so what's their game?
originally posted by: bobbypurify
Thanks for taking the time to put that together. I think you're half right too! My only issue with your comparison is the tire tracks don't match up, although, your mountains do! But - we need to look a little harder at that IMO. It is kind of deceiving on both ends.
I've seen Aulis make mistakes and to their credit - below the photo they actually post if it's been debunked equivocally. That's nice. The compilation is three photos, correct? They certainly could have included a photo to drive their point home, I wouldn't put that past them. I think the big point we're missing here is that the driver, in both arguments, goes right through a crater! That seems like an odd decision to expose half of the rover to such an undulation. Not necessary and could jeopardize missions. Like hopping 4 ft in the air and landing on your back? That's just plain stupid, no excuses, in the vacuum of the moon where a potential malfunction means 100% death
originally posted by: bobbypurify
Photo fun:
Or this picture:
www.aulis.com...
You can even tell it's the same terrain/landscape. Marked by the small crater in both photos and land layout. Makes one wonder...
A panoramic tripod head is a piece of photographic equipment, mounted to a tripod, which allows photographers to shoot a sequence of images around the entrance pupil of a lens that can be used to produce a panorama. The primary function of the panoramic head is to precisely set the point of rotation about the entrance pupil for a given lens and focal length, eliminating parallax error.